New MOTIF ES and MPC Rival from Roland..

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May 13, 2002
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no dice, the mpc 4000 still has a cleaner interface and 32 more midi channels and its nice to see that they came with it but roland will make it for a few years then move in to somthin else
 
May 7, 2002
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I think it is a HUGE improvement. My big thumbs down on the OG Motif (not yet but in a few months) is the ability to use the insert effect on only 1 voice in Pattern Mode... This means if you make 2 custom voices that uses two effects in chain with each other to create a lush pad you could only use one of those two voices with its insert effect.... The new unit allows 8...... The Ram is 512 now all the way from 64.....

This new unit will rip up some old stuff big time....
 
Jun 3, 2002
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I dont think you can ever replace the MPC. But from what I've read the MPC4000 is as agood as dead ie no more OS upgrades, sucks to be you if you bought one and this is true.

@NorKoastal - I was never impressed with the Motif, but this new one does seem to offer more, weither or not it delivers is another question.
 
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^^

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I dont think you can ever replace the MPC. But from what I've read the MPC4000 is as agood as dead ie no more OS upgrades, sucks to be you if you bought one and this is true.

@NorKoastal - I was never impressed with the Motif, but this new one does seem to offer more, weither or not it delivers is another question.
What did you think was missing from it...
 
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Re: ^^

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What did you think was missing from it...
Why I dont think its a bad peice of gear, some things I disliked were ( these are all of course my opinion and do not apply to everyone )

1.) The LCD, while not bad, I have a Trinity and the larger LCD does make it easy ( the touch screen too, but I also own a P2K and have no problem getting in and around to what ever I need to get to.)

2.) FX - Very limited for a workstation ( now they have greatley improved on this with the ES )

3.) Expansion - I do like there idea of adding new synth engines to the motif verses just rom chips, but then what do they do, bring out old yamaha synth engines ( DX- A1NX or how ever the letter are placed ) ????? Then the new ones are a drum card and a latin percusion card??? Doesn't add up like yamaha says it should.

4.) The sequencer - while it is good, they just go about doing some things kind of starnge to me ( also in the motif's defense I have not used it on a dailey basis, but I can get into anything farley easy, and just some things were kind of odd )

5.) Sounds - To many meat and potatoe sounds, not enoungh vairtey, and only 300 something preset's from the factory ?????( and dont give me that make your own sounds shit, cause unlike most cats I know how to program, and most of the presets in my trinity I've made or altered, but that takes time and some times I would like to start with a palette of decent sounds to begin with ) kind of plain to me. I do like the fact they do inclued a free voice editor and voice libarian with the motif though, that in itself is a very nice extra.

And the small little shit like 1 midi out, no digital out as standard, the keyboard action felt good, nice to accsess to sounds by separte catagory buttons, and 16 sepearte buttons for each midi channel in nice too.

All in all, it is a good sounding board, but I didn't feel the need to get one. The new ES does sound alot more atractive though. Im looking to upgrade soon, I'm just gonna wait a couple of more months and see how things pan out and then go from there. theres alot to chose from nowadays.