Nas says that hip hop should thank GOD for Jay-Z

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Yes, I listened to the album. It was horrible. And it was released right in the middle of the autotune madness, not in the beginning of it. So I have very hard time believing it was done "for the art". The "art" was horrible anyway
No it was at the end of the craze and he did it because he wanted to not to make money. his label didnt want him making and r&b album but he did anyway. look i'm not saying he's great or anything but dude is an artist and does what he wants and makes his entire album himself for the most part. i give him props as a musician and thats where it stops.
 
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kanye is a good rapper. im jus saying he's good cuz damn near everyone i know loves his shit. i've liked a few of his songs. less than maybe 7 joints. its the ones with the really good beats tho. but i guess thats with almost any rapper. if the beats tight then 80% of the time lots of people will like it. especially if u smoke. i thought watch the throne was annoying as hell. lots of people sucked that albums dick plenty of times. i couldnt get into it. i dnt really like any of the jams on there. it gets no play in my lincoln. id rather listen to retard rap. we need more gangster rap. good gangster rap. kinda tired of everybody flossin but its alright if they sayin funny shit. what ever happened to rappers killin and shooting mutherfuckers on every verse. that was entertaining. i miss rappers threatening me through my speakers with ak's, gloccs and 38's dogg. u feel me. i dnt have that feeling of shootin a player hater at bbq's anymore like i used to when i listened to some g tracks nawmean. westside
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Nothing real about Jay-Z or Kanye West - everything they have done in the last decade or so has been carefully weighted with the market in mind. That's not real art.
Jay uses the hip hop market. Kanye helps create it. and mainstream artists get hated on so much, but that career is harder than an underground artists. underground artist, with total creative control, do what they want, what is natural, what comes out, as far as whats on paper and on wax. a major artist on the other hand has to create what he's told. swimming upstream, if you will. and the outcome is the same as an underground artists. he will create a song that some people will suck, and some people will say sucked.

the underground has more wack rappers, per capita.
 
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He may rhyme like he is in the 80's but his word play is top notch....

On subject lyrics alone Hova is beastin on the dudes
idk breh. his word play is 80's too. rappin is about rhyme. dude needs to just write storys or some shit. spread his words with out having to rap them.

Jay-Z still on some 2nd verse shit. Casual gotta dumb his shit down to do that. Jay just gotta be in album mode.
[video=youtube;Zvi_rXBm8aw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvi_rXBm8aw[/video]
 
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He may rhyme like he is in the 80's but his word play is top notch....

On subject lyrics alone Hova is beastin on the dudes
"I ball at the mall" some of the best wordplay i've heard from him in awhile. lol, nah Jay is cool but i think West outshines him currently. overall Jay got the better track record and Nas kills them both. thats my take on them 3 lol. i own ALL Nas albums, 2 Jay albums and 1 yeezy album.
 
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808s and Heartbreaks was a actually a good album if you can accept it for what it is. Its not a hip hop album per se but we see the emotional, depressed Kanye West in 808s since he blamed himself for his moms death and breaking up with his fiance at the time. The production on that album was dope. The lyrics were aight if you can ignore the auto tune and understand who and what he is singing about.

Im a big fan of Kanyes production work. His lyricism is ok but to say he's not doing it for the art is stupid. Hip Hop is all about expressing yourself and thats exactly what he did in 808s and Heartbreaks.
 
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"Well if you think about it, 2Pac just came at me only one time, on a song called 'Against All Odds'." I cried when I heard it." - Nas

Nas is a perfect example of "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong"
 
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"Well if you think about it, 2Pac just came at me only one time, on a song called 'Against All Odds'." I cried when I heard it." - Nas

Nas is a perfect example of "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong"
Nas always says clown ass shit that contradicts himself, no big surprise
FORREAL. i never ever check out Nas interviews for that reason alone. i dont get how someone can be so poetic on the mic and just spit shit thats so educational or emotional but then in an interview he always says some dumb shit, like real dumb shit lol.
 
May 4, 2002
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Well...

I THINK YOU MUST BE CRAZY IF YOU LIKE JAY-Z,
DON'T CHANGE CLOTHES, CHANGE THE CD!

[video=youtube;ALiXBP4aFik]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALiXBP4aFik[/video]
did you really just post afroman? dude is a joke and cant speak on any of the people he talks about (well maybe some), im sorry but really? afroman.
 
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im surprised no one mentioned MBDTF in this kanye vs jay z argument...it was a fuckin masterpiece. kanye has stepped up his wordplay big time nowadays. NEVER been a jay z fan