Nas says that hip hop should thank GOD for Jay-Z

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Jul 3, 2008
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thas real tho cuz who besides jay makes good MAINSTREAM music??

dont nobody go multi platinum every year for two decades and make consistent good music
 

ThaG

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Very strange words from someone who had an album called Hip Hop Is Dead...

After all, Jay-Z played an instrumental role in the corporatization of the art form
 
Jun 24, 2006
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Very strange words from someone who had an album called Hip Hop Is Dead...

After all, Jay-Z played an instrumental role in the corporatization of the art form
No, Jay-Z took control and used those who exploited the genre to his benefit. Love him or hate him he did what no other artist has been able to do (unless you consider Diddy an artist) for an extended period of success, expand his brand to be more that just music.
 
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"We didn't graduate Harvard. We didn't graduate Princeton. Nothing against them niggas...Yeah, they niggas, too. They ignorant as fuck"

Lol.....Did he seriously say that.
 
Dec 14, 2011
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Very strange words from someone who had an album called Hip Hop Is Dead...

After all, Jay-Z played an instrumental role in the corporatization of the art form
What's that, sir? EVERY successfull mainstream rapper played an "instrumental role" in the corporatization of the art form and there were MANY successful mainstream rappers before Jay-Z came along. If you're going to blame Jay... then you should also blame, Nas, 2pac, Biggie, Wu Tang, NWA, etc...

Sir, the ONLY difference between now and then... is NOW the corporations have a complete grip over it and so gangster rap isn't even marketed to the "streets" but to white boys and girls who live in suburbs. That's why I, sir... laugh when I see these underground/bay, super gangster rappers try to emulate mainstream rap artist sound.

If anything Jay-Z, Kanye, Nas, and a handful of others are the FEW real artist left in the game who actually respect the art form aspect of it.
 

ThaG

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Nothing real about Jay-Z or Kanye West - everything they have done in the last decade or so has been carefully weighted with the market in mind. That's not real art.
 
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"We didn't graduate Harvard. We didn't graduate Princeton. Nothing against them niggas...Yeah, they niggas, too. They ignorant as fuck"

Lol.....Did he seriously say that.


He would be right... being book smart and being ignorant are not mutually exclusive. Just because their parents forced them to spend their teenage years studying their ass off to get into a name-brand university doesn't mean they know their ass from their elbow. You'll find just as many ignorant people in the halls of Harvard as you will in the halls of Queensbridge... generally speaking, both groups are unable to leave the small mental boxes they've occupied their whole lives because they've mostly only been exposed to people who look, talk, act and think exactly like them. In fact, IMO there's no two other groups of people in the country who share so much in common while being raised to believe that they share nothing in common.
 
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Nothing real about Jay-Z or Kanye West - everything they have done in the last decade or so has been carefully weighted with the market in mind. That's not real art.
not true at all. Kanye west always switches his shit up every album and does for the art.
 
Nov 7, 2006
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Really? That autotune album was "for the art"?
yeah it was. you even listen to the album? he just did it to do something different that interests him. thats what he always does as a musician. just because you dont like it or it was popular doesnt make it less than what it really was. i'm not a complete fan of Kanye, he seems like a douchebag but he keeps it real, raps about what he knows and what he lives and always does things different in his music every album before even knowing or thinking it can be popular. i guess i like maybe 50% of his shit but i still understand he's a real artist and puts in alot of blood sweat and tears to make his albums.
 
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808 & heartbreaks should be instrumental album imo, beats are hella dope, but most of the time his autotune singing sucks. autotune thing was kinda good idea, like all the beats are minimalistic and cold and adding that robotic voice could work, but it didn't. i liked kanyes autotune sining in that jeezy song tho.

good thing mike dean is in kanyes camp, he mixed that album perfectly
 

ThaG

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yeah it was. you even listen to the album? he just did it to do something different that interests him. thats what he always does as a musician. just because you dont like it or it was popular doesnt make it less than what it really was. i'm not a complete fan of Kanye, he seems like a douchebag but he keeps it real, raps about what he knows and what he lives and always does things different in his music every album before even knowing or thinking it can be popular. i guess i like maybe 50% of his shit but i still understand he's a real artist and puts in alot of blood sweat and tears to make his albums.
Yes, I listened to the album. It was horrible. And it was released right in the middle of the autotune madness, not in the beginning of it. So I have very hard time believing it was done "for the art". The "art" was horrible anyway