Napoleon (outlawz) speaking on Tupac and islam.......

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STOCKTON said:
Is this a new Trend? I see alot of people converting to Islam or being gay, wassup with that?
Because people are starting to realize that Christianity is flawed and you can pick too many holes thru it.
 
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I got the chance to chop it up with Napoleon over the phone (a few times) awhile back...


Always been good Folkz...more power to him.
 
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ParkBoyz said:
Because people are starting to realize that Christianity is flawed and you can pick too many holes thru it.
Same thing with ISLAM! I wasn't talking about people who used to be Christians converting to Islam, I see it more the other way around. I'm talking about people in general aside from Christians.

like napoleon said, christianity comes out with a new revised bible all the time to get the people confused, where the quran is untouched.
The Torah, the Old Testament Hebrew Bible was never Changed, and still in original text, the New Testament was never changed, these new revised bibles are stupid and so are you to actually think these new revises bibles should used as a criteria to excuse Christianity. True Judaism, and True Christianity/Messianism came way before Islam, and if you compare many stories and moral from Islam, to the Religion/Way of the bible, the Koran bites hella shit from it.
 
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STOCKTON said:
The Torah, the Old Testament Hebrew Bible was never Changed, and still in original text, the New Testament was never changed, these new revised bibles are stupid and so are you to actually think these new revises bibles should used as a criteria to excuse Christianity. True Judaism, and True Christianity/Messianism came way before Islam, and if you compare many stories and moral from Islam, to the Religion/Way of the bible, the Koran bites hella shit from it.
The Quran doesn't "bite" from the bible, it supports most aspects of the old testament, no one's really arguing about the validity of the Old testament, it's the New Testament that brings most of these issues to the table. Most educated Christians are familiar with the Torah(the Jewish bible), but Christianity is based mainly on teachings of the New Testiment(where Jesus comes into play).. To say that the new age Bible is older than the Quran is absured since the Quran has been untouched for over 14 centuries with the original text(in the original language) still intact.. The version of the Bible by which the majority of Christians rely was completed in 1611 by the writers of King James. They revised it to interpret it into their own meaning. Not to mention that King James was a pedofile.. What is the oldest version of the New Testiment that you can find cuz, answer me that? I'll answer for you, King James' Version of the Bible that was written in 1611, that's where. I can't accept that personally, I putting my soul in the hands of some pedofile? I have to put my faith in his interpretation of God's word? He wasn't even a prophet, so as far as Christianity goes I had to respectfully bow out of that religion. Too many contradictions in that religion.
 
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Same thing with ISLAM! I wasn't talking about people who used to be Christians converting to Islam, I see it more the other way around. I'm talking about people in general aside from Christians.

The Torah, the Old Testament Hebrew Bible was never Changed, and still in original text, the New Testament was never changed, these new revised bibles are stupid and so are you to actually think these new revises bibles should used as a criteria to excuse Christianity. True Judaism, and True Christianity/Messianism came way before Islam, and if you compare many stories and moral from Islam, to the Religion/Way of the bible, the Koran bites hella shit from it.
lol the koran dont bite nothing from christianity u dumb fuck.. do some research.. and for the record im not religious..
 
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The Quran doesn't "bite" from the bible, it supports most aspects of the old testament,
So does the New Testament which has been around 2000+ Years
no one's really arguing about the validity of the Old testament, it's the New Testament that brings most of these issues to the table. Most educated Christians are familiar with the Torah(the Jewish bible), but Christianity is based mainly on teachings of the New Testiment(where Jesus comes into play)..
Is Jesus not the promised Messiah, he was foretold to come EVEN IN THE BOOK OF Genesis, if you want me to go scripture I will.
To say that the new age Bible is older than the Quran is absured since the Quran has been untouched for over 14 centuries with the original text(in the original language) still intact..
So has the New Testament, which was Written in Greek and Latin, and there are two testimonies from the Gentiles which is Written in Greek and Latin, and the Hebrews given in accounts from the Hebrews also written in greek.
The version of the Bible by which the majority of Christians rely was completed in 1611 by the writers of King James. They revised it to interpret it into their own meaning.
Well if you use a concordance and understand the Original Text you'd understand it more, so if Jesus is in the Qu'ran and he's a prophet instead of the messiah, Son of God, and God himself in flesh, what does that tell you what Mohammad was trying to accomplish, interpret it his own way. Jews and Gentiles aka Messianic/Christian followers believe in Jesus, so do Jews who believe in Jesus are Apostate Jews/Hebrews?
What is the oldest version of the New Testiment that you can find cuz, answer me that?
Read the Whole book of David's Psalms you'll find a whole bunch of verses in Psalms in the New Testament. Can you tell my why when Islam first started, they were killing those who they considered infidels. Please don't bring up the Crusades, the Roman Catholic Church was a ROMAN ARMY not God's Followers.
I'll answer for you, King James' Version of the Bible that was written in 1611, that's where.
Translation, he never wrote the bible
I can't accept that personally, I putting my soul in the hands of some pedofile?
Who's the Pedophile?
I have to put my faith in his interpretation of God's word? He wasn't even a prophet, so as far as Christianity goes I had to respectfully bow out of that religion. Too many contradictions in that religion.
What contradictions? Well then you mind telling me? You're a perfect Example of 2nd Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
 
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STOCKTON said:
So does the New Testament which has been around 2000+ Years
Is Jesus not the promised Messiah, he was foretold to come EVEN IN THE BOOK OF Genesis, if you want me to go scripture I will.
So has the New Testament, which was Written in Greek and Latin, and there are two testimonies from the Gentiles which is Written in Greek and Latin, and the Hebrews given in accounts from the Hebrews also written in greek.
Well if you use a concordance and understand the Original Text you'd understand it more, so if Jesus is in the Qu'ran and he's a prophet instead of the messiah, Son of God, and God himself in flesh, what does that tell you what Mohammad was trying to accomplish, interpret it his own way. Jews and Gentiles aka Messianic/Christian followers believe in Jesus, so do Jews who believe in Jesus are Apostate Jews/Hebrews?
Read the Whole book of David's Psalms you'll find a whole bunch of verses in Psalms in the New Testament. Can you tell my why when Islam first started, they were killing those who they considered infidels. Please don't bring up the Crusades, the Roman Catholic Church was a ROMAN ARMY not God's Followers.
Translation, he never wrote the bible
Who's the Pedophile?
What contradictions? Well then you mind telling me? You're a perfect Example of 2nd Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
Ofcourse the New Testament has been around for over 2,000 years, but not in it's entirety. Only select verses were found in old texts such as the dead sea srolls, etc.. There's actually a lot of scripture out there that wasn't included into the Bible because it didn't fit the views of europeans at the time. The 1,000 page plus version of the Bible is a very condensed version. The New Testament was actually written in Aramaic first, then Greek, Hebrew, Latin, Arabic, English, etc.. There are 3 different versions of the story of Jesus with in the Bible and one version is totally different from the other two. A lot of verses in the New Testament were written years apart by various sources all claiming devine inspiration. I do believe Jesus was a son of God, and yes I believe he was born of immaculate conception and died for the sins of man kind, just don't believe that he should be placed on the same level as God(I'm not Muslim, just interested in the religion as of now). King James was the Pedofile if you didn't know, and that last verse can apply to Christians as well..
 
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If you're talking about the books that weren't included they were the Agnostic books. Books written 80-200 years after Jesus! That's why they were never including because it contradicted what real apostles and witnesses saw. The New Testament wasn't written in Aramaic homie, it was greek, they spoke aramaic and wrote in greek. Bet you didn't know that.

Read THIS(Click The Link), it's long, but it'll help you understand. Many Jewish transcripts, if you know, were written in greek and some in latin b
 
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STOCKTON said:
If you're talking about the books that weren't included they were the Agnostic books. Books written 80-200 years after Jesus! That's why they were never including because it contradicted what real apostles and witnesses saw. The New Testament wasn't written in Aramaic homie, it was greek, they spoke aramaic and wrote in greek. Bet you didn't know that.

Read THIS(Click The Link), it's long, but it'll help you understand. Many Jewish transcripts, if you know, were written in greek and some in latin b
I'll look into that bruh.. No use arguing/debating over religion, in all honesty I'm still confused about which path to take. Christianity to me just seems a bit tangled, but maybe I just need to do more research into these subjects..
 
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The same religion (Christianity) that was used to liberate the minds and hearts of mankind over the world, was used primarily to torture, oppress, and enslave the minds and hearts of an entire nation of African , Latin , and Native Americans here in the United States of America. In fact , the greatest religious crusade of all time was the slave trade itself.

Selective intrest and selective preference are both prejudice and racism in the purest form. Anyone who will defend christianity and not agknowledge it's flaw of mayhem and tyranny when used to build this nation is either in denial of a known and documented fact , or they have been misinformed about the legacy of christianity as it applies to people of color in america.

A great book for christians to read for more of an in-depth account of this legacy is a simple read , called "Born a Child of Freedom, Yet Still a Slave" by Norrace T. Jones.

As Muslims, we must stay on the striaght path and not let those who are either biased, misinformed or both , dervert us from the faith we have in Allah and the seal of his words in living example...the Prophet Muhammad.(S.A.W.)



Salaam,

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i ain't even been on siccness.net in a grip LOL...but here's my more than 2 cents. LOL.. Jesus is God period. i'm bout 2 go peep the dead sea scrolls on dec. 6th. they here in seattle pacific seattle center til dec. 13th. which is a huge blessing & once & a lifetime deal???!!!! everything the Holy Bible say i'm down wit. literally & sum of it is symbolic. but i take it literally for the most part. check the geneology of Jesus in the book of matthew is all divisiable by seven (7) watever seven means 2 the Lord i have no idea? LOL..if u guys wanna know wat i'm talkin bout read the book called hidden treasures by chuck missler

just one (1) Example

The first 17 verses of the Gospel of Matthew are a logical unit, or section, which deals with a single principal subject: the genealogy of Christ. It contains 72 Greek vocabulary words in these initial 17 verses. (The verse divisions are man's allocations for convenience, added in the 13th century.)

The number of words which are nouns is exactly 56, or 7 x 8.

The Greek word "the" occurs most frequently in the passage: exactly 56 times, or 7 x 8. Also, the number of different forms in which the article "the" occurs is exactly 7.

There are two main sections in the passage: verse 1-11, and 12-17. In the first main section, the number of Greek vocabulary words used is 49, or 7 x 7.

Why not 48, or 50?

Of these 49 words, the number of those beginning with a vowel is 28, or 7 x 4. The number of words beginning with a consonant is 21, or 7 x 3.

The total numbers of letters in these 49 words is 266, or 7 x 38 - exactly! The number of vowels among these 266 letters is 140, or 7 x 20. The number of consonants is 126, or 7 x 18 - exactly.

Of the 49 words, the number of words which occur more than once is 35, or 7 x 5. The number of words occurring only once is 14, or 7 x 2. The number of words which occur in only one form is exactly 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words appearing in more than one form is also 7.

The number of the 49 Greek vocabulary words which are nouns is 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words which are not nouns is 7. Of the nouns, 35 are proper names, or exactly 7 x 5. These 35 names are used 63 times, or 7 x 9. The number of male names is exactly 28, or 7 x 4. These male names occur 56 times or 7 x 8. The number which are not male names is 7.

Three women are mentioned - Tamar, Rahab, and Ruth. The number of Greek letters in these three names is 14, 7 x 2.

The number of compound nouns is 7. The number of Greek letters in these 7 nouns is 49, or 7 x 7.

Only one city is named in this passage, Babylon, which in Greek contains exactly 7 letters.

And on it goes. To get an indication of just how unique these properties are, try the example in the inset.

the bible also told bout Jesus' coming years before he came 2 earth. way too much of a trip. way (hundred yrs.) before crucifiction (spelt wrong) was even invented? THE LORD IS REAL CUTTHROAT!!! :) (& i also grew up in a buddhist family?? & my family still buddhist.) BIG UP 2 AGERMAN OF 3X KRAZY!!!
 
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TKASH said:
The same religion (Christianity) that was used to liberate the minds and hearts of mankind over the world, was used primarily to torture, oppress, and enslave the minds and hearts of an entire nation of African , Latin , and Native Americans here in the United States of America. In fact , the greatest religious crusade of all time was the slave trade itself.
Same couldn't be said in the early years of ISLAM?! If you're speaking about the Crusades, those weren't True Christians. Talk about contradiction, what kind of God promote suicide to get a point across.

Selective intrest and selective preference are both prejudice and racism in the purest form. Anyone who will defend christianity and not agknowledge it's flaw of mayhem and tyranny when used to build this nation is either in denial of a known and documented fact , or they have been misinformed about the legacy of christianity as it applies to people of color in america.
Compare the Early Christian Church to the Islamic world in it's earliest days, and come at me with that violent talk. You compare the 12 Apostles and Jesus, and the early church members to the false church, aka the Roman Catholic Church and other sects and cults that broke off. Don't associate the wrong sects as Christianity, cause obviously you don't know history.

As Muslims, we must stay on the striaght path and not let those who are either biased, misinformed or both , dervert us from the faith we have in Allah and the seal of his words in living example...the Prophet Muhammad.(S.A.W.)
I am against Zionism, but for Messianic Jews and true Hebrew reformers. I am against the American Government ways, but not the people as a whole. I am against all false teachers and/or gods that are aside from My God. But how can you compare the Quran to the bible, when the bible has existed longer than the Quran, almost 5200+ years of existence, and when did the Quran come into play?