My Kid Could Paint That

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May 9, 2002
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PreachOnBrotha said:
Compositon my ass.

You must want a federal grant to fingerpaint or something.
LOL

But yeah, anyone who says that cant slop a bunch of different colors ona canvas and call it art, obviously aint trying to hard.

The art I have on my walls are of actual, physical THINGS. A water colored house on the water, an abstract, oil painting of a DJ scratching, a brook and waterfall paiting my grandfather did when he was an art teacher back in the 70's. THAT shit is art.
 

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I dont think anybody has the right to tell someone else what is art and what is not art. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if someone else likes msudges and squiggly lines and someone else doesnt so be it. I personally think pictures of nature and houses and shit like that is boring as hell, I want to see some off the wall shit...
 
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The Undisputed Truth said:
I dont think anybody has the right to tell someone else what is art and what is not art. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if someone else likes msudges and squiggly lines and someone else doesnt so be it. I personally think pictures of nature and houses and shit like that is boring as hell, I want to see some off the wall shit...
It becomes an issue when people try and sell finger paintings for $25,000. THATS the point of this discussion.

As ive said before. If I can do it, it aint art and i aint gonna appreciate anything that I can do myself; especially when BUYING it is involved. And that goes for everything art related, not just paintings.
 
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Much of the problem I’m seeing with this discussion in this thread results from the way people in this country view art.

Too many people spend time admiring brush strokes and composition rather than taking time to understand the meaning of the artwork and the artists themselves.

Art used to be a way for people to communicate a message to those who were unable to read the written word or hear your spoken message. An artist could express themselves visually and reach far more people. That power was taken away by the rich who took art and locked it up in their huge homes and in museums and galleries the average person was never to see. People were taught that when they viewed art not to understand the artist or the artwork, but to marvel at the color or analyze the distinct brush strokes. With the advent of the internet there really isn’t an excuse for this. Art is available to everyone and people should be encouraged to understand why it was made and what the artist’s intent was.

For example does anyone in here know that abstract expressionism, like the drip paintings by Jackson Pollack, were endorsed by the U.S. government as a way to counter communist infiltration via art? In the post WWII era leftist types, including soviet artists, were pushing for realism and showing real life items, people, places with a specific meaning to move the viewer towards a set idea/feeling. The U.S. began to encourage abstract expressionist art as a freedom loving alternative. The free movement of the paint similar to the open-ness of the ideas and the market. Significantly it also encouraged people to focus on things like brush strokes and color placement rather than the artist’s intentions.

I’m not trying to say that color usage or brush strokes are unimportant or that a realistic painting if a bowl of fruit is a more valid work of art. Quite the contrary. Rather it is important to understand the artist and then attempt to understand WHY they use the color they do, WHY they move the brush like they do, WHY paint this bowl of fruit the way they did. And take than information and think about why the artist did it all and what they were trying to tell you/get you to feel when you see their art.
 

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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
It becomes an issue when people try and sell finger paintings for $25,000. THATS the point of this discussion.

As ive said before. If I can do it, it aint art and i aint gonna appreciate anything that I can do myself; especially when BUYING it is involved. And that goes for everything art related, not just paintings.
First of all do you have $25,000 to spend on one of her paitings? No? So why would it bother YOU? And actually, the point of the initial thread has to do more with abstract art AND if the girl is actually the one painting it than the price of each piece.

If you can do it yourself that means its not art to YOU, but that doesn't mean it isn't art. If we apply your retarded way of thinking to life a hamburger isn't a hamburger if you can make it, and music isn't music if you can play it. Do you see how warped and twisted that is? You sound like one of the faggoty "good ole boy" white engineers I bump into every now and then who say hip hop/rap music is not REAL music, and say turntables can't be used as musical instruments--shut the fuck up.
 
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Most abstract artists lack the discipline that fine artists apply over years and years to hone their craft. How can you compare pollack to ernst haeckel
or albrecht durer?


>When some of these new age fucks stare at a black canvas for 300 hours , or literally shit ink on a canvas on the floor (yes, this has happened), and call it art, it is a slap in the face to those who have spent countless hours refining and honing their craft.

The purpose of art is to communicate a message or feeling to others. Abstract art only serves to alienate most people who see it, since it has no purposeful direction.

Has anyone ever read about the hoax these french guys pulled where they tied a brush to a donkeys tail and had it paint some paintings, then they went around to high end gallerys and sold the paintings for thousands of dollars on the pretext that the paintings were made by a new upcoming "abstract artist". Ha ha,
 
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HERESY said:
First of all do you have $25,000 to spend on one of her paitings?
Myabe and maybe not. Why are you so concerned with what I might or might not have?

So why would it bother YOU?
Who said anything about it bothering me. I expressed my opinion, assclown.

And actually, the point of the initial thread has to do more with abstract art AND if the girl is actually the one painting it than the price of each piece.[.quote]

And then the discussion swayed into what we are discussing now.

If you can do it yourself that means its not art to YOU, but that doesn't mean it isn't art.
Who dictates what is or isnt art?

If we apply your retarded way of thinking to life a hamburger isn't a hamburger if you can make it, and music isn't music if you can play it.
Hamburges arent art. Music, is. Just cus someone can press casio keys doenst make i music.

Do you see how warped and twisted that is?
Not at all. YOU are making it that way.

You sound like one of the faggoty "good ole boy" white engineers I bump into every now and then who say hip hop/rap music is not REAL music, and say turntables can't be used as musical instruments--shut the fuck up.
Who the fuck are you? Last I checked, this is a public message board to where I and YOu can express OUR opinions. Let your personal porblem with ME be let loose and discuss accordingly. Now youre just using induendo to make your "faggoty" point of view. I appreciate DJing cus it is an ART.

Bottom line:I dont think any of that shit is art. So fuck you if you dont like my opinon.:classic:

LOL@ you thinking i give two shits what YOU think about MY opinions. Of all the poeple in here, your pompous overview on life, in my eyes, is terrible. Anyone who claims they talk to a ficticious being, has no right to tell me jack fucking squat. SO i really value NOTHING you have to say. But thanks for taking the time to throw your worhtless opinion about ME...my way.

Have a nice day.
 
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taetae said:
Most abstract artists lack the discipline that fine artists apply over years and years to hone their craft. How can you compare pollack to ernst haeckel
or albrecht durer?


>When some of these new age fucks stare at a black canvas for 300 hours , or literally shit ink on a canvas on the floor (yes, this has happened), and call it art, it is a slap in the face to those who have spent countless hours refining and honing their craft.

The purpose of art is to communicate a message or feeling to others. Abstract art only serves to alienate most people who see it, since it has no purposeful direction.

Has anyone ever read about the hoax these french guys pulled where they tied a brush to a donkeys tail and had it paint some paintings, then they went around to high end gallerys and sold the paintings for thousands of dollars on the pretext that the paintings were made by a new upcoming "abstract artist". Ha ha,


NOW THAT SHIT IS TIGHT......THATS ART........
 

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Myabe and maybe not. Why are you so concerned with what I might or might not have?
I'm not concerned which is why I followed the question with a NO. YOU are the one concerned about this entire ordeal, and your main focus is on how much money was made from each painting.

Who said anything about it bothering me. I expressed my opinion, assclown.
Oh no, it bothers you my friend. The fact that you pointed out the monetary value, coupled with your insulting words show you are bothered by it. Whats wrong? Your grand pappy didn't sell enough oil paintings to keep a roof over your moms head? I can see him now with a wad of snuff in his mouth and rusty tobacco can, "Yer son, that shit ain't art. Back in my day we had to paint REAL things. What the fuck is this colorful hippy shit?"

And then the discussion swayed into what we are discussing now.
FUCK what you are talking about, because you aren't talking about much of shit. The ONLY reason why it ventured into the realm of useless and utter bullshit is because no one wanted go there with you.

Who dictates what is or isnt art?
Thats the trillion dollar question you impotent cheese dick, yet you are teh one shouting at the top of your lungs about how it isn't art. Question: Who the fuck is jesse that we should consider what he considers art? No one, now kindly take a seat in the corner and have a super-sized mug of STFU.

Do you have a car? What if I were to say your car is not a car because it wasn't hand crafted piece by piece in a european country? You do have a watch correct? What if I were to say you actually DON'T have a watch because it isn't hand crafted?

Hamburges arent art.
Tell that to a chef who takes pride in presentation.

Music, is. Just cus someone can press casio keys doenst make i music.
It doesn't mean it is music to YOU, but that doesn't mean it isn't music to them. People believe heavy metal is 100% NOISE, does that mean it isn't music? No. People believe rap music is just boom clap and curse words. Does that mean it isn't music? No.

Not at all. YOU are making it that way.
No, YOU made it that way. If you don't like her shit, you don't like it, but on what grounds can you say it isn't art? Are you an artist? Even so, why aren't you respecting teh next persons contribution to the field? It is ok to say you don't like it, but to say it isn't art is 100% foolish, and thanks for proving your idiocy.

Who the fuck are you? Last I checked, this is a public message board to where I and YOu can express OUR opinions. Let your personal porblem with ME be let loose and discuss accordingly. Now youre just using induendo to make your "faggoty" point of view. I appreciate DJing cus it is an ART.
Who the fuck am I? Who the fuck are YOU? YOU are the one saying what one persons work is and on what grounds are you doing it? And I don't have a personal problem with you, because if I did, I would hit you on pm, let you know what the fuck was up, and ask to meet somewhere so I can stomp your teeth down your throat, and lie to the cops when they asked me what the hell happened. So, with that being said, stay in a childs place and relax. Yes, you appreciate djing because it is art to YOU, but what I am telling you is that some people do NOT view djing as art/music, and thats WRONG.

Bottom line:I dont think any of that shit is art. So fuck you if you dont like my opinon
NO, HERE is the bottom line: She is a succesful CHILD who has made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling paintings that you don't like, and her parents couldn't give a shit about what you think because you aren't a purchaser--THAT is the bottom line. :)

LOL@ you thinking i give two shits what YOU think about MY opinions.
Do you think the person making the art gives two shits about your opinion? Probably not, but there may be someone out there that does art similar to hers that may one day give a shit.

Of all the poeple in here, your pompous overview on life, in my eyes, is terrible.
Who cares? Do you think I care about you and your opinion of me? LMAO!

Anyone who claims they talk to a ficticious being, has no right to tell me jack fucking squat.
Rely on fallacies to somehow prove a point buddy. What is ficticious is the fact that gramps couldn't pay a single bill with his "masterpieces"....oops....thats REALITY, and it burns you to the core to see a child get paid from virtually nothing, while your folks dreamed and never saw anything prolific.

SO i really value NOTHING you have to say. But thanks for taking the time to throw your worhtless opinion about ME...my way.
No you value it, which is why you are explaining yourself.
 

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taetae said:
Has anyone ever read about the hoax these french guys pulled where they tied a brush to a donkeys tail and had it paint some paintings, then they went around to high end gallerys and sold the paintings for thousands of dollars on the pretext that the paintings were made by a new upcoming "abstract artist". Ha ha,
Did this really happened?

Never heard of it

I want some more info
 
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Jesse fuckin\' Rice said:
LOL

But yeah, anyone who says that cant slop a bunch of different colors ona canvas and call it art, obviously aint trying to hard.

The art I have on my walls are of actual, physical THINGS. A water colored house on the water, an abstract, oil painting of a DJ scratching, a brook and waterfall paiting my grandfather did when he was an art teacher back in the 70\'s. THAT shit is art.
I have to agree.I watched a tv show out of curiosity awhile back on what I call \" Little Kids with Crayons \" aka \" Splashing shit\" style of painting.

These people swore they could tell what mood someone was in by looking at the finger paintings. I was sittin\' there like WTF are these fools on.

Then it came to me.

Either they were high on LSD or shrooms, or they were having flash backs.

I could picture myself being enamored by the finger paintings if I was fryin\' my brains on LSD or shrooms...but sober, to me these people seem a bit loco in the cabesa.