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Mar 16, 2005
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Now this is per PFT so take it at what it's worth, but Raiders let wrong info on contract out and are now saying correct #'s?????


RAIDERS PUT OUT WRONG NUMBERS ON WALKER

On Tuesday, it was reported by Adam Schefter of NFL Network that the Raiders signed receiver Javon Walker to a six-year, $55 million deal with $16 million in guaranteed money.

The news sent shock waves through the league. With Walker's knee problems, most believed that his best chance would be to sign a one-year "prove it" deal with a big option or roster bonus due in early 2009.

On Wednesday, the Raiders began to put out the word that the numbers on Walker weren't accurate. Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times and others (including some Internet hack who'll be taking a much broader look at the Raiders organization for SportingNews.com on Friday) were told that Walker received a $6 million signing bonus, a $5 million base salary in 2008, and a $5 million base salary in 2009.

The Raiders explained that Walker's people were viewing the contract as being worth $16 million guaranteed because of the low likelihood that the team would cut him before the end of the second year of the deal, given the cap hit they'd take via the balance of the signing bonus acceleration.

As it turns out, and as we've confirmed by talking with multiple sources, the Raiders were spreading incorrect information.

The truth is that Walker received an $11 million signing bonus, and he'll get a $5 million roster bonus due in 2009, and the roster bonus is fully guaranteed against injury.

So the guarantee is $16 million, presuming that the Raiders won't decide to cut Walker because: (1) he's healthy; but (2) he's not good.

Also, Walker is scheduled to earn base salaries of $1 million in 2008, $4 million in 2009, $6 million in 2010, $8 million in 2012, $10 million in 2013, and $10 million in 2014.

As a practical matter, Walker's guarantee is actually $17 million, since it's highly unlikely that the Raiders will cut him before the start of the 2008 football season. And if the guarantee is calculated in the way that the Raiders tried to claim that the agents were trying to calculate the guarantee, the total guarantee is actually $21 million.

Why? Because it's highly unlikely that the Raiders are going to carry $9.17 million in dead money between 2009 and 2010, which is exactly what would happen if he's cut next year.

In fairness to the Raiders, they're now acknowledging privately that bad information was disseminated on Wednesday. Setting aside for now the question of whether that impairs the credibility of anything else they ever say from this point forward, we respect them for admitting that the numbers aren't what they said they were.

Besides, the Raiders need no punishment for their error, intentional or otherwise. The fact that the organization has welcomed a brand-new player by trying to understate his deal with bad information will likely trigger punishment enough once Walker comes to the same conclusion in Oakland that he reached after his time in Green Bay and Denver -- that he wants out.
















11 mil singing bounes........FUCK! I thought the initial report of 6 was crazy. How can Al continue to have people work in the orginization that can't even get this type of shit right?
 

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I am so not looking forward to this next season....I love the Raiders but DAMN!! the Organization gets worse every year....
 

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All that means is Walker has to peform. He's still not going to see all the money. We'll see what happens.
 
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what it means is they paid out the ass up front........shit they could have just traded Denver a fucking 6th or 7th round pick and had him for no money up front....11 mil???? fuuuuuuuuuck
 

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what it means is they paid out the ass up front........shit they could have just traded Denver a fucking 6th or 7th round pick and had him for no money up front....11 mil???? fuuuuuuuuuck
Come on now you know the Broncos wouldn't trade him to a rival for a 6th or 7th round pick. Why is everyone hatin' on the Raiders? When other teams pay for free agents, they call it a "good pick up" but when the Raiders do what they gotta do they get talked about for spending too much. Why the double standard?
 
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Come on now you know the Broncos wouldn't trade him to a rival for a 6th or 7th round pick. Why is everyone hatin' on the Raiders? When other teams pay for free agents, they call it a "good pick up" but when the Raiders do what they gotta do they get talked about for spending too much. Why the double standard?


11 mil for a guy who has played 1 full year in the last 3, and hasn't had a carreer year in almost 5 years..........sorry for thinking it's a waste.


well I know it is a long shot for SHnny to trade him to a rival...but really with as hurt as shanny thinks he is I think he mayhave thought about it
 

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It's a gamble that will or wont pay off. I would have did what I had to do to sign him as well because we're really thin at receiver and Javon is a number 1 receiver that will draw double teams or draw the opposing teams best corner. We signed him because we're in need. We gotta do what we gotta do. Al is doing it for the better of the team and JR.
 
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It's a gamble that will or wont pay off. I would have did what I had to do to sign him as well because we're really thin at receiver and Javon is a number 1 receiver that will draw double teams or draw the opposing teams best corner. We signed him because we're in need. We gotta do what we gotta do. Al is doing it for the better of the team and JR.
Why was it a MUST to sign him? Are the Raiders actually planning on winning the Super Bowl next year? I just don't see much good in a move like this...
 

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It's a must we sign him because he's proven he can be a number#1 pro-bowl type of receiver. We just lost Porter so we had to make this move. Plus this complements our running game... it's going to be hard to bring that 8th up in the box now that we have a weapon to deal with at receiver.

If they plan on getting to the SuperBowl or even plan on winning we have to get JR a threat at the receiving position. He's the best receiver the Raiders have had in a while. Al had to do what he had to do. Will it pay off? Let's see what happens. I am all for it if you ask me, makes our team better right?

And Niner fans have no room to talk. They paid 80 mill for Clements who was supposed to help their secondary and they ended up giving up more passing yards in 07 than they did in 06. LOL...
 
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ok wait.......he hasn't been in the pro bowl in how long???????

He is not a proven #1 anymore!

And he will not help your run game because at his state right now he can be covered man up.
 
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It's a must we sign him because he's proven he can be a number#1 pro-bowl type of receiver. We just lost Porter so we had to make this move. Plus this complements our running game... it's going to be hard to bring that 8th up in the box now that we have a weapon to deal with at receiver.

If they plan on getting to the SuperBowl or even plan on winning we have to get JR a threat at the receiving position. He's the best receiver the Raiders have had in a while. Al had to do what he had to do. Will it pay off? Let's see what happens. I am all for it if you ask me, makes our team better right?

And Niner fans have no room to talk. They paid 80 mill for Clements who was supposed to help their secondary and they ended up giving up more passing yards in 07 than they did in 06. LOL...
I don't like the move to sign Walker, even if he does perform well. What the fuck are the Raiders doing dumping so much money on a guy who's teams have given up on? Stupid, Stupid, Stupid....
 
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thats almost like me saying man I want rod smith back because he is a great wr who has won a ring played in pro bowls and proven #1

uhhh no I am glad Rod is not coming back he is too hurt and cant help in any way.
 

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Well if we didn't sign Walker would you feel comfortable going into the season with the receiving core we have now?

Javon Walker is deep and he's to prove himself. He's here to make our qb and squad better. I think we should welcome him with open arms.
 

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Tony stop being such a homer, even lamberto sees wassup

and btw its 64 mil u retard, not 80, Clements did his job, and was very very effective
 

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thats almost like me saying man I want rod smith back because he is a great wr who has won a ring played in pro bowls and proven #1

uhhh no I am glad Rod is not coming back he is too hurt and cant help in any way.
What's the age difference between Rod Smith and Javon Walker?
 
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Well if we didn't sign Walker would you feel comfortable going into the season with the receiving core we have now?

Javon Walker is deep and he's to prove himself. He's here to make our qb and squad better. I think we should welcome him with open arms.
Would I feel comfortable?? In terms of being a great team with potential to win the Super Bowl, I don't feel comfortable w/ or w/out Walker. It makes hardly a difference in terms of making the team more competitive because both sides of the line are still shitty, especially offensive line. However, speaking in terms of losing money that could have gone elsewhere, it does make a huge difference to sign him.