Monism Vs. Dualism beliefs

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Monism-Basically there is no good and evil. Instead of there being a good and bad, it's pretty much one thing. You're in the grey spot rather than the white or black.
Dualism-Good and Evil, Good Deeds Bad Deeds. God and the Devil

Dualism-Christianity most Abrahamic and Monotheistic Religions and a few Polytheistic religions as well

Monism-Buddhists, Confucians, Taoists, those that teach you are responsible for your own doing, and there is nothing that temps you to do evil just yourself.
 
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Cockton we actually agree that Christianity is a dualism belief? wowzers!!!!!

most people in my class are claiming it to be monistic. I was like NO WAY!!!!
I'm sorry, I have no idea what monism is.

Is that a jamaican religion or something? LOL!
Monism: the view that there is only one kind of ultimate substance, that God and Nature is one organic whole with no independent parts. Everything is divine and fully participates in divinity.

Dualism: the view that ultimate reality consists of two irreducible elementry substances, that God and Nature are two seperate realities, one Creator the other created.

Religious systems are often products of fundamental a priori assumptions. Eastern religions tend to be monistic, whereas western religions tend to be dualistic.
^^^from my the professor himself.

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The Red Sin said:
Monism-Basically there is no good and evil. Instead of there being a good and bad, it's pretty much one thing. You're in the grey spot rather than the white or black.
Dualism-Good and Evil, Good Deeds Bad Deeds. God and the Devil

Dualism-Christianity most Abrahamic and Monotheistic Religions and a few Polytheistic religions as well

Monism-Buddhists, Confucians, Taoists, those that teach you are responsible for your own doing, and there is nothing that temps you to do evil just yourself.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up.
 
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Monism: Salvation by understanding that all is the Self (God). Taoism, Spinoza, Cabalism, Sufism, Idealism, Christian Science, Gnosticism, Gnostic Christian, Vedanta, Shetaut Neter, Buddhism

Dualism

Similar to Deism, Dualism is the belief that all things in nature are separate and real, and that they exist independently from any underlying essence or support. It is the belief in the pairs of opposites wherein everything has a polar counterpart. For ecample: male - female, here - there, hot - cold, etc. While these elements seem real and abiding to the human mind, mystical philosophers throughout history have been claiming that this is only an outer expression of the underlying essence from which they originate. In reality, the underlying essence of all things is non-dual and all-encompassing. It is the substratum of all that exists. Modern science has been confirming this view of matter. THe latest experiments in quantum physics show that all matter is composed of energy. Most importantly for this study, dualism is a state of mind that occurs at an immature level of mental understanding of reality. It is akin to egoism and egoistic tendencies which tend to make a person see himself/herself as separate and distinct from the world and from other living beings. Through the study and practice of mystical spiritual teachings, dualism is replaced with non-dualism and salvation, spiritual enlightenment, then occurs. Therefore, salvation or resurrection is related to a non-dualistic view of existence and bondage and death are related to dualism and egoism.

A dualistic view of life can lead to agitation, suffering and even catastophic events in human experience because the mind is trained to see either good or evil, acceptable or unacceptable, you or me, etc., and not the whole of creation composed of many parts. In the dualistic state of mind, the attitudes of separation and exclusivism are exaggerated. These render the mind agitated. Mental agitation prevents the mind from achieving greater insights into the depths of spiritual teachings. Thus, agitated people are usually frustrated and unable to discover inner peace and spiritual fulfillment.

When societal institutions such as the church rationalize and even sanction dualism, then egoistic sentiments hold sway over the heart of human beings. In this sense, dualism and egoism go hand in hand. When universal love and humility are replaced by egoism and arrogance, then it becomes possible to hurt others and to hurt nature. When we forget our common origin and destiny, we easily fall into the vast pit of egoism. We see ourselves as an individual in a world of individuals, fighting a battle of survival for wealth in order to gain pleasures of the senses, rather than seeing ourselves as divine beings who are made in the same image, with the same frailties and potential. This degraded condition opens the doors to the deep-rooted fears and sense of inadequacy which translate into anger, resentment, hatred, greed and all negative tendencies in the human personality. THe concept of dualism is the basis of the atrocities and injustices that have been committed in the hitory of the world. Under its control, human beings seed to control others and nature, and to satisfy their inner urges through violence because they cannot control themselves and express their deeper needs in constructive ways. In the Indian Vedantic tradition, duality or dvaita is seen as the greatest error of the human mind. For this reason all of the disciplines of Vedanta, Shetaut Neter, Yoga, Buddhism, Taoism and other forms of creation-centered spirituality are directed toward developing a correct understanding of human existence. When the underlying unity behind the duality is dicovered, there can be no violence or ill will against others. This is the basis of non-violence. Harmony and spiritual enlightenment then arise spontaneously. Egoism now gives way to universal love and peace.

From "The Mystical Journey From Jesus to Christ" the origins, history and secret teachings of mystical christianity

Dr. Muata Abhaya Ashby
 
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JLMACN said:
Cockton we actually agree that Christianity is a dualism belief? wowzers!!!!!

most people in my class are claiming it to be monistic. I was like NO WAY!!!!
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I was arguing with my bro (Christian) about this the other day, he insisted that Christianity wasn't dualistic.
 
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Modern AChristianity is dualistic because it separates people. You are either "saved" or you are going to hell. It's focused on "us" and "them". God - Devil, Good - Bad, Moral - Amoral, THose who've accepted Jesus Christ as the son of God and their saviour - THose who haven't. I think that is one of the primary problems with the perverted version of Christianity that we know today.

Of course, you can point to all the scriptures that contradict this assertion, but I think if we look at it realistically, Christianity today on a wide scale fosters dualism more than it does monism. I think some Christians would deny the fact that Christianity is dualistic, just as they are liable to deny the fact that a major element of christianity is fear, because it's not really something to be proud of in a quest for spiritual maturity.