Mike Vick and Pat White

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Rich

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We'll see what happens when the season ends...VY gets the job done and doesn't need to pass 60 times like Peyton Manning every game to put up good stats...
Foster ran all over the Colts and points early, so the Colts had to play in catch up mode with not that much time left.
 
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Mike Vick ran into the back of linemen on a 4th and 1 on a drive that coulda won them the game...it summarized Vicks whole career in that 1 play...he has a lot of talent but you need a qb that will throw in that situation to win at the highest level
that's idiotic man. That was a horrible call by the coaches, not mike vick. Watch play again, vick had no where to go the line fell apart. They should have ran a bootleg or something and give vick space and the option to make a play using his feet or passing the ball. Terrible call by the coaches.
 
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Peyton Manning still throws too much and thats why the colts running game never gets a chance to develop...Manning throws at least 40 passes a game, but he is better than most QB's for sure...

Then again, I doubt Colts even want to try to develop a running game, they didn't even draft a RB this year..
 
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Peyton Manning still throws too much and thats why the colts running game never gets a chance to develop...Manning throws at least 40 passes a game, but he is better than most QB's for sure...

Then again, I doubt Colts even want to try to develop a running game, they didn't even draft a RB this year..
thats true, I mean edge pretty much sucks and addai's first 2 years were awful.
 
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Peyton Manning still throws too much and thats why the colts running game never gets a chance to develop...Manning throws at least 40 passes a game, but he is better than most QB's for sure...

Then again, I doubt Colts even want to try to develop a running game, they didn't even draft a RB this year..
because they have PEYTON MANNING. Dudes a beast. Foster was just too much for the colts but manning throwing for 430 yards and 3tds? come on now. Addai still has a lil bit left in him and Donald brown just needs to work on his protection skills
 
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because they have PEYTON MANNING. Dudes a beast. Foster was just too much for the colts but manning throwing for 430 yards and 3tds? come on now. Addai still has a lil bit left in him and Donald brown just needs to work on his protection skills
But what if Peyton Manning gets injured or you go up against a tough secondary? You need a backup plan and developing a running game would be that..Peyton Manning can't carry the whole team by himself, although I think players like Steven Jackson (Rams) prove you can...One of the worst O-Lines and QB's I ever seen on that team and he still gets a ton of rushing yards...
 
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But what if Peyton Manning gets injured or you go up against a tough secondary? You need a backup plan and developing a running game would be that..Peyton Manning can't carry the whole team by himself, although I think players like Steven Jackson (Rams) prove you can...One of the worst O-Lines and QB's I ever seen on that team and he still gets a ton of rushing yards...
and how has that been working out for them record wise compared to colts?
 
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if mike vicks own FAMLY didnt snitch on him n fuck him off he'd have a super bowl ring by now n this convo wuldnt even b happening.

dude was payen all them people's bills...n they jew him. Someone shulda took the wrap for him.

when he was on the falcons he was makin the playoffs,dominating with his legs making people plan specifically for him. His arm wasnt perfect...but it was improving.
 
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if mike vicks own FAMLY didnt snitch on him n fuck him off he'd have a super bowl ring by now n this convo wuldnt even b happening.

dude was payen all them people's bills...n they jew him. Someone shulda took the wrap for him.

when he was on the falcons he was makin the playoffs,dominating with his legs making people plan specifically for him. His arm wasnt perfect...but it was improving.
wouldnt he have had to MAKE a super bowl first, before he could win one?
 
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he was on his way there...he was beating people in the playoffs with warrick dunn as his hb..

pull a player in his prime out the league put him in jail for a few years u dont expect him to b 100 in a year?
 
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he has 2 playoff wins as a starting QB in Atlanta. I wouldnt call that running roughshed through the league. and do you really think his team was better then that years Bucs and Patriots teams you are smoking something fierce
 
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not sayen that at all

if vick never left the league and kept growing as a player, he'd b in his prime rite now and have a falcons team built around his talents.

if u dont think that wuld b an elite team put the sherm stick down
 
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not sayen that at all

if vick never left the league and kept growing as a player, he'd b in his prime rite now and have a falcons team built around his talents.

if u dont think that wuld b an elite team put the sherm stick down
 

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not sayen that at all

if vick never left the league and kept growing as a player, he'd b in his prime rite now and have a falcons team built around his talents.

if u dont think that wuld b an elite team put the sherm stick down
only thing that would be elite about that team would be their running game.

vick would still be an average passer, and their defense wasn't anything special.
 
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whether or not Vick would have won a superbowl with Atlanta is irrelevant and really, who cares if he didn't? There are a ton of good, even great QB's that never win superbowls. It's a team game.

Anyways, point is, Vick gives them the best chance at winning right now.
 

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I don't care if Vick would have won a Super Bowl or not. I don't really even care if he was a good passer. I feel blessed to have watched him play in his prime. He's one of the best athletes to ever step foot on the field, hands down. Doesn't make him the best QB, or even a good QB, but he was fucking FUN to watch. I felt that again on Sunday.

Plus he was the greatest QB in video gaming history.
 

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vick never had a nfl caliber squad. its amazing how his completion pct jumps when he has receivers who can actually catch. atlanta surrounded him with jv talent. crump is the only weapon he had. dunn was tiny roddy was lazy jenkins was a scrub the oline was fined for going over 295 pounds it was a disaster waiting to happen. top that sundae off with greg knapps qb killing play calling then you have a complete waste of talent. hes not the most accurate qb in the league but hes not near as bad as people make him out to be and he more than makes up for that with his abilities to make shit happen. vick will be playing a bigger role this year. its nice to see him on a team with talent on offense.
 

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and KOBB....I think you mean Kolb is much better suited for that team than Vick. Noone hurt Vicks chances but him. is Vick good yes, is he the saviour of any team no. he had his chances and showed he couldnt get it done year after year, and now he's older. sorry bad bad post here.
lmao couldnt get it done? try greg knapp out as your offensive coordinator. ask the raiders niners and seahawks how that worked out for them. run up the middle, run up the middle, pass EVERY DAMN POSSESSION. worst oc in league history. he made every team he "coordinated" worse. the niners regressed, the falcons regressed, the seahawks never progressed with him and neither did the raiders. one common theme on all his teams was bad passsing offense.

everyone said the league figured out mike vick. no they didnt. they figured out greg knapp. like i said ask a fan of any of the teams unfortunate enough to have to play underneath him.