why even live according to society if your life quality is decided on arbitrarily? might as well act like barbarians and burn, loot, steal, because any day the gov. could say we're cutting wages, jobs, etc., deal with it it's your fault. There's a social pact or should be one that's beholden to its members if they carry out their responsibility, if there isn't there is no reason for people to respect society or it's rules.
Meanwhile in Greece...
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Lol some of you are lost and have no idea what average folks go through. A rapper speaking against protesting???? a sign of the times. Fools need to stop brown nosing the wealthy in hopes of getting a piece of pie. These fuckers are richer than they ever been, the faggots that got bailed out by taxpayer money work with this presidents administration. Do your own research and see for yourselves.
Yea of course but if the same shit (minimum wage being cut) happened here your saying its the peoples fault? Cuz that seems to be what you saying about greece, sure U.S and Greece are different but we all humans and most people live in a capitalist society. Im sure minimum wage over there isnt high and with cuts it just made life a living hell for young people.
So they have to appreciate LESS than MINIMUM? Im speechless. Who the fuck takes MINIMUM wage for granted????
Rasan posted it in this very thread, thus i thought we were referring to that as evidence.
What does Greece have to do with every day, normal people like you and me? The government receives the aide, not joe scmoe.
Rasan posted it in this very thread, thus i thought we were referring to that as evidence.
What does Greece have to do with every day, normal people like you and me? The government receives the aide, not joe scmoe.
*i said nothing about appreciation. im just sayin they had the government take care of them for so long and expecting all those social services when they cant afford it then they want to bitch bitch bitch about the upper class.
*the government recieves the aid then distributes it through out the country to fuel the social services. so if there is infact a foreginer in Greece by the name of Joe Schmoe, he would most likely touch those services.
*the government recieves the aid then distributes it through out the country to fuel the social services. so if there is infact a foreginer in Greece by the name of Joe Schmoe, he would most likely touch those services.
Germany has been living off Greek and the worlds welfare since WW2. The bailouts Germany got from the Greeks were on far better terms.
This Austerity deal targets the low income workers. The private sector can set a new minimum wage and fire, at most 2% of it's workers per month. How the fuck is that fair?
I asked Greeks living there what will the rich sacrifice? They answered, The poor.
This Austerity deal targets the low income workers. The private sector can set a new minimum wage and fire, at most 2% of it's workers per month. How the fuck is that fair?
I asked Greeks living there what will the rich sacrifice? They answered, The poor.
Not trying to get in the mix of people conversation but the "who cares?" attitude doesn't work in this case.
Greece is about to default for the second time.
That's a huge deal and it will have a serious global effect. The entire US stock market took a sharp turn in second half of 2011, and barely began to recover from December and had a great January. Investors are sidelined and trade volume is extremely low right now. Positive news out of Greece and stocks soar. Europe says one thing considered negative and stocks take a beating. All eyes are on Europe and Greece right now.
If Greek defaults, they have the risk of being the first country to be kicked out of the Euro. The original pact was so tight that there is no plan for reversal. For them to revert back to their old currency would render their money almost useless and no one would want it. Let alone their banks would close/nationalize, government aid would stop (no money) and the entire world would lose faith in the Euro currency. An effect on Europe would have a global effect.
Italy and Portugal are also in a lot of trouble as well.
The US claims to be decoupled right now, but the stock market tells a different story.
Greece bond holders already agreed to a 70% loss on their investments. The proposed agreement for the bailout is over 60 pages. Minimum wage cuts are just a piece of it.
Greece is about to default for the second time.
That's a huge deal and it will have a serious global effect. The entire US stock market took a sharp turn in second half of 2011, and barely began to recover from December and had a great January. Investors are sidelined and trade volume is extremely low right now. Positive news out of Greece and stocks soar. Europe says one thing considered negative and stocks take a beating. All eyes are on Europe and Greece right now.
If Greek defaults, they have the risk of being the first country to be kicked out of the Euro. The original pact was so tight that there is no plan for reversal. For them to revert back to their old currency would render their money almost useless and no one would want it. Let alone their banks would close/nationalize, government aid would stop (no money) and the entire world would lose faith in the Euro currency. An effect on Europe would have a global effect.
Italy and Portugal are also in a lot of trouble as well.
The US claims to be decoupled right now, but the stock market tells a different story.
Greece bond holders already agreed to a 70% loss on their investments. The proposed agreement for the bailout is over 60 pages. Minimum wage cuts are just a piece of it.
Of course it's relevant! After WW2 Germany was the worlds largest debtor. The German economy was successful because it was helped on a global scale, the Greeks being part of it.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_German_External_Debts
I'm sure the Greeks didn't put these people in power to deliberately be corrupt and rape the economy. This is the fault of the government, not the people.
Care to give examples?
Without workers, who will make the country run? I doubt the Greeks will outsource public sector jobs while tens of thousands are broke and homeless.
The poor pay taxes too lol
Yes, your comparison is correct. However, in times like these when you have so many peoples future at stake, there needs to be a well balanced plan to protect ALL of Greece.
This plan is not.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_German_External_Debts
I'm sure the Greeks didn't put these people in power to deliberately be corrupt and rape the economy. This is the fault of the government, not the people.
Care to give examples?
Without workers, who will make the country run? I doubt the Greeks will outsource public sector jobs while tens of thousands are broke and homeless.
The poor pay taxes too lol
Yes, your comparison is correct. However, in times like these when you have so many peoples future at stake, there needs to be a well balanced plan to protect ALL of Greece.
This plan is not.
WE ALL KNOW THE COMMON INDIVIDUAL DIDNT FUCK OFF ANY BAILOUTS OR MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON HOW IT WAS SPENT...
THE RULING CLASS ARE THE ONE'S IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO CALL ALL THE SHOTS.
AND ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE PAYING...BUT AS ALWAYS THE LOWER CLASS CARRY THE WEALTHY ON THEIR BACKS AND HAVE TO SACRIFICE THE MOST FOR THE FUCK UPS
THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME...AND ALL THROUGH OUT HISTORY.
SOME OF YOU ARE RIDICULOUS IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S ANY DIFFERENT.
THE RULING CLASS ARE THE ONE'S IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO CALL ALL THE SHOTS.
AND ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE PAYING...BUT AS ALWAYS THE LOWER CLASS CARRY THE WEALTHY ON THEIR BACKS AND HAVE TO SACRIFICE THE MOST FOR THE FUCK UPS
THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME...AND ALL THROUGH OUT HISTORY.
SOME OF YOU ARE RIDICULOUS IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S ANY DIFFERENT.