Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, will it happen?

[2-0-Sixx]

Did Jones fight Hopkins when it mattered? No. How can you tell? Shit for one it was years later AND it was on an undercard. You think Pac and Floyd are fighting on anyones undercard? Good luck.

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Years later they fought on an undercard? You don't even know what in the world you're talking about man. You're clearly out of your realm here talking about shit you have no knowledge about. If there's one thing I know it's Hopkins career, you are all over the place talking nonsense to prove a point that isn't even correct.

 

[HERESY]

Years later they fought on an undercard? You don't even know what in the world you're talking about man. You're clearly out of your realm here talking about shit you have no knowledge about. If there's one thing I know it's Hopkins career, you are all over the place talking nonsense to prove a point that isn't even correct.

No, that was a typo (because they were on the Bowe undercard, my bad.). The point is YOU are defending Jones who has NO ROOM to talk about Floyd when the hypocrite Hopkins called him out, was willing to move up TWO fuckin weight classes and wanted 50-50. Stop defending him, bro.

 

[HERESY]

Lol damn you're reaching bringing up Bradley! Bradley won the decision via robbery, there was controversy. Obviously in 1993 there was no controversy, Jones won clearly and there was zero talk of a rematch. None.

People said it man. People are always goign to say it. Shit they were saying it when he fought the first guy after he won the belt.

Bro, who cares about their talk when they were in their 40s. You were saying why Jones never rematched him immediately, I explained why.

No, it was more of why didn't he rematch him when it MATTERED.

In 2001 Jones offered Hopkins a 60/40 split, Hopkins said he would only move UP TWO WEIGHT CLASSES for 50/50. Again, they weren't in the same weight class. Not untill Hopkins was in his 40s.

Will you stop defending Jones? Bro, are you that biased against Floyd that you will defend a guy who has NO REASON to talk? Hopkins was willing to move up 2 fuckin weight classes to fight and all he wanted was 50-50. And he couldn't make it because he already beat him once years ago? And then he was talkin shit when the hypocrite Bhop lost to Calzaghe, I gave you the quote, and look what happened after he fought.

So forget if they fought right after. Forget if they fought on whoevers undercard or if they had their own card. The question is, did he rematch when it MATTERED and if so, why not? I don't want to hear that because Jones was two weight classes above EXCUSE when you have Bhop OPENLY telling Jones he will move up and they can do a catchweight, but he needs 50-50.

Stop defending Jones. He has NO ROOM to talk about Floyd.

You got me missing this fight man leave me alone.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

No, that was a typo (because they were on the Bowe undercard, my bad.). The point is YOU are defending Jones who has NO ROOM to talk about Floyd when the hypocrite Hopkins called him out, was willing to move up TWO fuckin weight classes and wanted 50-50. Stop defending him, bro.

God damn man you're being stubborn as fuck. 60/40 was a legit offer from Jones (something Mayweather isn't offering to Pacquiao and again Pac and May are in the same fucking weight class). Hopkins didn't feel he needed to go up two weight classes for that offer and it was done, it was just as much on Hopkins as it was Jones. The problem was a two weight class separation between the two.

 

[HERESY]

God damn man you're being stubborn as fuck. 60/40 was a legit offer from Jones (something Mayweather isn't offering to Pacquiao and again Pac and May are in the same fucking weight class). Hopkins didn't feel he needed to go up two weight classes for that offer and it was done, it was just as much on Hopkins as it was Jones. The problem was a two weight class separation between the two.

Bro, I CANNOT believe you are defending Jones.

The guy is jumping two weight classes. You can't give him 50-50? Bro, you would go against your fav fighter in order to defend someone who is bashing Floyd? I can't believe it man.

Bro, Jones is trying to DISCREDIT Floyd. Floyd's career does NOT hinge on Manny's. If they fought before, and Floyd won, it wouldn't be over for his career and for Jones to let that stupid shit fly out of his mouth just shows where his head is at. Stop defending him bro.

 

[HERESY]

But you like that KO by Stevenson, huh?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

So forget if they fought right after. Forget if they fought on whoevers undercard or if they had their own card. The question is, did he rematch when it MATTERED and if so, why not? I don't want to hear that because Jones was two weight classes above EXCUSE when you have Bhop OPENLY telling Jones he will move up and they can do a catchweight, but he needs 50-50.

Stop defending Jones. He has NO ROOM to talk about Floyd.

This is what you aren't comprehending. THEY WERE TWO WEIGHT CLASSES APART. Pac and Floyd have been in the same damn weight class for years. 60/40 was a legit offer from Jones because he was pound 4 pound #1 in the sport and the bigger draw. Hopkins didn't feel that was worth it to move up two weight classes and they both went there separate ways (Jones moved up to Heavyweight while Hopkins stayed at 160). This isn't even about defending Jones or anything Floyd related at this point, this is me simply stating what the fuck happened. You seem to twist it as if it's some how similar to Mayweather vs Pacquiao, which it isn't. There was never no $100 million dollar pot for Hopkins vs Jones. At best each of them would have got about $3-$5 million. Neither Hopkins nor Jones were big PPV draws. If there was that kind of money on the table, I'm damn sure they would have figured out away. Instead, Hopkins wasn't going to take a few million to move up two weight classes and Roy Jones certainly had too much of an ego to accept 50/50 since he was p4p #1. Now if they were in the SAME weight class, for years at the top fighting side by side collecting belts in the same division, then it would be comparable. Difference is Jones moved up to 175 by 1996. Hopkins didn't move up to 175 until 2006. That's an entire decade.

You got me missing this fight man leave me alone.

Is Stevenson fighting a guy with a pulse?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Bro, I CANNOT believe you are defending Jones.

The guy is jumping two weight classes. You can't give him 50-50? Bro, you would go against your fav fighter in order to defend someone who is bashing Floyd? I can't believe it man.

You know how boxing works the bigger draw gets the bigger pot. Is that the way it should be? Nope. That's the way it always has been and you know that. My point isn't even about the purse, my point is they were seperated by two fucking weight classes. It's not nearly the same as Pac vs Floyd who have been in the same weight class, at the top, for years. $100,000,000+ purse on the table. Not even remotely comparable to Hopkins-Jones.

Bro, Jones is trying to DISCREDIT Floyd. Floyd's career does NOT hinge on Manny's. If they fought before, and Floyd won, it wouldn't be over for his career and for Jones to let that stupid shit fly out of his mouth just shows where his head is at. Stop defending him bro.

Did I say Floyd's career hinges on a Pacquiao fight? Lol wtf man if you go back look at what I responded to. That's the ONLY thing I'm talking about but as usual you take things in all sorts of directions. No point.

This is what you said: the question is why didn't he face Hopkins in a rematch before he moved up?

I explained why. Now you're taking it all over the map, you keep moving the goal post. I answered your original question and you keep fucking going and going and going. The question you asked has been thoroughly explained but you keep making this into something it's not. I never co-signed everything Jones said, I simply answered YOUR question.

 

[HERESY]

This is what you aren't comprehending. THEY WERE TWO WEIGHT CLASSES APART.

So give the man 50-50!!!!! Why are you not comprehending that?

Pac and Floyd have been in the same damn weight class for years. 60/40 was a legit offer from Jones because he was pound 4 pound #1 in the sport and the bigger draw. Hopkins didn't feel that was worth it to move up two weight classes and they both went there separate ways (Jones moved up to Heavyweight while Hopkins stayed at 160).

You go 60/40 for a guy moving up two weight classes? It's two fuckin weight classes, not one. You can't come with no 60-40 shit on that man.

This isn't even about defending Jones or anything Floyd related at this point, this is me simply stating what the fuck happened. You seem to twist it as if it's some how similar to Mayweather vs Pacquiao, which it isn't.

It's very similar. Jones' whole thing is bashing Floyd and saying if they did fight earlier, and Floyd beat him, Floyd wouldn't have anything else because no one would watch his fights because he is BORING.

There was never no $100 million dollar pot for Hopkins vs Jones. At best each of them would have got about $3-$5 million. Neither Hopkins nor Jones were big PPV draws. If there was that kind of money on the table, I'm damn sure they would have figured out away. Instead, Hopkins wasn't going to take a few million to move up two weight classes and Roy Jones certainly had too much of an ego to accept 50/50 since he was p4p #1. Now if they were in the SAME weight class, for years at the top fighting side by side collecting belts in the same division, then it would be comparable. Difference is Jones moved up to 175 by 1996. Hopkins didn't move up to 175 until 2006. That's an entire decade.

Let me make this easy for you: JONES DID NOT FIGHT HOPKINS WHEN IT MATTERED. FLOYD DID NOT HAVE TO FIGHT MANNY BACK THEN BECAUSE THE SAME INTEREST THEN IS STILL HERE. Nothing more needs to be said except for stop defending Hopkins.

Is Stevenson fighting a guy with a pulse?

The guy no longer has a pulse, so no.

The commentators are saying it will be candidate for KO of the year. I don't think so, though.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Like I said above, you asked a simple question, I answered it. That's all there was to it as far as I was concerned but you keep making this into a debate that it never was in the first place. Why didn't Jones rematch Hopkins immediately? I answered.


" FLOYD DID NOT HAVE TO FIGHT MANNY BACK THEN BECAUSE THE SAME INTEREST THEN IS STILL HERE."

Absolutely no clue why you would say this. There is still lots of interest. The same? That remains to be seen. Pacquiao has also been KO'd by Marquez and showed a lot of decline over the past two years. Beating Pac now isn't as impressive as it would have been back then.

 

[HERESY]

You know how boxing works the bigger draw gets the bigger pot. Is that the way it should be? Nope. That's the way it always has been and you know that. My point isn't even about the purse, my point is they were seperated by two fucking weight classes. It's not nearly the same as Pac vs Floyd who have been in the same weight class, at the top, for years. $100,000,000+ purse on the table. Not even remotely comparable to Hopkins-Jones.

I'm saying Jones should have went with 50-50. The guy is jumping up TWO weight classes to fight. Shit he outweighed Hopkins by what 15 or 20 lbs on the night of the rematch? Why are you telling me about Floyd and Pac being in the same weight class? Bottom line is Jones did not take the 50-50 when BHOP was WILLING to move up. And when was all of this going down? WHEN IT MATTERED! That is the point of all of this. Jones is saying that if Floyd had fought Pac then Floyd would be nothing now because he is boring and that is not the case.

Did I say Floyd's career hinges on a Pacquiao fight? Lol wtf man if you go back look at what I responded to. That's the ONLY thing I'm talking about but as usual you take things in all sorts of directions. No point.

I'M TALKING ABOUT JONES NIGGA, GODDAMN IT!!!! YOU GONE MAKE ME JUMP THROUGH THE INTERNET NIGGA!!!!!!! JONES!!! WATCH THE FUCKIN VID, GOT ME OVER HERE WITH VEINS POPPIN OUT MY NECK AND SHIT.

This is what you said: the question is why didn't he face Hopkins in a rematch before he moved up?

That's not ALL of what I said:

Again, the question is why didn't he face Hopkins in a rematch before he moved up? Look at who he fought right after he won the vacated title. Just do that and get back to me.

Now look at who he fought before he moved up, lol.

I explained why. Now you're taking it all over the map, you keep moving the goal post. I answered your original question and you keep fucking going and going and going. The question you asked has been thoroughly explained but you keep making this into something it's not. I never co-signed everything Jones said, I simply answered YOUR question.

So you looked at who he fought after the Bhop fight? And I'm not moving the goal post. Did he fight Bhop when it mattered? No. He insisted on 60-40 then YEARS LATER, when there was no true interest, he fights him and loses.

 

[HERESY]

Like I said above, you asked a simple question, I answered it. That's all there was to it as far as I was concerned but you keep making this into a debate that it never was in the first place. Why didn't Jones rematch Hopkins immediately? I answered.


" FLOYD DID NOT HAVE TO FIGHT MANNY BACK THEN BECAUSE THE SAME INTEREST THEN IS STILL HERE."

Absolutely no clue why you would say this. There is still lots of interest. The same? That remains to be seen. Pacquiao has also been KO'd by Marquez and showed a lot of decline over the past two years. Beating Pac now isn't as impressive as it would have been back then.

Bro, you must not have watched the vid.

Watch the vid man. That is all I have to say.

SHIT YOU POSTED THE VID!!!! OMG!!! SMH! I'M DONE.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I swear to fucking Allah I'm going to fly down to wherever the fuck you live, smack you with a glove and challenge you to a fucking duel. Of course I watched the video. I posted it not because I co sign every word the man says, I posted because it's related to this thread. This conversation should have ended when I answered your question, there's no need to go this deep when I already answered pages ago. There simply was no demand after the fight, it wasn't close. If you want to talk about 2001 that's separate from your original posts. In my mind it's not comparable because they were two weight classes apart in 2001. If they were in the same weight class, like Manny and Floyd, that would be completely different. But they weren't. Hopkins was #1 at 160, Jones #1 at 175. There was no obligation to fight each other, unlike#1 147 pound Floyd and #2 147 pound Pacquiao. End.

 

[HERESY]

I swear to fucking Allah I'm going to fly down to wherever the fuck you live, smack you with a glove and challenge you to a fucking duel. Of course I watched the video. I posted it not because I co sign every word the man says, I posted because it's related to this thread. This conversation should have ended when I answered your question, there's no need to go this deep when I already answered pages ago. There simply was no demand after the fight, it wasn't close. If you want to talk about 2001 that's separate from your original posts. In my mind it's not comparable because they were two weight classes apart in 2001. If they were in the same weight class, like Manny and Floyd, that would be completely different. But they weren't. Hopkins was #1 at 160, Jones #1 at 175. There was no obligation to fight each other, unlike#1 147 pound Floyd and #2 147 pound Pacquiao. End.

Jones, didn't fight when it mattered. Floyds career does not hinge on Pacs. Watch that vid bro.

Me and you in 2015. 90-10 with me getting 90 and you also have to convert to Christianity (which is crazy as I'm not a christian anyway.)

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Me and you in 2015. 90-10 with me getting 90 and you also have to convert to Christianity (which is crazy as I'm not a christian anyway.)

60/40 I kick yo ass

 

[HERESY]

60/40 I kick yo ass

90-10. I'm the a side. I'm the draw.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

90-10. I'm the a side. I'm the draw.

You have no legacy without me. 65/35 and we split whatever revenue CZAR makes off his blog.

 

[Coach E. No]

You have no legacy without me. 65/35 and we split whatever revenue CZAR makes off his blog.

damn, you guys are both gonna cash out and retire then

 

[battle619]

@HERESY vs @2-0-Sixx is NOT gonna happen! HERESY's demands are too high. His adviser is fucking up his money man.

 

[CZAR]

^^^Not only that but I aint splitting shit from my Bomb Blog! Got Em!!