Manny Pacquiao in Debt For $18 Million

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HERESY

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How can you sit here and say that with a straight face while you know damn well you have no clue the legalities of Pacquiao's contract? You're speaking out of your ass. Pac could have broke his contract by taking the offer? Which means he would have been sued because Top Rank, by CONTRACT, promotes him. Remember when Mayorga excepted an offer with someone else while under contract with Don King, how'd that turn out? King prevented the fight by court order, not a thing Mayorga could do about it because a contract is a contract.
You know the legalities of pacs contract? Nope. So lets say he took the 40 mill, shot arum 25 and kept 15. That 15 is worth more than what he is getting now and he would have freedom. Stop making excuses man. It is clear now that manny and tr didn't want the fight.
 

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Lol that was the worst response imaginable! $15 mil for the richest fight in history and pay $25m to get out of a contract. Cmon man you're better then that.
The 25 million was a number YOU put out there ao I was going off that. Freedom and 15 million? I will take the freedom and 15. You think he would be in tax trouble now if he had? And think of all the money he would have made afterwards even if he did lose. He would be his own boss and calling the shots just like Floyd.
 
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The 25 million was a number YOU put out there ao I was going off that. Freedom and 15 million? I will take the freedom and 15. You think he would be in tax trouble now if he had? And think of all the money he would have made afterwards even if he did lose. He would be his own boss and calling the shots just like Floyd.
Plus he'd still have to pay taxes on that $40mil, minus what it would be to buy out his contract IF that's even an option.

Look man, this was before he lost to Bradley and JMM before any tax problems etc. Pacquiao was at the height of his stardom. Wasn't going to fly. It's easy to say he should have done this should have done after the fact he got KTFO by JMM and now looks like he has tax problems. I doubt Manny knew wtf was going on with his taxes and blindly truster koncz/TR.

I have no argument about Pacquiao should have, and should be, a free agent like Floyd and Cotto, I said that years ago too. My only thing was Manny can do whatever he wants with his money that's not a concern of mine and it shouldn't have been a concern to Floyd where his money went.
 
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Like I said before, as boxing fans we will never be satisfied with Floyd n Manny not fighting, that's why Floyd fans are "laughing" at what Manny is going thru. The funny part is that Richard Schaefer even came out saying he doesn't believe the reports and it will all go away, with of course throwing a jab at the end. No one is arguing about who makes the most or anything but what they do in the ring. Manny vs Floyd has been in demand and even Mayweather says there is no interest in the fight cuz Manny is past his prime now. We as fans chose a side and view this as a loss for manny but we would never know what would have happened in the ring in their primes. So yes this fight not happening is a blow to boxing and affects both of their legacies. When it's all said and done we will look at both of their careers and wonder what if? Tht's why I said they "need" eachother. Its not so much about money its about what they leave behind. Even pro boxers, real pros not fans like us, say that til this day. this shit happening sucks for Manny but its still not a win in the ring for neither fighter
 
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Like I said before, as boxing fans we will never be satisfied with Floyd n Manny not fighting, that's why Floyd fans are "laughing" at what Manny is going thru. The funny part is that Richard Schaefer even came out saying he doesn't believe the reports and it will all go away, with of course throwing a jab at the end. No one is arguing about who makes the most or anything but what they do in the ring. Manny vs Floyd has been in demand and even Mayweather says there is no interest in the fight cuz Manny is past his prime now. We as fans chose a side and view this as a loss for manny but we would never know what would have happened in the ring in their primes. So yes this fight not happening is a blow to boxing and affects both of their legacies. When it's all said and done we will look at both of their careers and wonder what if? Tht's why I said they "need" eachother. Its not so much about money its about what they leave behind. Even pro boxers, real pros not fans like us, say that til this day. this shit happening sucks for Manny but its still not a win in the ring for neither fighter
wanna know what would happen? compare the performances between the two VS MARQUEZ!!!



Floyd would have made manny look like someone who never laced up a pair of gloves!!!
 
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okay then fine, lets compare... who did better vs Cotto, De la Hoya, Mosley, and Hatton, Floyd or Manny? You cannot do the whole compare thing cuz what Floyd did to Marquez Manny already did that.
 

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okay then fine, lets compare... who did better vs Cotto, De la Hoya, Mosley, and Hatton, Floyd or Manny? You cannot do the whole compare thing cuz what Floyd did to Marquez Manny already did that.
Dude ok, When Manny fought Cotto, Hatton, & Dela Hoya thats when he was juicing before Floyd brought it to everyones attention. U notice he hasnt had a knockout since the call out. 2ndly after the call out he fought Mosley and Marquez twice and Marquez won both fights in most peoples opinion. Not only that but most people feel Marquez won all 4 fights so Manny hasnt come close to doin what Floyd did to Marquez. Floyd threw a shut out against Marquez while every Manny/Marquez fight was very close until the "Put To Sleep" fight came lol. Nice try but keep trying hater. Got Em!!
 
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okay then fine, lets compare... who did better vs Cotto, De la Hoya, Mosley, and Hatton, Floyd or Manny? You cannot do the whole compare thing cuz what Floyd did to Marquez Manny already did that.
wow!! So ur saying HATTON, MOSLEY, COTTO and DE LA HOYA were @ the same calibur when the fought manny!!!! LMAO ur too much man!!!! CZAR @CZAR is right, ur hate for floyd runs deep!
 
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wow!! So ur saying HATTON, MOSLEY, COTTO and DE LA HOYA were @ the same calibur when the fought manny!!!! LMAO ur too much man!!!! CZAR @CZAR is right, ur hate for floyd runs deep!
Cotto was better no doubt.

I'm not taking sides in this silly arguement but triangle theories don't work in boxing, this is basic stuff boxing 101 - styles make fights. Duran went 15 rounds with Hagler in a tuff fight. Hearns killed Duran in two rounds. Triangle theory suggests since Hearns did much better than Hagler against Duran, Hearns beats Hagler right? Of course in reality Hagler KOd Hearns.

In short, what Floyd did to Marquez has ZERO impact on Floyd vs Pacquiao since they are totally different fighters with completely different styles.
 

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So to u 1 out of the 4 fighters were better. Even if so that helps Floyd's argument that he fought 3 of the 4 guys when they were better. Not only that but Im not so sure Cotto was better when he fought Manny. He wasnt to far from coming off that Margarito loss and the aftermath of the possibility that Marg cheated and beat him with plaster in his gloves. That really shook him up. He took time off after the Manny fight to clear his head and switch trainers and was on a vengeance leading up to the Floyd fight where he had ko'd 3 people in a row with a clear head because he avenged his Marg loss. I think he was just as good if not better when he fought Floyd. Regardless though u cant even argue the other 3 which u didnt so those are no brainers. Got Em!!
 
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You could argue Hatton was better or the same at his natural weight class of 140. There is no argument for Cotto he was younger and in his prime or at least closest to it. Regardless you're still missing the point which is it doesn't matter who beat who better or who beat better versions of who, when it comes to Floyd vs Pac those common opponents are completely irrelevant.
 
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You could argue Hatton was better or the same at his natural weight class of 140. There is no argument for Cotto he was younger and in his prime or at least closest to it. Regardless you're still missing the point which is it doesn't matter who beat who better or who beat better versions of who, when it comes to Floyd vs Pac those common opponents are completely irrelevant.
Cotto was also drained to 145 pounds......
 
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No it was 153.... Im just sain Cotoo was comin of an ass whoopin from MArG and he was fighting @ 145...... U figure it out.....
Cotto weighed 146 before Pacquiao. A loss of one pound. Canelo weighed 152, a loss of one pound from his 153 weigh in prior (and yes the catchweight was 152). Same exact thing and one pound made no difference in either fight.

Cotto wasn't coming off a loss when he fought Pacquiao. He won two fights prior. Likewise Cotto was coming off two wins after being KOd by Pacquiao when he fought Floyd. Difference was Cotto was younger against Pacquiao.
 
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He did beat clottey. Tough fight but he won. Who did Cotto fight before Floyd? Got raped by Pacquiao, beat shot Mayorga and a one eyed deformed mutant Margarito who never should have been medically cleared (in fact he wasn't cleared until hours before the fight). So let's take your logic. Cotto gets KOd by Margarito, then as u say an ass beating by Clottey, then another ass beating by Pacquiao, and Floyd fought the better version? Lol sign up for the floyd dicksucking crew applications are accepted by bigface


Seriously though, bullshit aside. You seriously believe Floyd fought a better version of cotto??