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Jan 30, 2007
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just because your mom was a black panther doesnt mean shit....FACT is MOST rappers dont do what they say in there raps.....PAC although a ledgend is NO different....i know he carrys the most stanish fans that will carry his dead body cross country for him to show loyaltly but he didnt do half the shit he raps about.....and on a westcoast underground hiphop forum i dont expect nothing but people going crazy over what i said...

he claims a coast that he didnt even grow up on...(people say that he got laced on the westcoast.....but he didnt even come over here untill he was almost MAN) yet it was west till he died.....

people gotta reilaze that SUGE made the tupac CHARCTER who he was.....its hard to swallow for most people that wrap there life around his legacy but its reality
Man shut the fuck up and do your homework before u write a commentary on people.Pac never claimed to be strictly Westcoast he made it known he was East Coast and lived in Baltimore as well as Marin.That muthafucka shot those off duty cops before he ever hooked up with Suge so that debunks your whole theory on "Suge made the Tupac character".I aint no Pac Stan by far,u wont find one post by me biggin him up but how many rappers u know today live that real shit? Call him a ballerina or fake thug or whatever the fuck u wanna call him but that muthafucka didnt bite his tongue for shit...IMO he raised the bar for most cats out these days
 
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^^^^he sure did. lol you made me think about this movie i watched on him where he was somewhere and someone was bootleggin his shit. forgot what that movie was called. it was one of them pac movies.
 
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Ya but supposedly Tone was a fucking ruthless human being that crossed way too many people. I've heard lots of people say they were surprised he wasn't killed sooner.
Tone had a very bad rep in KC. A rep for being a trouble maker. He was only like 24 when he died & was very known around KC for being a notorious street nigga.
 
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first off, free the OG homie Chop...

Second, I had the privilege of knowing Pac before and during the Death Row days through a family friend. He never bit his tongue for anyone, and was well aware of his actions and words. He went through more shit than 99% of these rappers and had the knowledge to know how to bring so many issues to the publics attention. So what if the big homie took balet. Grow up and get off the childish shit. Even at that young age, he knew what he was doin, learning from and not discriminating against all of the people that he would come across
 

Rossibreath

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i could care less bout this argument but if 50cent or sum other hated rapper on here took ballet dudes would roast em. lol @ thinkin ballets ok just cuz pac took it.
 
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like i said many times i dont expect nothing but the responses that ive gotten....your not going to change my mind about the tupac charcter......shooting at cops and dying by a bullet doesnt make you real...
 
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^^ i dont warrant a response? haha r u fuckin hip hop cop? and who da fuck u listen 2 mace? mobbsleep? p.i.g. dat came back to CALI and got BUTCHERED!!!
your clearly a stan......and i probally listen to the same rappers you do..just because i can call there bluff and say there not as real as people think doesnt mean there any less of a rapper to me...

people over do it going into rappers lives and shit like its a big deal.....get yall mouth from tupacs nuts.....yall aint realated.....what warrants the name calling really? yall THAT mad that i bring up tupac liek that...


real question......if someone brought this convo up in REAL life.....would you want to fight that person?
 
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THAT BALLERINA ALSO SHOT COPS AND RODE HARDER FOR THE WEST COAST AND WHAT HE BELIEVED IN THAN ANY RAPPER I'VE EVER SEEN.
Come on now homie. Those were off duty cops. He thought he was popping civilians until he found out the the day he was arrested. Plus none of the shots he fired were fatal.

He rode hard for the West after he got out of Rikers cuz Ney York @ the time he went to jail had dogged shit out of him. Notice he wasn't hollering West Coast & throwing up the "W" hella hard prior to his conviction? And wahst the point of riding so hard for the West when he was raised in the East?

Oh, and let's not forget him being a dry snitch about him claiming Biggie shot him.

Thought I'd just point out some shit that people seem to never realize or choose to ignore about dude. I don't know if he real or not but the shit I named above sure makes him sound fake as hell.

Don't mean to get off topic.
 
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he claims a coast that he didnt even grow up on...(people say that he got laced on the westcoast.....but he didnt even come over here untill he was almost MAN) yet it was west till he died.....
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Seriously though, It sounds to me like you got more beef wit Pac's mamma than you do with him. I don't know about the rest of yall, but as a child I had no input on when, where, or how I was born or even grew up. I also had no say in what schools I went to and damn near no say so in what classes I took. Most if not all of you probably didn't even have a choice of religion. You just blindly followed your parents or guardians and never gave it a second thought. ( Which by the way means you've basically allowed someone ELSE to determine the fate of your eternal soul without further investigation).

As a man you can make your own choices, and those who blindly follow what was laid out for them without SELF examination and a questioning of their own beliefs are merely clones of those they have been raised by. Pac was not a clone. His early life experiences (such as ballet) and constant movement as a chiid bred in him a philosophy that embraced a diverse set of ideals. In other words he could walk both sides of the street, and he liked that fact. Why? Because he understood that knowledge is power. See, the difference between GOD and man is that men know SOME things but GOD knows EVERYTHING. With that thought in mind, logically it would follow that the more knowledge one attains, the closer to GOD one becomes. So then you have to ask yourself what is GOD and for that matter what is power? As far as I know, most religions of the world consider GOD to BE power.

Now I ain't no religious freak (don't get it twisted I don't even attend church), what I'm spittin at you is philosophy. Philosophies that Pac was introduced to at an early age and became elements of his own personal philosophy. Believing ballet to be inherently unmanly or "not real" without any actual facts to back it up that belief is VERY narrow minded at best.

Say, you somehow in your travels find yourself, not only in the same room, but in the same conversation with a bunch of major international entertainment moguls and the conversation comes around to dance (ballet to be specific). You know in your mind that impressing any one of these moguls could make your career. What do you think would impress them more? You saying "I don't fuck with that shit. It's gay", or you spittin' FIRST HAND knowledge of dance and ballet as the art form that it is. I mean what exactly do you niggaz think them type of muthafuckas do for enjoyment? You think they sit around drinkin 40s, and smokin' blunts, while playin Xbox 360? Come on ya'll do better... You should embrace all knowledge and culture, it can only take you further in this world.

Peace to the nigga Mac Minister...

P.S. I defy any nigga on this site to give me a reason why ballet is inherently "not real", "gay", "bad", "unmanly", or in anyway "negative" without sounding like a complete idiot (I guarantee I'll tear you to shreds)...
 
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P.S. I defy any nigga on this site to give me a reason why ballet is inherently "not real", "gay", "bad", "unmanly", or in anyway "negative" without sounding like a complete idiot (I guarantee I'll tear you to shreds)...
Lets hear it.

You know damn well you are only saying that becuase it was 2Pac, so he gets a "pass".

If it were Lil Wayne that took ballet lessons, then people would say "i knew he was a fag, all that kissing, and now it comes out that he is a ballet dancer".

Its called DENIAL..and when something negative happens to a person you hold in high regard, you REJECT it first.
 
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Lets hear it.

You know damn well you are only saying that becuase it was 2Pac, so he gets a "pass".

If it were Lil Wayne that took ballet lessons, then people would say "i knew he was a fag, all that kissing, and now it comes out that he is a ballet dancer".

Its called DENIAL..and when something negative happens to a person you hold in high regard, you REJECT it first.
You're missing the point. Explain to us (without sounding like an idiot) why why ballet is inherently "not real", "gay", "unmanly", "bad", or in any way "negative"...