Los Angeles Latino Gang Members Convicted of Anti-Black Conspiracy

[HERESY]

ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE ON THE STREETS WHAT'S BEHIND THE KILLINGS IN SOUTH CENTRAL,ANYBODY WHO LIVES OUT HERE,CAN TELL YOU THAT BLACK OR BROWN..THE FUNNY THING THAT EVERYTIME A MEXICAN GETS KILLED ITS NEVER RACIALLY MOTIVATED BUT WHEN ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND,THE RACE CARD GETS PULLED OUT.

You just contradicted surcaliman, the link he posted, AND yourself all within the same post. Pay attention to the words in bold. First you are claiming that it is common knowledge as to whats behind the killings, and you claim blacks and browns can tell whats going down. However, you make an unfounded and irrational claim that everytime a mexican is killed its never racially motivated, but when its the other way around the race card gets pulled.

First off, do you have any evidence to support this claim? If you have no evidence to support this claim you should probably change your wording to "I THINK everytime", or "IT IS MY OPINION that everytime". So, assuming racism is behind the killings, and assuming blacks and mexicans know this to be true (and can tell it), how is it possible that both parties can say when mexicans get killed it is not racially motivated?

Please, before you go into the "I was talking about the police and media" rig up, you should watch the link your buddy surcaliman posted. In that link racism was the first motive mentioned, and his previous link talked about killings on both sides, so with that being said you have no proof to support your claim. With that being said, stop trying to make it seem as if all the blame is being put on mexicans while others are pulling some so-called "race cards." BTW, who are you claiming is pulling the race card? Blacks? Whites? Asians? Arabs? Aliens?

In closing, I am NOT saying that blacks do NOT commit racially motivated killings. What I AM saying is surcaliman jumped down someones throat and has yet to provide the evidence to support his claim. Now, if you want to post a picture as proof of evidence go right ahead, my friend. However, I don't know where that pic came from, I don't know how old that pic is (it could have been taken in he early 90's for all I know), and I don't know exactly who hit the wall up. In other words, if you are posting that pic as proof of racially motivated killings you need to wrap it up.

 

[reza]

^ just visit South L.A. and do your own research on this topic if it is such a concern. maybe surcaliman and wicked can take you on a tour to imperial courts or l.a. county jail to get a sense of the tension between some blacks and hispanics. sounds ridiculous but that will give you solid evidence that you're searching for.

 

[HERESY]

^ just visit South L.A. and do your own research on this topic if it is such a concern.

It is not such a concern that I would drive (or fly) hundreds of miles from the bay (or diego) just to research it. However, we are HERE, on the siccness, and surcaliman needs to back his claims up. However, since my research is such a concern to YOU, why don't YOU pay for my travel expenses, room, and food, and I'll be HAPPY to report my findings.

maybe surcaliman and wicked can take you on a tour to imperial courts or l.a. county jail to get a sense of the tension between some blacks and hispanics.

Junior, I am majoring in criminal justice, if I go to the courts or to jail it is for extra credit. You know what? Maybe I just might do that when the semester roles around later on this month. However, I have already said there is tension and racism, so why would I need to hit imperial courts or la county jail to get a sense of this?

sounds ridiculous but that will give you solid evidence that you're searching for.

And you still posted it....

 

[reza]

It is not such a concern that I would drive (or fly) hundreds of miles from the bay (or diego) just to research it. However, we are HERE, on the siccness, and surcaliman needs to back his claims up. However, since my research is such a concern to YOU, why don't YOU pay for my travel expenses, room, and food, and I'll be HAPPY to report my findings.

I guess its not such a concern. However, by asking dude five times for evidence seems a bit extraordinaire, right? I don't want to assume but i don't think he's going to satisfy your request. Just give up on it, man.

Junior, I am majoring in criminal justice, if I go to the courts or to jail it is for extra credit. You know what? Maybe I just might do that when the semester roles around later on this month. However, I have already said there is tension and racism, so why would I need to hit imperial courts or la county jail to get a sense of this?

Hey, since i have already graduated from college(Accounting degree), i can go as well by using my "sick" time at the firm i work for, Junior. By hitting imperial courts or l.a. county...you'll get a better idea/understanding of what surcaliman and wicked are referring to as tension and racism(tagging on walls, walk through black/brown hoods) rather than just stating it exist. don't you agree? Have you been to South L.A.? Why should i ask, huh...it's not a concern to you.

And you still posted it....

posting is simple, I just get impatient using quotes.

 

[HERESY]

I guess its not such a concern. However, by asking dude five times for evidence seems a bit extraordinaire, right?

No, it is not extraordinaire because people are constantly posting things on this site as fact, yet when they get called on it they crumble and fold. If that man had not jumped down the homies throat the way he did, I wouldn't have even said anything to him. However, what is extraordinaire is the inability to back his position, so instead of worrying about me questioning him, you should be concerned about his lack of commitment when it comes to answering questions derived from his statements.

I don't want to assume but i don't think he's going to satisfy your request. Just give up on it, man.

I knew he wasn't going to answer it the second time I asked him to, and I DID give up on it, everything else was just proving my point.

Hey, since i have already graduated from college(Accounting degree), i can go as well by using my "sick" time at the firm i work for, Junior.

Thats great son, since you are an accountant and obviously make a lot of cash why don't you foot the entire bill for this trip? If you are not going to do this why are you telling me about your job at H&R Block? Am I supposed to be impressed by you working with a firm? No. Are you supposed to be impressed with me majoring in CJ? No, BUT....my education IS relevant to the topic, AND it is relevant to your suggestion (which I can actually get extra credit for.) YOUR work history and education are NOT a factor in this topic UNLESS you are going to fit the bill, sammy.

By hitting imperial courts or l.a. county...you'll get a better idea/understanding of what surcaliman and wicked are referring to as tension and racism(tagging on walls, walk through black/brown hoods) rather than just stating it exist.

For one, are surcaliman and wicked hitting the courts? Obviously NOT! If these guys are not hitting the courts why should I hit the courts to learn about this? Again, for extra credit purposes I would do something like that, but I can easily hit the prisons up here in northern cali and learn about the same racial tensions. Again, no one is saying that racism and tension between the two does NOT exist, because it is obvious that it does, but what I am saying is that surcaliman has yet to sunstaniate his claim, and wicked has contradicted surcaliman, surcalimans evidence and himself.

don't you agree?

No, I don't agree. Do you see surcaliman walking around and taking pictures of his own to post up? NO! Do you see wicked walking around and posting pics of his own to post up? NO! With that being said, it is FOOLISH for me to travel hundreds of miles to see this when these two guys are in the area and can't even provide the info to back their claims.

Have you been to South L.A.?

Southern L.A. is rather large is it not? Name off the cities in the area, and I'll tell you if I've thouched down. The last time I went to L.A. was around 3 years ago and I was on my way to a graduation in San Diego.

Why should i ask, huh...it's not a concern to you.

Actually, it should be more of a concern to whom the burden of proof lies, and the burdun of proof lies with surcaliman and wicked.

posting is simple, I just get impatient using quotes.

You obviously do not understand sarcasm....

 

[EASTSIDELV702]

BUT SURCALIMAN AND WICKED R FROM LA THEY SEE THIS SHIT ON THE NEWS U DONT SEE LA NEWS WHERE EVER U LIVE......THE PROOF IS IN LA NOT ANYWHERE ELSE

 

[HERESY]

BUT SURCALIMAN AND WICKED R FROM LA THEY SEE THIS SHIT ON THE NEWS U DONT SEE LA NEWS WHERE EVER U LIVE......

Knowing that I have a fast internet connection, and knowing that I can access damn near every news station just by typing in the stations name, I'll give very little thought to your comment. However, just in case you don't understand, did I know police were hunting for a killer in north hollywood? No. Did the story pop up here in the bay? No. Did I hit an LA news site and watch the news? Yes. Do I now know police in no ho are looking for a killer? Yes.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_218124650.html

......THE PROOF IS IN LA NOT ANYWHERE ELSE

One would logically assume that since blacks and mexicans are fighting each other in california prisons, that I would not need to go to la courts or jails to get an insight on the current problem.

Please, for future references, THINK before you type a response to me.

 

[EASTSIDELV702]

IDK WHAT ELSE TO SAY UMMMM WELL WICKED SURCALIMAN GET YOURSELVES A DIGI CAM AND TAKE THE PICS OF BLACKS BEIN RACIST AND MEXICANS BEIN RACIST ON THE WALLS SO U CAN SHOW HERESY...SINCE I DONT LIVE OUT IN LA THEN I SHOULDNT SAY NOTHIN BOUT THEIR PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE IN LA

 

[MuneyHongry650]

LOL Heresy completely puttin surcaliman and reza on full blast

i agree wit him tho, in my opinion Latins and mexicans especially in Socal are more prone to exhibit racial superiority and violonce towards blacks... btw that article fuckin disgusted me, killing innocent women and children for no reason other than one's race. Its the exact same shit, and its just as if not more ruthless than the KKK ever was. All in my personal opinion.

 

[reza]

Thats great son, since you are an accountant and obviously make a lot of cash why don't you foot the entire bill for this trip? If you are not going to do this why are you telling me about your job at H&R Block? Am I supposed to be impressed by you working with a firm? No. Are you supposed to be impressed with me majoring in CJ? No, BUT....my education IS relevant to the topic, AND it is relevant to your suggestion (which I can actually get extra credit for.) YOUR work history and education are NOT a factor in this topic UNLESS you are going to fit the bill, sammy

...says the unemployed college student.

Actually, it should be more of a concern to whom the burden of proof lies, and the burdun of proof lies with surcaliman and wicked

doesn't look like they will come up with that proof, huh...

You obviously do not understand sarcasm....

likewise...silly to disagree on picking up sarcasm on the internet though.

btw...keep striving for that degree in Crim. Justice. Tell you what...I have connections that will get you a job as a Loss Prevention agent at Macy's. You can chase all the 14-year-old kids who steal Sean John clothing. Pays only $14 an hour but at least you can start paying moms rent money. :ermm:

 

[HERESY]

...says the unemployed college student.

I have a studio, I charge people to record and mix, and my usual engineering fees (outside of my spot) are based on the place I am engineering at plus 15%. Rates here are $20 to $35 depending on the project. So much for being an unemployed college student. Btw, if you want a client list I can provide you with one, and if you need to see a business license or would like credible references that can be provided. Now, can you show me how your accounting degree or working at some mysterious firm is applicable to this thread?

doesn't look like they will come up with that proof, huh...

I came to that conclusion the second time I had to ask for evidence.

likewise...silly to disagree on picking up sarcasm on the internet though.

What would be the difference between reading sarcasm on the net or reading sarcasm derived from Machiavelli or Aristotle? None. You have no point, son.

btw...keep striving for that degree in Crim. Justice

I will, I have the plan all mapped out, including what I plan to do in grad school. I have a good teacher and he has been plugging me in with various people. My plans are to major in a behavioral science and to become a criminologist. Your plans? Well, to continue to work for someone else at some mysterious firm....

Tell you what...I have connections that will get you a job as a Loss Prevention agent at Macy's.

Must be the same person who hooked you up at this mysterious firm? Oh I get it now! You are the guy who looks over the pay roll sheets!

You can chase all the 14-year-old kids who steal Sean John clothing.

Good, they need to be locked up. In fact lock them up and lock their parents up. That will teach them to not steal from the allmighty macys!!!! ARGH!!!!!

Pays only $14 an hour but at least you can start paying moms rent money.

Damn, that means moms will have to pay for my phone and internet access!!!!! HELP!!!!

Son, you have it wrong, and not only that, do you see how you were easily manipulated, and how you no longer stick to the subject? Here it is stuck my nose in someone elses business (because surcaliman had it coming anyway), I ripped him to pieces, I ripped his buddies to pieces, and now I am ripping you to pieces. Watch you come back to this thread, and make more insults, but before you do I'll ask you the same questions I've prevously asked you:

I have already said there is tension and racism, so why would I need to hit imperial courts or la county jail to get a sense of this (racism)?

If these guys are not hitting the courts why should I hit the courts to learn about this (racism)?

 

[reza]

^ how was i manipulated? we're having a friendly sunday conversation over the net. The reason why i said to hit those places, as well as other south L.A. locations, was to get a better sense of the tension between the black and brown through communication(verbal) with them rather than reading about it on the net. Ask the locals, prisoners, gangmembers about the situation(Do they think/know murders are racially motivated). You won't be able to find that on a web link. Again, this only applies if you're actually interested in the topic but we already came to the conclusion that you're not. So why beat a dead horse?

I made that Macy's comment after you assumed I work for H&R block. No personal attack, bro.

 

[HERESY]

EDIT: Too brutal and not needed. No need to drag it out more.

 

[SLICC RICC]

LOL... IF YOU DONT LIVE IN L.A., YOU CANT REALLY SAY SHIT ABOUT HOW SHIT IS GOIN DOWN OVER HERE... PLAIN N SIMPLE...

 

[HERESY]

LOL... IF YOU DONT LIVE IN L.A., YOU CANT REALLY SAY SHIT ABOUT HOW SHIT IS GOIN DOWN OVER HERE... PLAIN N SIMPLE...

No one who does not live in LA is not talking about what goes down in LA. Racism between blacks and mexicans is not exclusive to LA. Please read before you respond.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

BTW...East Coast Crip is named after the original ECC hood that was on the eastside of a street/overpass/bridge...i cant remember which one though...im sure you can find it somewhere on the net.....

 

[Mr. Manolo]

BTW...East Coast Crip is named after the original ECC hood that was on the eastside of a street/overpass/bridge...i cant remember which one though...im sure you can find it somewhere on the net.....

^^^^ Who is this guy? Some sort of gang historian? HAHA!!!!

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

^^^^ Who is this guy? Some sort of gang historian? HAHA!!!!

Excuse you?

Muthafuckas was askin...so i answered...you gotta problem with that?

 

[WiCkEd]

First you are claiming that it is common knowledge as to whats behind the killings, and you claim blacks and browns can tell whats going down. However, you make an unfounded and irrational claim that everytime a mexican is killed its neveFirst off, do you have any evidence to support this claim? If you have no evidence to support this claim you should probably change your wording to "I THINK everytime", or "IT IS MY OPINION that everytime". So, assuming racism is behind the killings, and assuming blacks and mexicans know this to be true (and can tell it), how is it possible that both parties can say when mexicans get killed it is not racially motivated?

EVIDENCE LIKE FROM THE INTERNET ?,YOUR EVIDENCE IS ME AND OTHERS WHO LIVE OUT HERE WHO ARE TELLING YOU ALL WHATS GOIN ON,YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION..

 

[HERESY]

EVIDENCE LIKE FROM THE INTERNET ?,

Why did you post a picture from a site that has poll, asking who the realist gangsta rapper is? Homie, read my previous responses, because I made it quite clear as to what type of evidence I required. If you want to know what evidence I require READ my previous posts to surcaliman.

YOUR EVIDENCE IS ME AND OTHERS WHO LIVE OUT HERE WHO ARE TELLING YOU ALL WHATS GOIN ON,YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION..

Homie, I don't know you from a can a paint. With that being said, how do I know you are in LA? You can claim to be from LA, but truth of the matter is you could possibly be my next door neighbor. You and others who claim to live in the area does NOT satisfy my request for evidence, nor does it validate anything you guys are saying.

Again, if you want to know what evidence I am looking for refer to my posts directed at surcaliman.