Lebanon Or Israel: The Official Debate Thread

[HERESY]

that was a few days ago.

LOL...this is gonna be great. I think I'm gonna do this tommorow!

Now, because you keep lusting for it, I think I'll hold off for another week!

@Blackjack_1577

you said:

Heresy, is there any way of distingiuishing who is a false Jew and who is a real Jew/Semetic?

It depends on what you consider a jew and what you consider a semite. If you consider a SEMITE to be a person belonging to a linguistic group, anyone speaking a semetic language could technically be a "semite." If you consider a SEMITE to be a race/ethnicity, anyone of ARAB descent OR with blood ties to SHEM is a "semite" (HEBREW is considred ARAB and HEBREWS trace to Shem.)

If you consider a JEW to be a follower of a religion like judaism or talmudism, anyone who has gone through the proper conversion (depending the sect) or anyone who's mother is a "jew" is considered a "jew". If you consider a JEW to be a race/ethnicity anyone who traces to the tribe of YEHUDA can be considered YEHUDIM or a "jew." But, due to stupidity people clump all "jews" together, classify them as hebrew and now we have a big mess.

So with that being explained tell me what you think jews are or what you consider jews and we'll get the ball rolling.

My opinion personally, is that I think only a small percentage of the 20-25 million Jews of today are real Hebrews, DEFINITELY NOT ALL!

I agree with this.

But how exactly can we tell who is a real Jew, and who isn't? Is there a specific country or region, where the real true Hebrews come from (like Ethiopia or North Africa for example)?

Some of them do come from Ethiopia which is why they are allowed into the country, but only 300 or so are allowed into the country each year and these people have a CREDIBLE HISTORY linking them to the land. Now compare that to the WHITE so-called jews who come into the country at the TENS OF THOUSANDS per year, get good jobs, get great housing, get great benefits and you start to wonder....

How exactly can you prove who is a real Hebrew and who isn't? Just wanna hear your thoughts...

For the most part you have to look at the history of the people, and so far all evidence that has linked the european "jews" to the land has been refuted, and if something did pop up that was not refuted you have an issue of bloodline which has already been refuted (and which I have previously posted in another thread.) But, I do know what you can prove. You can prove that the majority of european jews are not HEBREW. That can be done and has already been done countless times.

"To be a Jew, especially at this historical juncture, means to lack a single essence, to live with multiple identities." - David Biale - Professor of Jewish History

@ Rx you said,

^LOL
real jews are black people
http://www.rickross.com/groups/black_israelites.html

Almost as real as white men with big noses claiming a maniac killed millions of people.

@Jomodo, everytime we have this little debate you are always tortured and butchered. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GRAMMATICAL ERRORS THAT YOU MAKE. I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU TOTALLY SWITCHING YOUR POSITION WHEN YOU ARE IN THE LINE OF FIRE (although the grammatical errors do open doors to more beatings.)

H will probably post some Jive B.S. about how Jews today practice ‘Talmudism’ and not real Judaism, which is actually quite a load full.

Wrong, and stop poisoning the well. You are using several fallacies to spread misinformation and taint my evidence (thus causing people to believe you) OR you want me to tell you what I have. Sorry, Auschwitz it ain't gonna happen. I'll post it when I am good and ready.

However, since you did mention it:

http://www.karaite-korner.org/main.shtml

http://www.come-and-hear.com/talmud/finkelstein.html

BOTH of these confirm what I have previously stated in the past.

Do some research on the Sanhedrin, originally headed by Moses…. Here www.wikipedia.org go type in the Sanhedrin, now can you draw the correlation from the Sanhedrin to the Talmud? Do you understand that todays Talmud is an extenstion/on going oral tradition since biblical times?

This guy appears to make it seem as if it is a simple extension or oral tradition but that is NOT the case. MANY of the rites have changed, many of the scriptures are interpreted different etc. It is simply not an "oral tradition" as this human is making it out to be.

I think I have figured out the root of H’s hostility though, Is it b/c the role the Pharasiees played in regard to the execution of your IDOL that you are filled with the same Mel Gibsonish contempt for the Jews of today?

When the Faux Jew refers to "IDOL" he is implying Yeshua (but we both know he actually meant to type Hitler.) If they executed Yeshua, (which they did) the blood is on their hands. That has nothing to do with my sentiments towards Jews. Do you see me saying "all jews are evil" or all jews are money hungry bankers"? NO! You accused me of the latter, but I tore you a new one when you did it and had you back peddling and changing your words. What you WILL see me saying is Israel SHOULD be given to THE REAL HEBREWS (whomever they may be.) What you WILL see me saying is the PROMISED LAND was going to be ARGETINA or UGANDA if the plan were carried out. What you WILL see me saying is ISRAEL does have a right to exist, but that the current state is in violation and has violated it's own agreement.

I am openly for a HEBREW state. I am NOT for a WHITE/EUROPEAN state that BUTCHERS arabs, has ENSLAVED Afrikans (yes jews were involved in the slave trade) and continues to promote racism under the veil of religion, zionism, and self preservation.

I have many times proved the bloodline (thorugh intermarriage, cross breeding, the diaspora, and time, its just a concept you refuse to accept, and despite the bloodline, I again ask, what about the Book of Ruth, I assume she was a faux-Jew as well, at least according to your definition?

This guy says "cross breeding" as if jews are animals lol!!!! Again, you have mentioned the bloodline and I have REFUTED IT. You mentioned the Cohen gene. It was debunked. You mentioned the diaspora. It was debunked. And so what you mentioned the book of Ruth? And? The book of Ruth places more emphasis on MARRIAGE and the worship of YHWH instead of marriage and the worship of IDOLS. It deals with a lot of legality (and I believe I did address this in the past.)

Also, as a side note honestly, how much have the B.S. protocols helped formulate your contemptuous views?

I doubt a honest bone exists in your body, but if it did it is obvious that you have broken it a LONG time ago. The protocols of zion (rather real or fake) have nothing to do with this, and you asking is simply a ploy to see where I am coming from. Stop allowing fallacies to dictate your arguments and just accept the fact that you (just like many people on the planet) don't know where the hell you come from.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

@HERESY,

Some of them do come from Ethiopia which is why they are allowed into the country, but only 300 or so are allowed into the country each year and these people have a CREDIBLE HISTORY linking them to the land. Now compare that to the WHITE so-called jews who come into the country at the TENS OF THOUSANDS per year, get good jobs, get great housing, get great benefits and you start to wonder....

Have you read about the Israeli Black Panthers? Pretty interesting imo and it's pretty obvious of the widespread Israeli discrimination against black and "dark-skinned" jews.

 

[2-0-NINE]

That's true I've heard of them too, They treat the European ones with more Respect than the Ethiopian ones, Considering that the Ethiopian Jews are A DIRECT DISCENT OF KING SOLOMON where's they're heir to Israel, don't they forget HAILE SALLASIE!

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

"Almost as real as white men with big noses claiming a maniac killed millions of people."

"Sorry, Auschwitz it ain't gonna happen. I'll post it when I am good and ready." <Calling a jewish man auschwitz

^
Childish bigotry betraying you as a racist in direct oposition to your claim of


"Do you see me saying "all jews are evil" or all jews are money hungry bankers"? NO"

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

^
3. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into creating class struggle by promoting ethnic hatred.

an example of another quality you share with the false patriot

 

[HERESY]

"Almost as real as white men with big noses claiming a maniac killed millions of people."

"Sorry, Auschwitz it ain't gonna happen. I'll post it when I am good and ready." <Calling a jewish man auschwitz

^
Childish bigotry betraying you as a racist in direct oposition to your claim of


"Do you see me saying "all jews are evil" or all jews are money hungry bankers"? NO"

My claim: I didn't say all jews were evil or money hungry bankers.

Your claim: I am posting something that is in direct opposition to what I claim of myself.

Your proof: Me calling a faux jew Auschwitz and referring to white men with big noses (something that is often used to describe jews.)


How does your proof invalidate my claim? Your evidence doesn't prove it so why type it? LMAO! Also, if we are going to talk about racism lets go to YOUR comment that warranted the response in the first place:

^LOL
real jews are black people
http://www.rickross.com/groups/black_israelites.html

So, I guess that statement was filled with brotherly love, and not filled with bigotry.

NEXT TIME, IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE SO-CALLED RACIST CLAIMS YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE THINGS YOU SAY.

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

No i was making fun of a cult you are making fun of a race dipshit there is a distinction.

another example by you of the golden rule of dinformationists.

and I am not the cause for your racist commentary that you can only blame on yourself.

 

[HERESY]

No i was making fun of a cult you are making fun of a race dipshit there is a distinction.

No, you weren't making fun of a cult you are making fun of a race dipshit. You LAUGHED and said, "real jews are black people", and you provided a link to people who call themselves black israelites. You were attacking black people not just the followers of that specific religious movement.

another example by you of the golden rule of dinformationists.and I am not the cause for your racist commentary that you can only blame on yourself.

Sure guy. You post five pages worth of disinformation crap (that was obviously cut and pasted) and now you proceed to be the specialist at determining who is spreading so called disinformation....

Again, you need to lay off your racial overtones if you want others to. If not I'll bring it to you EVERYTIME.

 

[HERESY]

@HERESY,



Have you read about the Israeli Black Panthers? Pretty interesting imo and it's pretty obvious of the widespread Israeli discrimination against black and "dark-skinned" jews.

Yes I have, and from what I read they were doing the country a service. However, a lot of info on the web pertaining to them has been tainted and misconstrued. Do you have any ebooks or offline commentary I can peep?

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

LOL at bringing it to me again with the "im doing to you" what your actually doing to me crap.

and no im not making fun of all black people im making fun of a group of people who claim that all black people are jews which is totally obserd.

you on the otherhand consitantly, predictably disrespect attempt to humiliate in a derogatory manner the race of people you refer to as the false jews

Im no expert on disinformation thats you I just noticed a more than a few interesting correlations between several members of this forum and the discriptions of disinformationists in the cut and pasted article.

Cat im starting to think your not that intelligent am I off base there I mean can you distinguish between parody and commentary or are you just being a dick because I called you a racist? I mean if your a racist against "jews" just admit it that way people can actually know where you stand on shit or wait maybe you really don't want that.

 

[HERESY]

LOL at bringing it to me again with the "im doing to you" what your actually doing to me crap.

That doesn't even make sense. Bottom line is if you take the convo to a certain place I'll play right along with you if I choose to. Again, I'll bring it to you everytime.

and no im not making fun of all black people im making fun of a group of people who claim that all black people are jews which is totally obserd.

No, you were making fun of all black people. You said, "real jews are black people" and made NO distinction. You didn't say ANYTHING about the so-called cult nor did you explain it, and the fact that I previously addressed the plight of ethiopian jews, and saw your response adds more fuel to the flame. I took it as a direct attack on black people as a whole and thats what it was. Deal with it.

you on the otherhand consitantly, predictably disrespect attempt to humiliate in a derogatory manner the race of people you refer to as the false jews

This is is not true, and you know it. What you are doing is attempting to use fallacies to steer my position away and poison the well, but it is not going to work. I don't humiliate anyone, they humiliate themselves, and when people are endorsing a government that promotes the murder of innocent people they need to be ridiculed. You want to see ridicule? Ask the Lebenese about the ridicule they see on a daily basis. If a person speaks out against the so -called jews he or she is anti-semetic. If a person endorses the so-called jews he or she is a zionist. If me making comments towards a person who has a HISTORY of being a blind racist (Jomodo) and a person that has attacked the entire black race (YOU), I offer no apologies, but do offer a bit of advice. GET OVER IT (something YOUR PEOPLE have been telling MY PEOPLE for YEARS.)

Im no expert on disinformation thats you I just noticed a more than a few interesting correlations between several members of this forum and the discriptions of disinformationists in the cut and pasted article

No, it is not me, it is you, for you were the one who posted the cut job in the first place. Yes, the article may be applicable to ANY and ALL people in this forum and every forum on a message board where people share ideas, but you (and Jomodo) are the ones spreading misinformation; Jomodo with his false jewish dreams, and you with your insults and open attacks.

Cat im starting to think your not that intelligent am I off base there I mean can you distinguish between parody and commentary or are you just being a dick because I called you a racist?

Junior, the deal is I don't think I have EVER considered you intelligent or anything bearing a resemblance to such. Here it is I make a statement about white men with big noses (which is often used to signify some of the false jews) and Auschwitz, but you somehow imply that it is the same as saying all jews are evil or money hungry bankers. LMAO! Son, give it up. You can call me a racist all you wan't BUT you have to remember several things:

1. You are the guilty party here for you attacked all black people.

2. And this is the most important...IF I am a being a dick because you called me a racist what can YOU do about it? Nothing? Good job, sport. See, I can tell the difference between a parody and commentary, but you were openly attacking black people, and I have the right to attack you back. Deal with it, son. Stop being "ha ha funny guy" for a single day of your life and learn some respect. If you don't people like me WILL humiliate so-called jews such as yourself, and you should be THANKFUL that I'm not one of those guys who would fuck you up on GP just for being a so-called jew. If you want ME to be serious and not make insults YOU need to be serious. This is no laughing matter here, junior, and while you are pretending to be the stand up comedian people are dying on BOTH sides of this war. So, if you want me to play fair and show an ounce of dignity, YOU need to show the same respect. If not, I will bring it to you everytime, and you will make an issue EVERYTIME I DO IT.

I mean if your a racist against "jews" just admit it that way people can actually know where you stand on shit or wait maybe you really don't want that.

If, I were racist against jews, or showed discrimination against jews you would be the first to know it. However, I am not racist against them nor am I discriminating against them. However, what you WILL see me stating is what I have stated in this thread.

Israel SHOULD be given to THE REAL HEBREWS (whomever they may be.) What you WILL see me saying is the PROMISED LAND was going to be ARGETINA or UGANDA if the plan were carried out. What you WILL see me saying is ISRAEL does have a right to exist, but that the current state is in violation and has violated it's own agreement.

I am openly for a HEBREW state. I am NOT for a WHITE/EUROPEAN state that BUTCHERS arabs, has ENSLAVED Afrikans (yes jews were involved in the slave trade) and continues to promote racism under the veil of religion, zionism, and self preservation.

Einstein, my position is as CLEAR AS DAY, and if you don't comprehend it, I don't know what to tell you. Do the so-called jews have a right to exist? Sure, they have the right to exist, live in freedom, make money, provide for their families, practice their religion of choice and do everything under the sun, but when they do it with evil intentions, murder the innocent, steal from the poor and justify it in the name of God, religion, or peace I have a problem with it.

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

"That doesn't even make sense. Bottom line is if you take the convo to a certain place I'll play right along with you if I choose to. Again, I'll bring it to you everytime."

It may not make sence to you because your monsterous ego won't let you accept fault but rest assured that it makes sence tiger. You sound like a little kid talking about bringing it and shit.

"No, you were making fun of all black people. You said, "real jews are black people" and made NO distinction. You didn't say ANYTHING about the so-called cult nor did you explain it, and the fact that I previously addressed the plight of ethiopian jews, and saw your response adds more fuel to the flame. I took it as a direct attack on black people as a whole and thats what it was. Deal with it."

What part of my comment is disrespectful to black people? Do you consider the term jew an insult? Black Isrealites claim all black people are jews I said LOL look the jews are black people with a link to their site, to anyone with anykind of intellegence this is making fun of black Isrealites, but to YOU it is making fun of all black people, this is because here just like in the majority of every other discussion you are involved in you are assbackwards.
You took it as a direct attack on black people because you can't discriminate between parody and commentary. A symptom of idiocy. Its been delt with
BTW it was not my intention to fuel a flamer.

"This is is not true, and you know it. What you are doing is attempting to use fallacies to steer my position away and poison the well, but it is not going to work. I don't humiliate anyone, they humiliate themselves, and when people are endorsing a government that promotes the murder of innocent people they need to be ridiculed. You want to see ridicule? Ask the Lebenese about the ridicule they see on a daily basis. If a person speaks out against the so -called jews he or she is anti-semetic. If a person endorses the so-called jews he or she is a zionist. If me making comments towards a person who has a HISTORY of being a blind racist (Jomodo) and a person that has attacked the entire black race (YOU), I offer no apologies, but do offer a bit of advice. GET OVER IT (something YOUR PEOPLE have been telling MY PEOPLE for YEARS.)

What fallicies every comment you make about "false jews" is derogatory thats backed up by every post you have ever made on the subject. Your a racist not because you speak out against the evils of israel but because you HATE ALL OF THE PEOPLE YOU CONTEND ARE FALSE JEWS (again backed up by you commentary on the subject) and you consistantly insult them.
How is you calling JoMoDo auchwitz him humiliating himself? Or you referring to jews who you contend fabricated the holocost as big nosed who uses this term to describe them I'll tell you who RACISTS so it makes sence that you would. LOL @ my people. Interestingly enough a good friend of mine is lebanese and he talks shit on israel with me all the time without throwing in any racist overtones.

Ill tell you what why dont you ask god the next time the two of you are having a chat if he thinks you should call jewish people auchwitz.

"No, it is not me, it is you, for you were the one who posted the cut job in the first place. Yes, the article may be applicable to ANY and ALL people in this forum and every forum on a message board where people share ideas, but you (and Jomodo) are the ones spreading misinformation; Jomodo with his false jewish dreams, and you with your insults and open attacks."

Another illustration of your golden rule^
No its you what role in the gambit describes me? Oh none of them your the religious zealot who, propogates ethnic hatred, changes discussions about evils in politics into discussions about religion etc..
The false patriot is a fucking profile of you and as far as I can see no one else here fits it not even close. You cant blend back in with the sheep, wolf.
and your damn right ill openly attack and insult you every time you make a comment trashing a race. I dont care if your talking about full blooded tazmaninans. BTW the only reason you attack the two of us so vigorously is because we are "FALSE JEWS" otherwise we would just warrent a brush off, thats fine with me I have to write reports all this week and it gives me a welcome break.

"Junior, the deal is I don't think I have EVER considered you intelligent or anything bearing a resemblance to such. Here it is I make a statement about white men with big noses (which is often used to signify some of the false jews) and Auschwitz, but you somehow imply that it is the same as saying all jews are evil or money hungry bankers. LMAO! Son, give it up. You can call me a racist all you wan't BUT you have to remember several things:

1. You are the guilty party here for you attacked all black people.

2. And this is the most important...IF I am a being a dick because you called me a racist what can YOU do about it? Nothing? Good job, sport. See, I can tell the difference between a parody and commentary, but you were openly attacking black people, and I have the right to attack you back. Deal with it, son. Stop being "ha ha funny guy" for a single day of your life and learn some respect. If you don't people like me WILL humiliate so-called jews such as yourself, and you should be THANKFUL that I'm not one of those guys who would fuck you up on GP just for being a so-called jew. If you want ME to be serious and not make insults YOU need to be serious. This is no laughing matter here, junior, and while you are pretending to be the stand up comedian people are dying on BOTH sides of this war. So, if you want me to play fair and show an ounce of dignity, YOU need to show the same respect. If not, I will bring it to you everytime, and you will make an issue EVERYTIME I DO IT."

Who cares what you think chief your opinion is noise. What university is your masters degree from? As far as it being the same its in the same line of thinking the same JEWS ARE CONSPIRING to rule the world mentallity its basically an endorsement of 2000 years of persecution.

#1 im only guilty of clowning on black israelites
#2 I can be a bigger dick right back LOL at me being lucky that you aren't the kind of racist that gets physical. That would be some funny shit. The only person here calling me a so-called jew is you I have never claimed to be a jew Other people claim im a jew such as your idol hitler but to me im just a person who is 1/16 jewish. As far as me cracking jokes about the murder of innocent lebanese thats just another of your lies. You dont have an ounce of dignity to show your just another racist moron blameing everyone but yourself for your shitty little life. I dont make it an issue it is an issue called "SHUT YOUR RACIST ASS UP" and belive Ill be here to put you in check everytime you come out of your mouth with that tired old propoganda.


"f, I were racist against jews, or showed discrimination against jews you would be the first to know it. However, I am not racist against them nor am I discriminating against them. However, what you WILL see me stating is what I have stated in this thread.

Israel SHOULD be given to THE REAL HEBREWS (whomever they may be.) What you WILL see me saying is the PROMISED LAND was going to be ARGETINA or UGANDA if the plan were carried out. What you WILL see me saying is ISRAEL does have a right to exist, but that the current state is in violation and has violated it's own agreement.

I am openly for a HEBREW state. I am NOT for a WHITE/EUROPEAN state that BUTCHERS arabs, has ENSLAVED Afrikans (yes jews were involved in the slave trade) and continues to promote racism under the veil of religion, zionism, and self preservation.

Einstein, my position is as CLEAR AS DAY, and if you don't comprehend it, I don't know what to tell you. Do the so-called jews have a right to exist? Sure, they have the right to exist, live in freedom, make money, provide for their families, practice their religion of choice and do everything under the sun,but when they do it with evil intentions, murder the innocent, steal from the poor and justify it in the name of God, religion, or peace I have a problem with it."

It is clear as day and I do know it. You are racist against jews and you do discriminate against jews and you use the things you claim you are only stateing as justification for your hatered.

So SIR ISACC NEWTON your derogitory commentary on the jews makes it clear that you do not think "they have the right to exist, live in freedom, make money, provide for their families, practice their religion of choice and do everything under the sun" because you think all jews are shitty and worthless thats why you make comments like "God Bless Hitler" and think its funny your little stand up act would probably be a hit at an aryan nation rally but not in here.

 

[JoMoDo]

“
Wrong, and stop poisoning the well. You are using several fallacies to spread misinformation and taint my evidence (thus causing people to believe you) OR you want me to tell you what I have. Sorry, Auschwitz it ain't gonna happen. I'll post it when I am good and ready.”

The information is accurate, you just misinterperet it. Generally I would abandon a thread after being called Auschwitz (as I did a previous thread where some nimrod said Achtun Juden), however, for now, I’ll continue to entertain…

“However, since you did mention it:

http://www.karaite-korner.org/main.shtml

http://www.come-and-hear.com/talmud/finkelstein.html

BOTH of these confirm what I have previously stated in the past.”

I’ve mentioned Karaites as well, in previous posts you’ve called them faux- now what, a sudden change of heart….They follow the torah but reject the Talmud, they are predominately of Egyptian descent and there are currently about 50,000 worldwide…what’s your point?

The second link seems to back up my perspective, thanks for the great link…

“This guy appears to make it seem as if it is a simple extension or oral tradition but that is NOT the case. MANY of the rites have changed, many of the scriptures are interpreted different etc. It is simply not an "oral tradition" as this human is making it out to be.”

Holy crap, you mean we no longer have animal sacrifices, and other rituals have been modified as well, maybe this is due to assimilation caused by the diaspora… The oral history discription is an elementary explaination, no duh---- The Talmud is a compliation of thousands of books that have been constantly updated, debated, interpreted and reinterpreted over time----


“When the Faux Jew refers to "IDOL" he is implying Yeshua (but we both know he actually meant to type Hitler.)”

What the blasphemer is impling is that he IDOLIZES Hitler more the Jesus…

“If they executed Yeshua, (which they did) the blood is on their hands. That has nothing to do with my sentiments towards Jews.”

Well, not nothing, but probably something…

“ Do you see me saying "all jews are evil" or all jews are money hungry bankers"? NO! You accused me of the latter“

I never accused you of this, however this Freudian Slip demonstrates your true mentality…

“(yes jews were involved in the slave trade) ”

A little off topic, but yes Jew’s were involved in small fractional proportions----however, they were’re nearly as involved as Gentiles or the Africans who captured and sold them…. Bottom line, FUCK anyone involved in the trading no doubt…


“I doubt a honest bone exists in your body, but if it did it is obvious that you have broken it a LONG time ago. The protocols of zion (rather real or fake) have nothing to do with this, and you asking is simply a ploy to see where I am coming from.”

I don’t need a ploy to see where you’re coming from, it is quite obvious---


“
Stop allowing fallacies to dictate your arguments and just accept the fact that you (just like many people on the planet) don't know where the hell you come from.”

In fact I do, we ALL come from and are a part of the same ONE

Somewhere else in this thread you called me a blind racist---you can not provide any evidence that supports this, because it is 100% false and an exact contrary to my character.

If you feel I am racist b/c I support the current state of Israel’s right to exist , I wonder how you get from A to B.

I firmly believe in equal rights for everyone, I just don't know how to get there...

 

[HERESY]

It may not make sence to you because your monsterous ego won't let you accept fault but rest assured that it makes sence tiger. You sound like a little kid talking about bringing it and shit.

No, I sound more like the rock, and I would sound even more like him if I remind you of the verbbal smack down I'm laying on your candy ass! The point is junior, if you steer the convo into a certain place I WILL play by your rules, but when I do you shouldn't get upset.

What part of my comment is disrespectful to black people?

Do you HONESTLY not see a problem with what you did? My friend, someone asked me about real hebrews/jews and what do YOU do? You go and make the claim that, "real jews are black people", and you do it in a mocking and sarcastic way. If I were not black would you have done that? NO! If I had made no mention of the ethiopian jews would you have done that? NO!

Again, you were disrepecting black people, you thought it was funny and you thought no one would pick up on it, but I picked up on it and I replied without actually calling you on it until YOU played the "victim" role in all of this.

Black Isrealites claim all black people are jews I said LOL look the jews are black people with a link to their site

You dummy, it isn't even a link to "THEIR SITE", the link you posted is a link to a site who's "mission is to study destructive cults, controversial groups and movements and to provide a broad range of information and services easily accessible to the public for assistance and educational purposes."

So, with that being said, you didn't link ANYONE to a site that talked about the Black Israelites in a positive manner. You linked us to a site that speaks about them in a NEGATIVE tone. What you did was VERY SIMILAR to the immigration thread where someone posted pictures of Afrikans and said "ha ha thats what Heresy is."

Black Isrealites claim all black people are jews

I know I just quoted this but you are MISINFORMED. For starters a unified "black hebrew" movement/religion does NOT exist. You have a certain sect that has only apprx 3000 - 4000 members and they believe that they themselves are descendents of the hebrews and NOT the entire black race. :dead:

to anyone with anykind of intellegence this is making fun of black Isrealites

To anyone with any kind of intelligence it is a direct attack. Someone asked about real hebrews and here you go posting a link to a picture with a black Israelite. No one said anything about this sect/movement until YOU mentioned them, and by mentioning them you were attempting to ridicule not only them but the rest of the black population. Why else would you mention them? They had never been mentioned before, you didn't give ANY info as to why you were doing it, etc.

but to YOU it is making fun of all black people, this is because here just like in the majority of every other discussion you are involved in you are assbackwards.

No member of this board would even attempt to ponder such an incredulous claim.

You took it as a direct attack on black people because you can't discriminate between parody and commentary.

First of all, why would i need to discriminate between them? That doesn't make any sense. Do you mean discern or differentiate? Again, we have no need for "ha ha funny guy" type antics here, and when you make them I'll simply do the same if I am in the mood. Again, I felt your words were a direct attack, you claim they were not, but you will never get me to believe you. THIS WILL NOT CHANGE.

A symptom of idiocy.

As idiotic as trying to discriminate between parody and commentary. :dead:

My friend, you are NOT intelligent. I am sorry that I have to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't. You aren't making ANY sense, and you are typing mumbo jumbo. Please, for the sake of perserving what little fecal matter you may have for "brains", why don't you just sit back and be quiet.

Its been delt with
BTW it was not my intention to fuel a flamer.

I know its been "dealt with", and it has been "dealt with" ever since I made MY reply.

What fallicies every comment you make about "false jews" is derogatory thats backed up by every post you have ever made on the subject.

No, and once again your words don't make any sense. I have addressed this issue SEVERAL times on this board, and I try to keep it on the up and up until people like you and Jomodo make feeble attempts at putting me on blast. Saying you disagree is one thing. I can live with that because we all have disagreements, but coming out the woodworks and trying to front someone off will not be tolerated by, H.

Not every statement I make about the so called jews is derogatory, but if I did make a derogatory comment I have a reason for it, and I'll give an account for my actions IF I am required to. However, YOU are NOT the person I have to answer to, so you'll NEVER have to worry about that.

Your a racist not because you speak out against the evils of israel but because you HATE ALL OF THE PEOPLE YOU CONTEND ARE FALSE JEWS (again backed up by you commentary on the subject) and you consistantly insult them.

Another claim that cannot be verified by the examination of any of my posts, nor can it be validated by independent studies. Again, no one hates all the people that I believe are false jews. I have learned from these people, have actually studied with these people, and the ones out here who I speak with know my position on the subject. We agree to disagree, and we leave it alone, but if someone is going to bash the entire black race as you did, I am going to lash back IF I choose to, and if you weren't always trying to come off as a comedian I most likely would have ignored your blatent stupidity.

How is you calling JoMoDo auchwitz him humiliating himself?

How is this applicable to what I said about so called jews humiliating themselves? Maybe if Jomodo had never stuck his foot in his mouth by typing, "Is it b/c the role the Pharasiees played in regard to the execution of your IDOL" I would have never made the remark I did. The point is HE was making a DIRECT attack on ME and what I believe in, so I responded in like manner.

People like you have a HISTORY of professing the be the victim. Victimization is something you seek to exploit, but here it is I am simply using the same rules of engagement you and your buddy have used and now you want to make an issue of it. DEAL WITH IT.

Or you referring to jews who you contend fabricated the holocost as big nosed who uses this term to describe them I'll tell you who RACISTS so it makes sence that you would.

I can't make heads or tails of this. Please, go back, correct the typos and restate your position. You don't make ANY sense right now.

LOL @ my people. Interestingly enough a good friend of mine is lebanese and he talks shit on israel with me all the time without throwing in any racist overtones.

So? But YOU just threw in a racial overtone with me and I responded in like manner. I'll lay it out flat for you. When someone attacks me personally, I will NOT pull any punches, nor will I hold back IF I choose to reply. If you throw a rock at me I will throw EVERYTHING at you INCLUDING the kitchen sink. You, like many people on this site, are the type of people who poke fun at people, but when someone does it back you cry crocodile tears and yell "racism!"

If you shove someone to the ground and they get back up and stomp your teeth down your throat is it fair to say "well I only pushed you I didn't punch you and stomp your head in"? No, yet that is what people like you do, and when people like me bring it to you you're quick to cry and complain.

Ill tell you what why dont you ask god the next time the two of you are having a chat if he thinks you should call jewish people auchwitz.

Why would he mind, people like you have denied your maker. Next time you meet with Rabbi Steinberg, why don't you ask him if it is ok to ridicule black people and people who claim to be followers of Judaism.

Another illustration of your golden rule^
No its you what role in the gambit describes me? Oh none of them your the religious zealot who, propogates ethnic hatred, changes discussions about evils in politics into discussions about religion etc..

This topic would have gone to religion ANYWAY because RELIGION is the reason why they claim they SHOULD be entitled to the land. If you want, YOU can EASILY make a thread and we can take everything to that thread, and that way this thread can remain the way you wish...but hell no. I have a right to speak out against the evils of the so-called jews and you have the right to refute it. No one is propogating ethnic hatred, no one is claiming all so called jews are this or that. You can call me a religious zealot, but have I ever told anyone on this site to follow me or what I believe in? No? LMAO!!!!!! Another claim of yours DOWN THE TOILET.

The false patriot is a fucking profile of you and as far as I can see no one else here fits it not even close. You cant blend back in with the sheep, wolf.

And the faux jew is a profile of you, and as far as I see only two people here fit that description. See, you can make a post full of goobly gook, but the fact is YOU don't understand ANYTHING remotely related to what you even posted. Have you taken any classes pertaining to human behavior? Read any books pertaining to the subject? Have you researched what you posted and researched why it was originally conducted? No, the only thing you are saying is "this applies to you", but the fact is NO ONE besides YOURSELF even cares about it.

and your damn right ill openly attack and insult you every time you make a comment trashing a race.

Bring it!!!!!! LMAO!!!!! Do you think I care? Listen, YOU and your buddy are the ones who are trying to take charge, so I'm game for whatever.

I dont care if your talking about full blooded tazmaninans. BTW the only reason you attack the two of us so vigorously is because we are "FALSE JEWS" otherwise we would just warrent a brush off, thats fine with me I have to write reports all this week and it gives me a welcome break.

Young moe is a JEW. He and I talk. He knows my position regarding this manner. Do he and I have issues? NO. why? Because he is respectful. Jomodo has NEVER been respectful, and neither have you. Do you think I am not going to return fire when you attacked all blacks? So, if you want to be the defender of all humanity against Heresy and his so-called racist comments go ahead.

Who cares what you think chief your opinion is noise.

Obviously YOU care because you made an issue of my comments and are now replying!!! LMAO!!! And, I thank you for calling me chief because it shows that I am in a higher position than you. While I cannot return the favor, I can designate you as peasent, commoner, servent, trooper or regular. Go ahead and pick one just make sure you leave a couple for Jomodo.

What university is your masters degree from?

The same one yours is from.

As far as it being the same its in the same line of thinking the same JEWS ARE CONSPIRING to rule the world mentallity its basically an endorsement of 2000 years of persecution.

Yeah, it would be but too bad I don't believe the "jews are conspiring" propaganda. I believe the so called jews are being manipulated to further the agenda of others and that the manipulators do not have their best interest in mind. Again, your claims are washed away!!!!

#1 im only guilty of clowning on black israelites

Why would you even bring them up? Here it is I am a black man and I am talking about the mistreatment of the ethiopian jews and how the so called jews are not entitled to the land, yet you are posting up links to websites that place the black jews in a negative light and you mention black people. YOU WERE MAKING AN ATTACK AGAINST ALL BLACKS.

#2 I can be a bigger dick right back LOL at me being lucky that you aren't the kind of racist that gets physical.

Son, it is not a laughing matter. Here it is I am telling you that you need to be thankful and you think it is a laughing matter. You better hope the REAL jew haters don't ever get a hold of your ass because they will show no mercy on you.

That would be some funny shit.

What, if I were a jew hater and I beat your skull into thousands of pieces? Yes, that WOULD be funny if I were sadistic and had no compassion for people such as yourself.

The only person here calling me a so-called jew is you I have never claimed to be a jew Other people claim im a jew such as your idol hitler but to me im just a person who is 1/16 jewish

Rx, you are going to sit here and say that you have NEVER claimed to be a jew and that you have always said "I am 1/6 jewish"? LMAO!!!! And, lol@Hitler being my idol. Sure pal, hitler is my idol, yet you don't see me calling for the OPEN DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL like MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE DONE. You don't see me saying to gas all jews (although gassing you would be a treat), but you don't see me turning a blind eye to the crimes commited by the so called jews either.

As far as me cracking jokes about the murder of innocent lebanese thats just another of your lies.

I never made the claim that you did. What I am claiming is that this is a serious war, this is a serious thread, and you were trying to insult the black race and a black movement by trying to post links and be a comedian. Get it straight junior, and stop trying to misconstrue what I have stated.

You dont have an ounce of dignity to show your just another racist moron blameing everyone but yourself for your shitty little life.

Another unfounded claim.

I dont make it an issue it is an issue called "SHUT YOUR RACIST ASS UP" and belive Ill be here to put you in check everytime you come out of your mouth with that tired old propoganda.

1. Can you make me shutup? No??? LMAO!!! The ONLY thing you can do is get on this board and run back and fourth with me. YOU are the racist and God hater here (just like Jomodo), and I will bring it to the false jew everytime. If you want to have a civil discussion, that is possible, but the truth is you don't want to, so I'll play hardball.

LMAO@ putting me in check, Now if I would say you putting me in check is far fecthed, but me putting you in check is almost as bad as Nazis putting jews in easy bake ovens you'll probably have a heart attack. Child, you do not have the ability to match wits with me. Seriously, you want me to make a lot of racial comments, but I saw through your tactic as soon as I saw you making an issue of my response. You are calling me a racist. BIG DEAL. I am calling you agod hater, a racist, a moron, an idiot, a false jew, and could probably list a gazillion more things I think you are (but don't have the time to type.)

It is clear as day and I do know it. You are racist against jews and you do discriminate against jews and you use the things you claim you are only stateing as justification for your hatered.

This makes no sense at all, boy. Please correct the typos and restate your claim.

So SIR ISACC NEWTON your derogitory commentary on the jews makes it clear that you do not think "they have the right to exist, live in freedom, make money, provide for their families, practice their religion of choice and do everything under the sun" because you think all jews are shitty and worthless thats why you make comments like "God Bless Hitler" and think its funny your little stand up act would probably be a hit at an aryan nation rally but not in here.

God bless hitler? LMAO!!!!!! Where did THAT come from????????? ROFL! No, I do not think all jews are worthless and shitty. Man, I don't even believe YOU are worthless and shitty...well...actually I do believe you are worthless and shitty, but the point is you are, I'm not, MANY or even MOST so-called jews aren't but it just so happens that many endorse the killings of innocent people.

See ya sport!!!

 

[HERESY]

The information is accurate, you just misinterperet it.

No, your information is not accurate and YOU misinterpret it and my info.

Generally I would abandon a thread after being called Auschwitz (as I did a previous thread where some nimrod said Achtun Juden), however, for now, I’ll continue to entertain…

Jomodo, I don't care if you abandon this thread or stay until the 1,000th post is made. You leaving or staying is of little concern, but when YOU make statements like, "Is it b/c the role the Pharasiees played in regard to the execution of your IDOL" you are opening the doors for personal attacks, and if I decide to retaliate I will not pull any punches. I'm not the type of person that pushes back when I am pushed. You push me OR come within range expect to get knocked out like your father used to and have your teeth kicked down your mouth. That is the type of person I AM.

So, when you talk about the EXECUTION of my so-called idol, some where along the way, I'll talk about EXECUTION relevant to YOU and what YOU believe in.

I’ve mentioned Karaites as well, in previous posts you’ve called them faux

When did you mention them? I did a search for them in this forum and the only thread that popped up was this one. Can you link me to these alleged posts of yours or can you quote me calling them faux? If I called them faux in regards to their bloodline what does that have to do with me talking about what RELIGION they follow? Again, I don't remember your post, I don't remember you making the claim, I don't even remember them being mentioned or linked (until I did it.)

now what, a sudden change of heart

Again, provide the proof so I can reconcile any misconceptions you may have.

They follow the torah but reject the Talmud, they are predominately of Egyptian descent and there are currently about 50,000 worldwide…what’s your point?

The point is these are people who practice Judaism and REJECT talmudism, you said it was "jive B.S.", yet you yourself admit to these people 50,000 in number, so it is not as if I am the only one who states this. Also, what difference does it make if 50 people reject it or if 50,000 reject it? The fact is some jews DO reject it, and it was not some theory or claim that I made up out of thin air. Now, what does being of egyptian descent have to do with anything? What is your point?

The second link seems to back up my perspective, thanks for the great link…

Actually, when you read it it backs my previous suggestion to research Pharisaism in order to grasp an understanding of talmudism, and bears no resemblence to your suggestion that someone simply use wikipedia to look up "sanhedrin."

Holy crap, you mean we no longer have animal sacrifices, and other rituals have been modified as well, maybe this is due to assimilation caused by the diaspora…

Sure pal. Assimilation caused by the diaspora.... Yeah, the rites were simply "modified". Listen, cut the crap, be honest for one moment of your life and stop trying to make excuses. You and I both know from rules pertaining to women, to marriage rites, many things have been changed and some have been totally done away with (and this has nothing to do with diaspora.) Stop trying to make it seem as if little tweeks were done here and there because that is not the case.

The oral history discription is an elementary explaination, no duh---- The Talmud is a compliation of thousands of books that have been constantly updated, debated, interpreted and reinterpreted over time----

(Bold emphasis mine)

Thanks for proving my point! :knockout:

What the blasphemer is impling is that he IDOLIZES Hitler more the Jesus…

What the chozzer is implying is that he admits to being a draykop, but can never stop IDOLIZING me!!!!

Well, not nothing, but probably something…

Another unfounded claim that went down the drain as soon as I showed you how stupid it was. Again, my views have NOTHING to do with Yeshi being crucified. Do you see me saying "The jews who butchered Jesus" everytime we discuss this, or do you see me constantly bringing it up? NO! What you DO see me brining up is the mistreatment of the people in the area at the hands of the so called jews, but even when I remind you of teh present mistreatment, I don't call for them to be wiped from the face of the earth. Why? because they are still HUMAN BEINGS, but at the same time others do have a right to defend themselves.

I never accused you of this, however this Freudian Slip demonstrates your true mentality…

First you tried to imply that I was somehow connecting a certain rothschild with all jews and judaism. After that you make a false allegation that I "infer that the Rothchilds are the ugly money grubbing bankers who dominate world finances and concoted this plan to create an independent state."

After reading the madness I drop this on you:

Please answer the question. Who said the Rothschilds embodied or personified Jews or Judaism as a whole? In this topic/thread can you show me where I have said/inferred that the Rothschilds (PLURAL) are ugly money grubbing bankers who dominate the worlds finances?

Your response?

In this thread I can’t.

:dead:

See, when you mentioned jews and judaism as a whole you opened up a can of worms. IF I were stating the rothschilds personofied all jews and judaism, and that rothschilds were ugly money hungry bankers (something I never did)that would mean I am stating all jews are money hungry bankers, for the rothschilds would have been a representation of all jews. :dead:

And here is your accusation:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=183524&page=3

A little off topic, but yes Jew’s were involved in small fractional proportions----however, they were’re nearly as involved as Gentiles or the Africans who captured and sold them…. Bottom line, FUCK anyone involved in the trading no doubt…

Actually, it is not off topic because we are talking about a group of people who are often protrayed as victims, yet they have mistreated my people and continue to mistreat people who do not look like them or have a different form of culture than they.

Also, I would like to remind you that not ONE ship owned by Afrikans were used as transport ships to transport slaves to europe, north america and south america. Can we say the same for the so-called jews? No.

Not ONE Afrikan country has benefited from the slave trade in a positive way, but can we say the same for the so-called jews in south america? NO!

In the future, DON'T make it seem as if afrikans had more involvement than the jews, because I'll really expose your stupidity and cite so much evidence I'll break my current record for longest post ever.

I don’t need a ploy to see where you’re coming from, it is quite obvious---

Sure, next you'll go off and accuse me of something else without any evidence to support your claim (like you usually do.)

In fact I do, we ALL come from and are a part of the same ONE

No, and if you actually believe this, you would stop making excuses for murderers who kill innocents.

Somewhere else in this thread you called me a blind racist---you can not provide any evidence that supports this, because it is 100% false and an exact contrary to my character.

You are a blind racist my friend. A blind racist is someone who doesn't know he is racist or doesn't intend to be racist, but this is what you are. You endorse the racist zionist ideaology, you endorse the mistreatment of palastinians, and you cite racist identity movements as evidence that europeans are the real hebrews, and you have openly endorsed the destruction of the Lebanese infrastructure.

If you feel I am racist b/c I support the current state of Israel’s right to exist , I wonder how you get from A to B.

No, you are not a racist for supporting the current state of israles right to exist. You are a blind racist for supporting the destruction of life in the region. Two troops come up kidnapped/captured (where they were captured has been debated) and now over 1100 people are dead and over one million people are displaced. This is the type of action you lust for and the type of action you endorse.

I firmly believe in equal rights for everyone, I just don't know how to get there...

Sure...um hmmm....yeah right...

 

[JoMoDo]

&#8220;Jomodo, I don't care if you abandon this thread or stay until the 1,000th post is made. You leaving or staying is of little concern, but when YOU make statements like, "Is it b/c the role the Pharasiees played in regard to the execution of your IDOL" you are opening the doors for personal attacks, and if I decide to retaliate I will not pull any punches. I'm not the type of person that pushes back when I am pushed. You push me OR come within range expect to get knocked out like your father used to and have your teeth kicked down your mouth. That is the type of person I AM.

So, when you talk about the EXECUTION of my so-called idol, some where along
the way, I'll talk about EXECUTION relevant to YOU and what YOU believe in.&#8221;

So when you make comments like &#8216;the faux jew rears his ugly head agan&#8217; or something along those lines, that&#8217;s is not opening the door to personal insults? C&#8217;mon man, at least hold your self to the same standards&#8230;

When did you mention them? I did a search for them in this forum and the only thread that popped up was this one. Can you link me to these alleged posts of yours or can you quote me calling them faux? If I called them faux in regards to their bloodline what does that have to do with me talking about what RELIGION they follow? Again, I don't remember your post, I don't remember you making the claim, I don't even remember them being mentioned or linked (until I did it.)

You&#8217;re right, I never posted about them in this forum, believe it or not, I meant to mention them in our other thread that was abandoned&#8230;.

The point is these are people who practice Judaism and REJECT talmudism, you said it was "jive B.S.", yet you yourself admit to these people 50,000 in number, so it is not as if I am the only one who states this. Also, what difference does it make if 50 people reject it or if 50,000 reject it? The fact is some jews DO reject it, and it was not some theory or claim that I made up out of thin air. Now, what does being of egyptian descent have to do with anything? What is your point?

There are also some Jews who accept some parts of the Talmud and reject others&#8230; The fact that they are Egyptian prove that there are many types of jews from many different nationalities and ethnic backgrounds and many variations of the Ashkenazi/Sephardic/ Persian/African Jewish faith, Orthodox, Conservative, reform, ultra-orthodox, conservadox, karate&#8230;.


[/Quote=H]
Actually, when you read it it backs my previous suggestion to research Pharisaism in order to grasp an understanding of talmudism, and bears no resemblence to your suggestion that someone simply use wikipedia to look up "sanhedrin." [/Quote]

Doing some elementary research on the sandedrin does a better job of understanding the root of the Talmud, all the way back to the days of Moshe--- through today

[/Quote=H]
Sure pal. Assimilation caused by the diaspora....&#65532; Yeah, the rites were simply "modified". Listen, cut the crap, be honest for one moment of your life and stop trying to make excuses. You and I both know from rules pertaining to women, to marriage rites, many things have been changed and some have been totally done away with (and this has nothing to do with diaspora.) Stop trying to make it seem as if little tweeks were done here and there because that is not the case. [/Quote]

At least we&#8217;re back to bein&#8217; pals, it sure seemed to get hostile a bit earlier&#8230; Traditions change with time & culture due to assimilation caused by the diaspora&#8230;

[/Quote=H]
What the chozzer is implying is that he admits to being a draykop, but can never stop IDOLIZING me!!!!
[/Quote]

Nice yiddush, been dyin&#8217; for a chance to use them huh?




&#8220;Actually, it is not off topic because we are talking about a group of people who are often protrayed as victims, yet they have mistreated my people and continue to mistreat people who do not look like them or have a different form of culture than they. &#8220;

Also, I would like to remind you that not ONE ship owned by Afrikans were used as transport ships to transport slaves to europe, north america and south america. Can we say the same for the so-called jews? No.

Not ONE Afrikan country has benefited from the slave trade in a positive way, but can we say the same for the so-called jews in south america? NO!

In the future, DON'T make it seem as if afrikans had more involvement than the jews, because I'll really expose your stupidity and cite so much evidence I'll break my current record for longest post ever.&#8221;

You are talking about a fractional minority group individuals and using them to personify an entire culture&#8230;.


&#8220;No, and if you actually believe this, you would stop making excuses for murderers who kill innocents.&#8221;

No my heart goes out to any and all innocent victims&#8230;


&#8220;You are a blind racist my friend. A blind racist is someone who doesn't know he is racist or doesn't intend to be racist, but this is what you are. You endorse the racist zionist ideaology, you endorse the mistreatment of palastinians, and you cite racist identity movements as evidence that europeans are the real hebrews, and you have openly endorsed the destruction of the Lebanese infrastructure. &#8220;

I do not endorse the mistreatment of any human beings, the Palestinians should have their own soverign state (unfortunately their leadership has prevented this numerous times through out the last 50 years, and as long as they have the all or nothing mentality, they will be stuck with the latter), again I endore Israel&#8217;s right to exist, I do NOT agree with EVERYTHING about Zionism, any extreme position is just that extreme&#8230;, in regard to the the Lebanese infrastructure, I&#8217;d say it is Hizbolla who actually endorses it&#8217;s destruction&#8230;

 

[HERESY]

So when you make comments like &#8216;the faux jew rears his ugly head agan&#8217; or something along those lines, that&#8217;s is not opening the door to personal insults? C&#8217;mon man, at least hold your self to the same standards&#8230;

Not when you quote me (say WRONG) and mention Sammy Davis Jr (a self proclaimed Jew) in the fashion you did. See, you have already sown the seeds of discord, and again it is comments like those (the little sly ones) that I pick up on but others are afriad to point out. See, you believe in the identity movements (you've posted links to their sites several times), so DON'T expect me to believe you were not making fun of a BLACK MAN who claimed to be a "jew."

You&#8217;re right, I never posted about them in this forum, believe it or not, I meant to mention them in our other thread that was abandoned&#8230;.

Another one of your claims down the toilet.

There are also some Jews who accept some parts of the Talmud and reject others&#8230; The fact that they are Egyptian prove that there are many types of jews from many different nationalities and ethnic backgrounds and many variations of the Ashkenazi/Sephardic/ Persian/African Jewish faith, Orthodox, Conservative, reform, ultra-orthodox, conservadox, karate&#8230;.

(bold emphasis mine)

Now you are starting to actually get what I am saying.

Doing some elementary research on the sandedrin does a better job of understanding the root of the Talmud, all the way back to the days of Moshe--- through today

I disagree, but whatever.

At least we&#8217;re back to bein&#8217; pals, it sure seemed to get hostile a bit earlier&#8230; Traditions change with time & culture due to assimilation caused by the diaspora&#8230;

I don't think we were ever pals or enemies....I think I "tolerate" you to some extent, but don't start getting mushy on me.:dead:

Nice yiddush, been dyin&#8217; for a chance to use them huh?

You should have saw what I really had lined up for you.

You are talking about a fractional minority group individuals and using them to personify an entire culture&#8230;.

:sighs: Come one man are you REALLY going to sit here and act as if the majority of the jewish population in south america did not benefit from the slave trade? Are you going to claim that the majority of euro jews did not benefit? No one is claiming ALL of them owned ships or were involved, but they DID own ships, but Afrikans did NOT, and as a result they STILL benefit from this.

No my heart goes out to any and all innocent victims&#8230;

I don't know whats in your heart, and maybe you do. Normally I would have just said "Sure..."

I do not endorse the mistreatment of any human beings, the Palestinians should have their own soverign state (unfortunately their leadership has prevented this numerous times through out the last 50 years, and as long as they have the all or nothing mentality, they will be stuck with the latter), again I endore Israel&#8217;s right to exist, I do NOT agree with EVERYTHING about Zionism, any extreme position is just that extreme&#8230;, in regard to the the Lebanese infrastructure, I&#8217;d say it is Hizbolla who actually endorses it&#8217;s destruction&#8230;

Jomodo do you HONESTLY believe this?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

As if it wasn't obvious (I wouldn't post this but there are at least two people that refuse to accept common sense)...


Olmert 'planned Lebanon war before soldiers' kidnap'
Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:19:06 -0800

Olmert also defended the much criticised expansion of the ground invasion in the last 48 hours of the war after the UN had agreed on a ceasefire

Ehud Olmert&#8217;s decision to go to war in Lebanon in response to abductions of soldiers was taken as early as March 2006, according to a leak of his evidence to the commission investigating the war.

The report means that the military strategy was decided more than three months before it was triggered by Hizbollah&#8217;s abductions of two soldiers on Israel&#8217;s northern border in July. Israeli officials said this was broadly in line with what the Prime Minister has already told the cabinet.

Mr Olmert partly used his appearance two weeks ago before the Winograd Commission to defend himself against charges that the government stumbled unprepared into the five-week war.

But the report will fuel claims by some international critics of the operation that Israel, and perhaps the US, had for some time decided in favour of a military confrontation with the Lebanese group.

The report, in Haaretz, also suggests that Mr Olmert was told in May that Lebanon was ready to enforce UN resolution 1559, which prescribed the disarming of Hizbollah in return for withdrawal from Shaba Farms, the border zone occupied by Israel which is projected as a casus belli by Hizbollah, but which is also claimed by Syria.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2341366.ece

*** Also, the Israeli military said last night it was looking into a report by the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem that it [The Israeli military] used an 11-year-old girl, a 15-year-old boy and a 24-year-old man as "human shields" while searching for gunmen in its sweep of Nablus last month.