Lebanon Or Israel: The Official Debate Thread

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Who Do You Choose?

  • Israel

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Lebanon

    Votes: 22 75.9%

  • Total voters
    29

HERESY

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#21
Again, the faux-jew rears his ugly head. He has been refuted MANY times now, but now he comes with weblinks and madness.

However, since he has failed to address my last reponse directed to him (he said he would reply and never did) I am reluctant to expose his lies and misinformation once again.

Maybe I'll destroy your post tommorow (I have bibliographies, books and weblinks to dispute every page you just posted) or maybe I'll let it stay up for another day or two. Maybe even a month, but rest assured, your post will be refuted just like all your other posts were refuted.

Also, I like how you mention ethiopia and sammy but we both know only 300 or so ethiopian jews are allowed in Israel each year, and we both know they are at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to jobs and economics.
 
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#23
I also (last year) was dating a lebanese girl. She was from there, and before the went back told me how Lebanon is much better than the US.

I think mainly its sort of lopsided to bomb a country full of people killing way to many innocent lives with war planes when so far what like 20 people or less died from the 'terrorists' rockets launced against isreal
 

Stealth

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#25
I think if this topic was brought up a month ago, I would have said Israel. But after everything I've learned from not only this forum, but also from my own research, Id have to choose Lebanon.

Although...I don't think its as easy as saying I am "For Lebanon" or "For Israel". There should be more choices.
 
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HERESY said:
However, since he has failed to address my last reponse directed to him (he said he would reply and never did) I am reluctant to expose his lies and misinformation once again.

I had a ton of personal iShhh that I had to deal with and deviated away from being able to focus as much attention as I would have liked to on these boards... however, if you know the old thread, if you can kindly direct me to the link I'd be obliged to respond in the next day or so (or two)...
 

HERESY

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^^ No, need to answer it now as it will deter from me butchering you again. Thankyou for the offer, but I'll stick to this thread. Now, I'm deciding on when I want to refute your claim.....all info is ready, i just haven't decided on when I'll knock your position down.
 

HERESY

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#31
@ RX Whenever I fell like posting it.

@Jomodo I torture and butcher you in posts. I always have you back-peddling, going back making corrections and basically saying "I said this but I should have said that"

You'll do it again in this thread if you actually waste your time trying to refute what I post up.

back @ RX, aren't you one of those faux-jews also?
 
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#32
so is it safe to call this one?

Israel = Loser

1. Didn't get their soldiers back

2. Didn't push Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon

3. Didn't debilitate Hezbollah's "military" so it can no longer harm the people in Israel
 

Hemp

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Deadpool said:
so is it safe to call this one?

Israel = Loser

1. Didn't get their soldiers back

2. Didn't push Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon

3. Didn't debilitate Hezbollah's "military" so it can no longer harm the people in Israel
4. killed 1000 innocent people, and displaced 500000 innocent people
 
May 13, 2002
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#35
Well, I think obviously the loser here is the Lebanese people, based on the 1,200 (mostly civilians) lives lost, the destruction of civilian homes, the devastation to their economy and the environmental consequences, such as the huge oil spill due to Israeli fighter jets bombing oil tankers off the shores of Lebanon.

As far as Hizbullah vs. IDF, I’d say Hizbullah comes out on top the victor (as of right now anyways, this is not over by any means). They held back the worlds 4th most powerful military, they were successful in killing IDF soldiers and minimizing Israeli civilian death (154 dead--117 of them soldiers), they held their ground in Southern Lebanon (Israeli army has not succeeded in removing them from one single village) and not only did they gain popular support from the Lebanese (87% support Hizbullah), they gained world wide support, especially amongst the mid-east. They also remain armed and completely in tact, even their TV station is still broadcasting.

Now if you compare that to what’s going on in Israel, who look defeated, disappointed and are in disbelief. The general public in Israel are very critical and even some Israeli soldiers have voiced criticism, some of whom have come out publicly and said they purposely missed civilian targets, disobeying their orders, based on moral grounds. This shows that even some Israeli troops oppose, or at the very least, questioned the invasion.

And from the top, there are talks about splits in political parties and fierce fighting amongst the politicians in regards as to what went wrong and what is to be done next.

Compare that to the Labenese who are more united then before the invasion.
 
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#37
Heresy, is there any way of distingiuishing who is a false Jew and who is a real Jew/Semetic?

My opinion personally, is that I think only a small percentage of the 20-25 million Jews of today are real Hebrews, DEFINITELY NOT ALL! But how exactly can we tell who is a real Jew, and who isn't? Is there a specific country or region, where the real true Hebrews come from (like Ethiopia or North Africa for example)?

How exactly can you prove who is a real Hebrew and who isn't? Just wanna hear your thoughts...
 
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#39
@H

Great, I make some grammatical errors that impact the context, so I go back and correct it, what cruel torture and butchery…

@BJ_1577

H will probably post some Jive B.S. about how Jews today practice ‘Talmudism’ and not real Judaism, which is actually quite a load full.

Do some research on the Sanhedrin, originally headed by Moses…. Here www.wikipedia.org go type in the Sanhedrin, now can you draw the correlation from the Sanhedrin to the Talmud? Do you understand that todays Talmud is an extenstion/on going oral tradition since biblical times?

I think I have figured out the root of H’s hostility though, Is it b/c the role the Pharasiees played in regard to the execution of your IDOL that you are filled with the same Mel Gibsonish contempt for the Jews of today? I have many times proved the bloodline (thorugh intermarriage, cross breeding, the diaspora, and time, its just a concept you refuse to accept, and despite the bloodline, I again ask, what about the Book of Ruth, I assume she was a faux-Jew as well, at least according to your definition? Also, as a side note honestly, how much have the B.S. protocols helped formulate your contemptuous views?
 
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Oh yeah, and to get back on topic, anyone done any research on how the Lebanesse gov't treats the Palestinians, you might want to, you'll find some interesting stuff...