Killer will not have a better debut than ICP's newest album.

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Will Killer sell better than the Tempest?

  • Yes it will! You're wrong douche bag!

    Votes: 78 83.0%

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    Votes: 16 17.0%
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GKLEPTOG

GKLEPTOG

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#184
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regime_rydah said:
MAN OK...I FUCKIN HATE ICP AND I HATE JUGGALOS BUT ON THE REAL...THEY HAVE A FANBASE FROM HELL...LITERALLY!!! AND THEY MAKE THAT MONEY...but goin back to lyrical shit...um...they arent shit....tech will outsell anything they have put out period....end of story
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Some of you people really don't use your brains. ICP have NEVER once said they are "lyrical genious's" becuase it's obvious they aren't.

They mastered what they do a very long time ago, they are beastin on the independent record label game and have been for a very long time now. You can say ICP "sucks" or whatever the fuck you want but you can't deny they are doing their thing.

You hate Juggalos? Well I'll break it down for you: ALOT of Tech's fans are Juggalos they are the ones who are buying alot of his cd's, alot of his merchandise, alot of them are at his shows. Wether or not you can get it through your heads: ICP's fanbase has helped Tech improve record sales, merch sales amongst other things.

Tech outselling ICP? Maybe on the account of the last album but besides that I don't see it happening anytime soon. Now for further proof here are some OFFICIAL RIAA stats:

THE RINGMASTER-GOLD (9/17/02)-ISLAND
THE RINGMASTER-GOLD (6/07/04)-PSYCHOPATHIC
RIDDLEBOX-GOLD (11/23/99)
GREAT MILENKO-GOLD (5/04//98)
GREAT MILENKO-PLATINUM (4/21/99)
JECKEL BROTHERS-GOLD (1/6/00) -PLATINUM
THE WRAITH-SHANGRI LA-GOLD
THE WRAITH-HELLS PIT-GOLD
FORGOTTEN FRESHNESS-GOLD (9/30/99)
SHOCKUMENTARY-GOLD (7/23/98)
SHOCUMENTARY-PLATINUM (5/21/02)
BIG MONEY HUSTLAS-GOLD (4/4/01)
BIG MONEY HUSTLAS-PLATINUM (6/23/07)
BOOTLEGGED IN LA-GOLD (1/08/03)

Have a good day.

Keep on hatin ICP, Juggalos and whatever else you want.


 
Robby2Slobby

Robby2Slobby

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#189
Jan 2, 2004
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GKLEPTOG said:
Some of you people really don't use your brains. ICP have NEVER once said they are "lyrical genious's" becuase it's obvious they aren't.

They mastered what they do a very long time ago, they are beastin on the independent record label game and have been for a very long time now. You can say ICP "sucks" or whatever the fuck you want but you can't deny they are doing their thing.

You hate Juggalos? Well I'll break it down for you: ALOT of Tech's fans are Juggalos they are the ones who are buying alot of his cd's, alot of his merchandise, alot of them are at his shows. Wether or not you can get it through your heads: ICP's fanbase has helped Tech improve record sales, merch sales amongst other things.

Tech outselling ICP? Maybe on the account of the last album but besides that I don't see it happening anytime soon. Now for further proof here are some OFFICIAL RIAA stats:

THE RINGMASTER-GOLD (9/17/02)-ISLAND
THE RINGMASTER-GOLD (6/07/04)-PSYCHOPATHIC
RIDDLEBOX-GOLD (11/23/99)
GREAT MILENKO-GOLD (5/04//98)
GREAT MILENKO-PLATINUM (4/21/99)
JECKEL BROTHERS-GOLD (1/6/00) -PLATINUM
THE WRAITH-SHANGRI LA-GOLD
THE WRAITH-HELLS PIT-GOLD
FORGOTTEN FRESHNESS-GOLD (9/30/99)
SHOCKUMENTARY-GOLD (7/23/98)
SHOCUMENTARY-PLATINUM (5/21/02)
BIG MONEY HUSTLAS-GOLD (4/4/01)
BIG MONEY HUSTLAS-PLATINUM (6/23/07)
BOOTLEGGED IN LA-GOLD (1/08/03)

Have a good day.

Keep on hatin ICP, Juggalos and whatever else you want.
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Neither of the Wraith albums went gold..

Which is exactly why you have no certified date next to them.

And ICP has never had an Independent CD get certified.. They've had DVDs, but you barely have to sell shit of those to get certified.. Everything else Certifed is through Island or Universal...
 
TaxMan

TaxMan

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#191
Jun 8, 2004
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Let me get this clear. What is the exact reason you guys hate ICP? If its because they suck, then thats fucking stupid.

As for the whole "ICP is the reason Tech hasn't blown up" shit is stupid. I didn't see it hurt Snoop Dogg, Ice T, ODB, 3 6 Mafia (who did all kinds of shit with Psychopathic) and has won a grammy after their work with Psychopathic, Bone Thugz, D12, E40, Kid Rock- The list goes on. All of those people seem to be doing pretty good.
Maybe (before I say this- Tech is my favorite rapper) its Tech or Strange Music's fault for not blowing up. Maybe they're not as great as all of you think they are. Juggalos think Psychopathic is the best shit ever, and none of you agree.
I know a lot of people that think Tech is straight garbage/overrated (non juggalos).


Go ahead and hate Juggalos. Let them stop listening to Tech, then we'll see how many records he sells, or how much money he makes so he can turn it around into another album. He wasn't exactly on the doorstep of Mtv before he hooked up with Psychopathic.
 
KrazeeRDM

KrazeeRDM

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#192
Nov 7, 2006
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#192
^^^^very very very true. i thank juggalos where i'm from cause if it wasnt for them there would be no east coast shows at all. if he ever played the palladium with no juggalos there i think it would be like 5 dudes there and prolly all from this forum aswell lol. ICP/JUGGALO has done alot for tech wether you like it or not. i personally dont like it that much but i atleast show the respect they should have.
 
KirbyDaAlmighty

KirbyDaAlmighty

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#193
May 2, 2007
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Damn straight.

Without Juggalos, Tech's sales would definitely plummet.
You might not like it, but it's the truth.

It's not about who you are fucking around with, as TaxMan said.
It's about what you do to get the word about you out.
It's about who all can relate to the shit, or if not that, about who can feel the shit, and dance to the shit.
 
Robby2Slobby

Robby2Slobby

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Jan 2, 2004
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#196
Not wrong.. Ringmaster only went gold through Island.. i don't know what dude was posting.. Look it up at the RIAA website.

Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
THE GREAT MILENKO Certification Date
05/04/1998 Label
ISLAND
Award Description
GOLD Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
SHOCKUMENTARY Certification Date
07/23/1998 Label
POLYGRAM MUSIC VIDEO
Award Description
GOLD Format
VIDEO LONGFORM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
THE GREAT MILENKO Certification Date
04/21/1999 Label
ISLAND
Award Description
PLATINUM Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
FORGOTTEN FRESHNESS Certification Date
09/30/1999 Label
ISLAND
Award Description
GOLD Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
RIDDLE BOX Certification Date
11/23/1999 Label
ISLAND
Award Description
GOLD Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
THE AMAZING JECKEL BROTHERS Certification Date
01/06/2000 Label
UNIVERSAL MUSIC ENTERPRISES
Award Description
GOLD Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
BIG MONEY HUSTLAS Certification Date
04/04/2001 Label
ISLAND/MERCURY
Award Description
GOLD Format
VIDEO LONGFORM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
SHOCKUMENTARY Certification Date
05/21/2002 Label
POLYGRAM MUSIC VIDEO
Award Description
PLATINUM Format
VIDEO LONGFORM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
BOOTLEGGED IN L.A. Certification Date
10/08/2003 Label
PSYCHOPATHIC RECORDS
Award Description
GOLD Format
VIDEO LONGFORM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
THE RINGMASTER Certification Date
06/07/2004 Label
ISLAND RECORDS
Award Description
GOLD Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
Artist
INSANE CLOWN POSSE Title
THE AMAZING JECKEL BROTHERS Certification Date
05/14/2008 Label
UNIVERSAL MUSIC ENTERPRISES
Award Description
PLATINUM Format
ALBUM Category
GROUP Type
ST
 
Robby2Slobby

Robby2Slobby

Sicc OG
#198
Jan 2, 2004
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#198
Obviously they did something because there shit sold way more then, than it does now..

ICP really hasn't done as much independently as they are credited for...

Psychopathic's never been the biggest independent label or anything near it..
 
identity-x

identity-x

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Aug 26, 2002
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#200
I wonder where ICP would have been sales wise had there note been any hoopla surrounding Disney/Hollywood pulling The Great Milenko.

No doubt they'd sell and have a big following. But it was controversy that put htem on the national map.



Maybe Tech needs some controversy? :D
 
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