Ken Griffey retires

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If you add in the defensive aspect of it and factor in Bonds doing roids...Griffey IS the better player.
lol gtfoh! barry bonds is rockin 7 mvps! 4 of which came in a row! the guy wouldve had a world series ring if it wasnt for that dumbshit dusty baker. griffey never even made it to a world series. like i said griffey is great but there is nothing wrong with coming in 2nd to the greatest of all time. BARRY BONDS!!!FTW!
 
May 9, 2002
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lol gtfoh! barry bonds is rockin 7 mvps!
And? Baseball is a offensive driven award fest...so that says SQUAT about Barry's defense.

4 of which came in a row!
Again, so fuckin what?

the guy wouldve had a world series ring if it wasnt for that dumbshit dusty baker.
Please elobrate.

griffey never even made it to a world series.
And? A baseball team is 9 people + a pitcher. This aint basektball.

like i said griffey is great but there is nothing wrong with coming in 2nd to the greatest of all time. BARRY BONDS!!!FTW!
SO youre just going to DISMISS the ENTIRE fact that BONDS was a DOPER? Did you forget that little fun fact? Griffey also missed some time due to injuries, something steroids would help Barry AVOID.

Griffey was the ALL AROUND better player and didnt need anything to help him achieve it.
 

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Mickey Fallon
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nothings been proven. and who the fuck cares? bonds hit 24 hr's at 43 years old. steroids or not thats fuckin amazing. lets not forget Bonds also had 7 gold gloves and is the only player in MLB history to have 500 hr's and 500 steals.
 

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Mickey Fallon
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Now im not doubting Griffey is one of the best players of our generation. But if u compare Bonds and Griffey's stats Bonds beats him out in EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE CATEGORY. The most ridiculous one, not only just between these two players, but overall, is the amount of walks Bonds got. I think thats one of the biggest travesties in all of sports.


Griffey: 1312 bb's.

Bonds: 2558 bb's. Thats almost double. In-fucking-sane. And bonds only played 300 more games than Griffey. Forget that, Bonds only had 46 total at-bats more than Griffey.
 
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Steroids - It's what helped Bonds achieve what he's achieved.

Pure Heart - It's what helped Griffey.

Get that Barry Bonds talk out of this thread now. You're ruining this thread for one of the greatest of all time.