Honestly I respect the second kids review more than Elliot up there. Ive had problems with Elliot in the past and dislike his close mindedness. I think hes one of the "Jugallo's" that molded my opinion on typical Jugallo behavior. Although a little Metro, the second kid attempted to understand that which he disliked. While Elliot just didnt like it if it wasnt "dark". I think the second kid caught more than some "hardcore" fans catch even after a year or so with CD's. But either way, I rarely care what others opinions of music are. As critics have done nothing but deter me from music I enjoy. Best to just make my own opinion.