u never gonna get email from him. i emailed him about a month ago, three times, inquiring about making a deal to buy a shitload of those 4 packs. he didnt email me back once, what a trick. i guess he didnt want my money. oh well, since i found out they are pressed CD-Rs in one jewel case i figured its cheaper for me to burn them. thanks anyway jt, some businessman u are.