John Brown vs. Dutch (what's the deal ?)

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what dutch is trying to tell us...is that John Brown gave the northern cali white rap artist a bad name...everyone in the nation will think white boys from northern cali are like him..when in reality they're not...there's some dope white mc's from the bay that are underground as well....
 
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Mayor of Tracy said:
I didn't like the show because they didn't show any love for Cali what so ever period.

well the show wasn't about cali..it was about some white kids trying to make it in the hip hop game....
 
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DUTCH-F.E said:
i dont rock no white rag. im from cali. i dont rock no rag. but a white boy from kansas will do what ever he damn well pleases and might get the shit kicked of him for it. i never said put a white rag on.

whoa whoa whoa, why must ya use tha often used "Kansas" tag when refering to gullable white kids? I'm sure you knowin Rice n' all you might have been here a time or two, maybe not. I can't speak for tha rest of Kansas but here in Kansas City, Kansas shit aint no little house on tha prarie go swimmin with Dorthy in tha pond behind tha outhouse type of shit ya dig. But truth betold i get what ya sayin about impressionable white kids watchin tha shit on BET/MTV readin tha newstands mags n what not. Shit is truly annoying and sad but helpless all n tha same time, keep puttin your message out there though it will slowly but surely be heard and understood.

=2=

ps: next time you want to make a point about gullable white kids....try usin tha state of New Hampshire or say Montana alright.....ha

keep up tha good work...

bay 2 kc kc bakc 2 tha bay.
 
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N JAIL U MY HOE said:
Sydal that shit is nessasary everywhere! But what do you gain flossen it on covors? I mean either you truely strapped up pistol whippen crackheads or you beggin for street cred. When you pose with guns. The industry is half image and they want the rapper to look pieced up like Rambo. Cause if you really treal sucka gonna run up and a sucka gonna find out. Just a lot of controductions but I guess you can find loop holes in anything under a microscope. Btw how's ya album coming? I notced you connecten with ya dude from pof its a good look. Hit ya later!
Yea, I feel you on that. I don't pose with pistols 'cause I don't want folks knowin if I do or don't have one. If they know you have it, somebody will test...if they think you MIGHT have one, they might think twice before actin' up. This is why Texas' gun law is so nice, because you don't know who has what tucked, and it'd be a bitch to find out. I'm just sayin, Dutch has a gun, it's nothin'...I don't think he's runnin' around sayin he makes fools eat the barrel every other day though.

BTW, the album is comin' along nicely, thanks for askin'. We definitely have that chemistry in the studio.
 
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wow...interesting post.

Dutch, even though me and him don't see eye to eye on shit, dude is a dope MC. I've seen him perform live and rip it.

on the white rapper show. I watched the whole season. I was just wishing they would have screened contestants a little better. The highlight of the show is when John Brown got mollywhopped with a dildo, that was awesome.
 
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Sav Scorcese said:
Absolutely Mr. Wolf, I have hit a few cats in here up to do a collab including you. What you thought I was going to be embarassed to admit it ? Like I said before I'm not shitting on white rappers I was trying to clarify the mans' position. About killing shit, don't assume you can attempt to tell ME what to do in any aspect guy. I asked him if he wanted to battle me because of what he said to me. If you look at the paragraph I quoted he tried to discredit me as a lyricist and tell me to go make an album and shit. Did you peep that or were you to busy defending The Great White Hope to notice ? Speaking of attention, I did nothing different from the thread Dutch was basking in about how every other rapper but him was going to fail that he was celebrating. I posted a thought provoking thread with some legitimate questions to an artist to clarify his movement.

P.S. I'm not racist I hate all you muthafuckas the same.lol. I think you're a cool guy too.

Sav, If I wanted to embarass you then I would find some of your music and upload it..J/K

All good homie just wanted to make sure that this wasnt directed at white people in general. Cuz I love me some white folks! I could give a fuck about what Dutch is doin anyway...lol
 
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Sav Scorcese said:
Also where was all the uproar when Puffy put out Making The Band ? What does walking hella far to get some cheesecake have to do with hip hop as a whole ? Did that setback rappers ?
That was the most disrepsectful shit on the planet and it did cause alot of talk. Rappers til this day are quoting that cheesecake lashing in their lyrics.
 
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Gas One said:
this could take all fucking day so im only gonna respond to the first one.



What the fuck are you talking about? no really...what the fuck are you talking about??? who the fuck made you the almighty time keeper of white hip hop?? do you have an exact month and day on this shut down of white rap? you know what...nevermind. dont even answer this one.



It's a TV show, not a presidential election or a horse race. when was the last time you fucking cheered at the television?




Serch dosent have any responsibility to anyone outside of bieng serch, and can talk about,diss, or do what he wants. how does that effect you, as an individual? Does bill gates have to explain to us why he made microsoft windows? by the way, he was dissing ice cube because of hi, bieng a muslim and drinking liquor. common sense (a black artist, since race means so much) also dissed him for that same reason, so that points irrelevent.

oh wait, is common sense black enough for you? he might fail the paper bag test. get back to me on that.



ITS JUST A TV SHOW!!!!!!! ever watch the real world? WE ALL KNOW ITS NOT HOW THE REAL WORLD IS! btw, if youre going to insult an age range (even though im 28), why would you say "white rappers have been hated since 91'" when white rap goes back to the early/mid 80's?



okay so first we were talking about white rappers bieng wack since 1991, and now you want to talk about days where soul in hip hop was around? that wasnt in 1991. look man, fred flinstone was rapping on fruity pebbles commercials way before 1991. in the 80s, the beastie boys were rocking. i fail to see your point. 'white hip hop' has advanced throughout the years just like hip hop has, and white rappers are much more accepted now than they are then. and thats why a show like this can be made. mc serch, as a white rapper..knows more about the term than you. are you forgetting hes mc serch from 3rd bass?



...but youre not. right?



Definitions of satire on the Web:

A manner of writing that mixes a critical attitude with wit and humor in an effort to improve mankind and human institutions. Ridicule, irony, exaggeration, and several other techniques are almost always present. The satirist may insert serious statements of value or desired behavior, but most often he relies on an implicit moral code, understood by his audience and paid lip service by them.

^ read that.



why was grandmaster caz, prince paul, kool keith, everlast, ill bill, fat joe, (A MULTIRACIAL CAST OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN HIP HOP FROM THE PAST, TO TODAY) involved with the show if it disrespected hip hop as a whole?

have you done more for hip hop than those people, or possible have more of a say in what disrespects hip hop?

roles reversed = making of the band (where serch got his idea from anyway)

its just a tv show. theres no support involved. you watch it.
you can keep making up funny situations where you put another race in it if you want. (i wish there was a black rapper show, personally...or a asian rapper show..or a midget rapper show) but youre still missing the point. its just a show.

sorry to roast you and all.

You have too much time on your hands homie..But we can agree to disagree..Im with that!
 
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DUTCH-F.E said:
i know who i am, where i come from and what im doing. its also funny how, all these literally crazy white boys like icp and malice and countless others make music about having sex with dead bodies, retarded girlfriends, overdosing on drugs and thats cool with everyone, cause hey thats just rap, and slightly cartoonish. but as soon as me and my people step up on some regular whiteboy shit, the haters surface...... well fuck that shit. im gonna continue to do what i do, as i have for years. its just now im starting to actually sell records, and have a lil action in the game and the haters are coming out! well i love yall too. cause at least i mean enough for people to come out and say something.
You know why? Because the masses see...

Black rappers=gangstas

White rappers=goofy fucks

So when a white dude is speakin on g-shit and wearin saggy pants and backwards hats, they are seen as "wanna be black guys". Thats just the way it is. It apears that whites are adapting a "cultue" and trying to make it theirs.

How many REAL white g's you know that have really put in major work compared to black g's? Are there more Black's in high crime areas of the nation? As fucked off as it is...its true.

Its all about associations and generalizations. Its hard for rap fans to take white boys seriously on some street shit. They look like fakers.
 
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AWolfPromotions said:
Sav, If I wanted to embarass you then I would find some of your music and upload it..J/K
That comment made me sit and think if I did any corny songs. lol.I haven't I'm cool. I've got about 160 songs to choose from and each one a hitter.
 

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JUST CAUSE A PERSON WONT BEAT YOUR ASS OVER A TURF OR A RAG DONT MEAN THAT PERSON WONT BEAT YOUR ASS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

YOU NOT GANGSTER CAUSE "YOU" SAY YOU ARE, YOU GANGSTER WHEN "THEY" SAY YOU ARE... AND LAST TIME I CHECKED, GANGSTER DONT MAKE MONEY, HUSLTER'S DO THOUGH... IM IN MY LANE, DOING GREAT! THANKS FOR THE ASSESSMENT.

daggnabit, that damn caps button again.......


and one more thing, high risk neighborhoods are everywhere. and just cause the media portrays only black and latino neighborhoods as the "danger" zones dont mean it aint no white folks in the "ghetto" scenary. what you think aint no white dope feind's? no sick white people? no poor white people? oh i get it when you born white you born with a silver spoon and ira set up for 50 million. sorry buddy, thats not reality. the ratio is a bit greater for the black and latino community's but there are poor, sick, addicted people of every race.

and you absolutley right, whiteboys trying to be somethng they are not is funny as fuck and is not the business. but a whiteboy from a place that embraces hip hop and that culture, cant be a wanna be, when he was that was sinse he was 8 years old now can it?

this can get as deep as you want. i have an answer for just about every rebuttle. based on the fact that i knew once it got big enough the "nay sayers" would come by the bakers dozen to chop down what we doin over here, so ive prepaired myself... hahahahahhaha just let it go..... its not that big of a deal, unless you think whiteboys gettin money in rap is a big deal.. then ... make 20 more threads! make 20 more posts, wont stop it... hip hop has grown at a rapid pace sinse its creation. 25 years in the making. still making strides.....

ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL!