John Brown vs. Dutch (what's the deal ?)

[Sydal]

my bad if i dont word this right.

ive got premonitions of this whole "white boy movement" and all it is, is trying to segregate the game. colored bathrooms, white bathrooms.

ive noticed, over time...and i hate to stereotype a whole group but ive seen it too much... alot of white hip hop fans favorite mc's are white. eminem, so on. no matter of past mcs or previous mcs theyll feel thats the best. i dont have a problem with that because its common, predjudice..close minded people stick with their own, even with music. i know black people and even asians and mexicans who do the same.

ive heard a story where this guy had a favorite singer..he had all his albums and he loved his shit..then he found out he was black and took all the albums outside and shot them with a shotgun.

all im saying is it feels like this type of shit is meant to advance some sort of segregation in rap music... "white boy rap"...where only white boys peep that shit, only white fans...

personally im not feeling people taking hip hop, a for the most part, black and latino culture..and turning it into a possible movement for one race.

yall are taking an obvious satire and promotion of the emergence of white mcs, and turning it into a promotional event by trying to battle it, on the name of "real white mcs"...what the fuck type of shit is that?

either yall are trying to build white dominance in hip hop riding on the shoulders of the "white rapper show" or this shits promotion. point blank.

and i bet youll ride this thread to the ground. nice to be on the front page? right?

That's real spit right there. It's not hard to see though, that people other than the rappers label this shit. It's like when people tell me I "don't sound white"...or..."You're sick for a white dude". Why can't people see a rapper for a rapper, regardless of ethnic background? I think it's because people just love to catergorize EVERYTHING! You have record labels creating a "Latin" side of their companies...what is that all about? They do it in hopes of reaching a fanbase that otherwise wouldn't bump their shit...all part of the business, which is fucked.

I'm not big on "movements" because they tend to get cult followings, which fans take to extreme levels and act like jackasses. HOWEVER, if it's for the better for an artist, his family, the rap game, or for the world in general...I'M ALL FOR IT. Dutch isn't claiming to be something he isn't...he's saying he's normal, he happens to be white, he's gonna do him, and he's still SICK...and THAT is why people will BUY IT! Just because he's not portraying a bullshit image...we need more rappers like that, regardless of ethnicity. It's all about pride in who you are and where you came from...it's just like PLAYA RAE spittin' about his Rican roots, and me spittin' about my Italian roots...ain't nothin wrong with it...it's love for who you are and the people that brought you into this world.

 

[BASEDVATO]

Wasn't Dutch on some cover holden a glock, how does that support your normal white boy movment? That aint the norm anyway. So who you really reppin?

The white boys who's crazy enough to ride with gangstas but don't need to act black? If that's the case you just sellin them dreams! Cause you the same as you started

 

[Sav Scorcese]

its also funny how, all these literally crazy white boys like icp and malice and countless others make music about having sex with dead bodies, retarded girlfriends, overdosing on drugs and thats cool with everyone, cause hey thats just rap, and slightly cartoonish. but as soon as me and my people step up on some regular whiteboy shit, the haters surface......

This is not directed at Dutch in particular but it's funny how when you get people that have opinions that are contrary to your own and they are automatically "haters". It's not always hate folks, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. I think ICP and Malice have found their niche without having to throw "white boy white boy all over the place, in fact ICP wears face paint so they could have been Mexican for all I knew.

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

hahahahahaha i love the siccness!!!!!!!!!!!

on the cover of what holding a glock? not any albums.. if there are pictures, floating around, then so be it...... and sinse when does having a gun mean you arent white? or are trying to be black? or gangster.... our country has the right to bare arms.... read about it... why you think it aint never gonna be war on our soil..... everyone has guns...... all your angles for "opinions" whichi call hate are merely topics of discussion, that are quite simply shot down without any effort. i think we should lock the topic, and move forward... on to bigger and better things........

i would just like to say, i appreciate yall. you guys keep me on my toes. great excercise. like jumping jacks!

 

[Gas One]

promote white boy rap by upping a thread on the siccness!

crazy white boys! wwooo!


+1 promotion for rappin ass white boys!

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

n jail you my hoe, you are probably a whiteboy who uses the n word freely, and admires paul wall to the point of buying a fake grill to fit in with your friends...... and for the record i be at the industry insider functions in concord on weds. nights. i be with big draws from 211 and awolf drunk out of my mind...... sav come have a beer with me...... n jail you too if you are old enough.. then we can have a drink about it and really figure it out.......

just an invite....... no funk or jokes intended... but for real, the internet is really killing your brains... lets get some smog in our systems and laugh about it a bit.......... in person

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

gas one if you dont like it, dont read it....... you probably a whiteboy too.... you just get to act all "hiphoppy" on the internet and its all good huh... hahahahahahahahahahahah

 

[BASEDVATO]

I just moved to Texas getten my bread. I'm 26 n grown, and yes I'm 1/2 white. Don't change how I feel about a white boy movment in general. Make ya quick buck off it but I feel it seperste white rapper more in there own catagory then bringing them in the full loop of hiphop

Nuff said peace

 

[Gas One]

gas one if you dont like it, dont read it....... you probably a whiteboy too.... you just get to act all "hiphoppy" on the internet and its all good huh... hahahahahahahahahahahah

u can feel like that if you want to homeboy..but on that note fuck you and your white supremacy rap..i aint supportin that white boy shit.give a fuck how street you think you is. one.

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

it was only a matter of time..... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha white boy gas one hot

 

[Gas One]

lol @ me bieng white.

you dissin your own race callin me white like its a diss.

sorry homeboy, thats not me.
unlike you, i dont have to make up weird ass ways to make it in hip hop.


HA!

 

[tweeze]

this is why the bay dose not realy sell music who gives a fuck what color dude iz


if he trash he trash black or white



bay rappers and fans need to come off this tuff guy hypee shit ON THE REAL


ITS ABOUT THE MUSIC

 

[tweeze]

AND IAM BLACK

 

[Sydal]

Wasn't Dutch on some cover holden a glock, how does that support your normal white boy movment? That aint the norm anyway. So who you really reppin?

The white boys who's crazy enough to ride with gangstas but don't need to act black? If that's the case you just sellin them dreams! Cause you the same as you started

C'mon now Mr. Syde Akt...holdin' a gun in a picture doesn't mean SHIT! I'm against guns in the manner they are normally used, but I support the fact that we have the right to bare arms in this country. I support those who carry weapons for their own protection and survival, and let's be honest, the shit is necessary in California no matter where the fuck you are. I'd rather be arrested for carrying a gun illegally, than get murdered by somebody. "Rather be caught with it, than caught without one".

Like I've said my whole life, you don't have to be crazy to ride with gangstaz...you have to be smart to ride with them. I never joined a gang, and the gangstaz I grew up around always told me not to join one...but those muthafuckaz had the most love out of anybody I've known. Even though I wasn't a part of their crew, if I needed them, they were right beside me REGARDLESS! ETHNICITY doesn't play into this shit, it's all about where you are and who you're with. What I'm sayin is, you can be normal...but you live just like the rest of the people in this country.....and that is aware of your surroundings, and always expecting the worst...that's how cats survive out here....that's why my ass is still here.

 

[Sav Scorcese]

BTW I think it was a mixtape that Dutch was on that he had a gun. I was made about that because I was going to use the same (Road To Perdition) cover.lol. I am actually planning on going to one of those Concord events when my cuzzo get back from ATL so we can try to perform, who's in charge over there ? I used to go to The Enhancer Studios with Black Madness and Big Draws and his brother were there.

 

[BASEDVATO]

Sydal that shit is nessasary everywhere! But what do you gain flossen it on covors? I mean either you truely strapped up pistol whippen crackheads or you beggin for street cred. When you pose with guns. The industry is half image and they want the rapper to look pieced up like Rambo. Cause if you really treal sucka gonna run up and a sucka gonna find out. Just a lot of controductions but I guess you can find loop holes in anything under a microscope. Btw how's ya album coming? I notced you connecten with ya dude from pof its a good look. Hit ya later!

C'mon now Mr. Syde Akt...holdin' a gun in a picture doesn't mean SHIT! I'm against guns in the manner they are normally used, but I support them fact that we have the right to bare arms in this country. I support those who carry weapons for their own protection and survival, and let's be honest, the shit is necessary in California no matter where the fuck you are. I'd rather be arrested for carrying a gun illegally, than get murdered by somebody. "Rather be caught with it, than caught without one".

Like I've said my whole life, you don't have to be crazy to ride with gangstaz...you have to be smart to ride with them. I never joined a gang, and the gangstaz I grew up around always told me not to join one...but those muthafuckaz had the most love out of anybody I've known. Even though I wasn't a part of their crew, if I needed them, they were right beside me REGARDLESS! ETHNICITY doesn't play into this shit, it's all about where you are and who you're with. What I'm sayin is, you can be normal...but you live just like the rest of the people in this country.....and that is aware of your surroundings, and always expecting the worst...that's how cats survive out here....that's why my ass is still here.

 

[doodiejones]

how did we get here from john brown vs. dutch????lol

gotta love siccness.....

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

im tellin you........ everyone hates a winner!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaaha nah im just fuckin yall i see all of your points, but when you are opperating off assumptions, 90% of the time you are worng. i feel like if people were to see what im doing with my movement is building, not trying to knock down anything....

we just doin it moving

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[Mayor of Tracy]

The thing is I don't really care for white boys rapping about being "rider thugs". If I want to listen to "rider thug" shit I'll put on some Pac or some gangsta rap for that. I rather listen to Malice and ICP rap about fucking dead bodies and retarded chicks, because that's real "crazy white boy" shit. Shit Dutch if you sported a grill you might as be Paul Wall. Because it's all the same to me. White guys actin G. Even if that is the way you grew up and how your personality is. It still isn't original.

But this is just my opinion and I do respect what you do. And props on being proud of your race and not being afraid to show it.

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

oh you talkin bout 2000-2001 black n brown album with me and keltic tribe tracy... that good you brought that up..... cause that shows that i aint on no band wagon shit.... we been on it, we just now gettin a little notice!

best of luck, and how do i turn off this email shit, where everytime somereplys it emails me so i can let thi sthread go without being bothered?????