John Brown vs. Dutch (what's the deal ?)

[Sav Scorcese]

sav go drop a record and then ill respond to you. accomplish half of what i have in this business and ill respond to you. but i aint about to jump through hoops for you on the net bro. miss me with the bullshit. go find yourself a nice new guliable rapper to fuck with. you got the wrong white boy.

Mr. F.E. it seems as if you're getting perturbed. I'm merely asking questions so that everyone here can fully see where you are coming from. For the record also, I have dropped a record, as a matter of fact I dropped two but this isn't about me this is about me trying to understand your angle. Think of it as an interview. I just want to understand you better. I just figured it was time to have a real serious discussion on Siccness for a change. As you can see I'm not calling you any names or bashing you. Your response is unwarranted I'm being cool about this.

 

[Sydal]

Yea, the white rapper show is a fuckin joke. Hats off to Dutch for speakin' on it, and attackin' the cats that are trying to take folks like us down with this show that portrays us as "wanna-be's" and all this nonsense. What's the point? The term needs to be removed, period. "White Rapper", "Latin Rapper", etc. We're just artists like the rest of the folks, we deserve to have the same title. They don't say a painter is a "black painter" or a "Spanish painter"...if the painter does his job well, he's just a painter...an artist.

The labeling needs to stop, the jokes need to stop...Vanilla Ice was a joke, but Eminem and Bubba proved to be the real deal...they showed that not every "white rapper" is gonna lie about where he's from and dance with Ninja Turtles. Serch is an idiot...and so are the dudes on the show not even knowin' they're bein' laughed at. I would like to attack this issue, but it doesn't even seem worth it to me. I'm just gonna join everybody else for a laugh at these clowns...but I understand and respect what Dutch is doin'.

 

[the_truth_]

i can and will hate on someone saying they from where im from and being a complete bitch. and thats what it is. and he is a whiteboy. so its my business. i dont say shit abotu nothing that has nothing to do with me. this is MY business. and even if it wasnt i made it mine.

malice is the homie... i fuck with gabe and apt 3/4 all day!

saying he from where you from ? he is from davis, ca....... lol

taking jon brown serious is like argueing with a mentally retarded person

 

[Daddy Rich]

EC illa? damn i havn't heard sh!t from that dude in a minute...anyway I cant stand John Brown, It's crazy how this guy supposedly has record labels trying to sign him, I didnt think anyone took him that serious...

its all about the money when it comes to these lables they dont give a fuck his deal is simillar to y new york got her own show off the flavor of love if it trix america and has them pay attention to it for a few weeks then a lable would capitilize off of it in a minute its all buisness and money at the end of the day but the real ones will never sell out to it and are never fooled to the facts if u think william hung got famous on talent then ur fooled jsut like all the other morons that supprted his 15min of fame not speaking on u just in general pz

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

sav, you seem to ailenate yourself when it comes to me. you constant stand on the opisite side of the fence regaurdless if im involved. almost as if my career means a lot to you. i have no issue with you, due to the fact that i dont know you and have never met you to my knowledge. but if you think im going to willow away or not stand up for myself and try to "fit in" to be cool. nope. im me regardless.

appreciate your efforts to boost my stock! i need the traffic!

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

i dont take john brown serious, but im gonna make sure no one else does either.

 

[Sav Scorcese]

sav, you seem to ailenate yourself when it comes to me. you constant stand on the opisite side of the fence regaurdless if im involved. almost as if my career means a lot to you. i have no issue with you, due to the fact that i dont know you and have never met you to my knowledge. but if you think im going to willow away or not stand up for myself and try to "fit in" to be cool. nope. im me regardless.

appreciate your efforts to boost my stock! i need the traffic!

Dutch read what I said previously. All of my questions were genuine and I want people to understand the movement you are involved in and that you feel it is worth it to you to protect what you have personally done in your life and pay taxes off of. I have in the past argued with you about bullshit but this is not on ofthose times. I'm serious.

 

[Sav Scorcese]

Like I have said before I have heard one song of yours that I burned from Imesh last year some time it was a Whitey Ford sounding tune that I actually bumped for a few weeks and being that I have been in the Bay Area and involved in music since the 90's I have heard of you in my circles. I know you don't know my track record in the game but for the same token I've never spoke on it and presented myself to be "sort of a big deal" I've done what I've done and I've worked with some of the pioneers in Frisco rap early on in their careers before I got out of the game to do work in the private sector.

 

[ChuckTaylor84]

CAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

you knwo what the funny thing is, is that id say 70% of the people who post here are white and scared to admit it cause it aint cool and they might get laughed at. well i may fail, but i will for the rest of my career be a cool ass regular white boy. and i hope that even in my failures that if another whiteboy can take what ever i have done or will do in the future and recognize it and build from it then i have done my job. im tired of white boys being laughed at and being the pun of the joke. all out of their own ignorance.

im going to lead the way on how to be a real ass white boy. if the whole world opporated how i do as far as white folks are concerned it would be a better place. i stay in my own lane, i do me, and respect everyone on an idividual basis. no gold teeth. no n words. just me loving the culture i grew up in. and that is hip hop.

and there you have it. in a nut shell. no gimmick. no make-up. no bullshit. ebrace who you are and love what ever you want to. just do it int he lane that was naturally created for you to do it in.

 

[Legman]

^^^What It Do Dutch, Good To See You more Active Lately

Anyway, That "White Rapper Show" Was A Fuckin Joke, And It Not Only Set White Artists Back, But Made Rap Look Like A Fuckin Joke. People Dont Always See Things For What They Are And Beileve Shit Thats Juss There For Entertainment. That Shit Juss About Set Back All Of Hip Hop Cuz Now Your Gonna See Str8 Squares Tryna Act Like Its Koo To Rap And It'll Get You Into Sum Kinda Spotlight. And Its Gonna Be Harder For White Folks To Get In The Game Cuz They Are Gonna Be Looked At As Another "John Brown".

Its A Shame What People Do For Money, Being Real Juss Aint That Important Anymore, You Gotta Put On An Imagine To Make It And Thats Fuckin Gay

Either Way Do Your Thang Dutch, Stay Focused And Dont Let The Haters Pull You Down, Stay Up Pimp!

 

[Sav Scorcese]

Sounds as if your intentions are noble in that you believe white boys are being ridiculed in the game. I myself feel that since the arrival of Eminem, white boys are taken more seriously. When I first heard a relatively unknown Eminem during the Rap Olympics, I was in awe and I didn't even see the video I heard the audio and I knew he was going to be something to reckon with. I think that since by popular opinion the pioneers of rap (besides Rick Rubin, the Beastie Boys and Debbie Harry) were believed to be Black that some people find it amusing when other races get involved. Kind of like a group of Black men playing Mariachi music or a Chinese dude doing Reggaeton. I don't feel this way myself. I feel that people of different races and backgrounds have grew up on hip hop and it's in their hearts so it's all they know and so they make a genuine effort to do it and some succeed.

 

[Toro]

Ain't read any of the topuc but I'm high and this my opinion. The white rapper show was supposed to be fun. It's got funny people and funny moments. For you to say it sent white rappers back is fuckin ignorance. Kinda sound like you just trying to get seen by dissing him. And you wanna get at a rapper for ruining shit for white people on that show, then get at Sham for winning a rap contest with a dance song. And no hate just my opinion.

 

[BASEDVATO]

Shaved Heads, and White Rags? lol j/k

All respect to your movment, but Eminem marketed his white boy, but did not need to form a "Movment" to gain that fan base, the same fan base your gunnen for like it or not. Why not be more of a induvidual? You look gimmick, make weird cults of CWB... then again white folks is looken for some "gang" "set" "Crew" whatever you call it, w/o neo nazi ties

Do you... ima a start a movment for the races that fit in no box, for the "others" in prison. Yeee lol

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

hey you know, movements make money rappers make music. so there the business side. i respect your opinion, and in jail you my hoe you a whiteboy too huh? you must either have a gold grill or frequent the n word! hahahahahah j/p

be easy

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

sham dont want it and and atlanta aint my problem. cali is.

 

[Mayor of Tracy]

The thing people don't like is wiggers. And after listening to your audio on your myspace you don't sound white at all.

 

[28g w/o the bag]

Who gives a shit about the white rapper show? There are far more important things in world going on. Yall need to get your priorities strainght IMO.

you're right, and while we're at it, lets shut down the siccness... since there are far more important things in the world going on!!!!!!!!

quit it.

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[DAT NIGGA TAZZ]

if cwb is only 3 people how come ive seen a billion people with that tat?

 

[Do it]

Slightly off-topic, but how many episodes were there of this show? I want to see what you are talking about..