its official. Kidd to Dallas.

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Dec 4, 2005
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ill post a link as soon as i can find it

but basically kidd for harris, ager and stackhouse.

nets will buyout stack's contract and he'll be able to resign with the mavs in 30 days.
 
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ill post a link as soon as i can find it

but basically kidd for harris, ager and stackhouse.

nets will buyout stack's contract and he'll be able to resign with the mavs in 30 days.


edit: heres the link

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244102

Jason Kidd has quietly -- and not so quietly -- hoped for a trade to the Dallas Mavericks all season.

Jason Kidd
Kidd

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New Jersey Nets

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2008 Season Stats GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
51 11.3 8.1 10.4 .366 .820

Those hopes are about to realized, according to NBA front-office sources.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks and Nets on Wednesday reached an agreement in principle on a Kidd deal after talks had seemingly stalled last week, moving the teams to brink of completing the NBA's third blockbuster deal of the month.

Although sources say that the teams are still sorting out final details, this deal was described as "imminent" by multiple sources close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage Tuesday night. The deal -- salvaged from talks on a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- has Dallas sending 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSagana Diop and swingman Devean George and guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and forward Malik Allen.

Sources say Dallas will also add the league-maximum $3 million in cash and send its first-round draft pick this June as well as a first-rounder in 2010.

The Nets are expected to buy out Stackhouse's contract immediately, which could enable him to re-sign with Dallas if he waits 30 days, and ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Nets and the Mavs are likewise poised to complete a separate trade that will send swingman Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

Dallas has been widely considered the most likely winner of the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters Sunday before New Jersey beat Dallas that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.

"For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening.

Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks have heated up in the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.

The Mavs' biggest reservation, though, isn't sacrificing Harris. Sources maintain that Dallas, while reluctant to part with one of Cuban's favorite players and its point guard of the future after signing Harris to a contract extension over the summer, has been resigned for some time to losing Harris if it meant getting Kidd back.

The greater hesitation, sources said, is that they would also have to part with Stackhouse and Diop, weakening Dallas' depth. Even if the Nets do waive Stackhouse as expected and Dallas is able to re-sign him after a 30-day wait, losing Diop is a significant blow, as that leaves the inconsistent Erick Dampier as the Mavericks' only veteran center at a time when potential playoff foes like the Los Angeles Lakers (Pau Gasol) and Phoenix Suns (Shaquille O'Neal) are getting bigger.

But Dallas appears more motivated than ever in spite of those concerns and the current lack of a third team to join in and broaden the trade, believing that Kidd -- although he turns 35 in March and is threatening to establish a new career low with his 36.7 percent shooting from the field -- is still a prime source of leadership and mental toughness.

Kidd displayed those qualities in abundance during a strong summer with Team USA and those areas are well-chronicled weak spots for the Mavs, who followed up a historic collapse to Miami in the 2006 NBA Finals with a first-round flameout against Golden State after winning 67 games last season. A point guard of Kidd's caliber, influence and experience would undoubtedly please the demanding Avery Johnson, reinvigorate a team that has been lacking energy and confidence and supply Dallas' coach with a dangerous four-man core of Kidd, Josh Howard, Jason Terry and reigning MVP Dirk Nowitzki.

Nowitzki is the player Kidd has had in mind when privately telling associates in recent months that he hoped to go back to Dallas. Although his desire to leave New Jersey had been suspected all season, Kidd didn't go public with that wish until late January, when he told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that it's time for him and New Jersey "all to move on" in separate directions.

Kidd was acquired by the Nets in the 2001 offseason in a trade with Phoenix featuring Stephon Marbury and sparked New Jersey to the most successful period in the team's NBA history, starting with back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals in 2002 and 2003. After giving strong consideration to signing with San Antonio in the summer of 2003, Kidd elected to stay with the Nets. During the past four-plus seasons, however, New Jersey has not advanced past the second round of the playoffs, despite the 2004 arrival of Vince Carter and Kidd's successful recovery from microfracture knee surgery.

The Nets were prepared to deal Kidd to the Lakers at the trade deadline last season but pulled out of the deal when the Lakers refused to part with center Andrew Bynum, who has since blossomed. This deal would give them a highly rated point guard who's 10 years younger than Kidd and three cap-friendly contracts if the Mavericks indeed include Ager.

The Nets could come away with even more salary-cap relief if the Mavericks built their trade package around Harris and a signed-and-traded Keith Van Horn. Although he has been out of the game since the end of the 2005-06 season, Van Horn hasn't filed official retirement papers with the league, allowing Dallas to retain his rights. And because Van Horn's final NBA salary was nearly $16 million, Dallas can re-sign him for a substantial amount and thus create a lucrative expiring contract for the Nets, because only the first year of a contract must be guaranteed in a sign-and-trade arrangement.

Cuban, though, told ESPN.com last week that "we won't use [Van Horn] in any deal for anyone." That's because Kidd would cost the Mavericks nearly $40 million next season, thanks to the luxury tax, if they sent only Harris, Van Horn and salary-cap filler to the Nets.
 

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This is a coo trade for Dallas. I aint as high on Harris as u cats seem to be. But they did get smaller by giving away Diop, while the other west teams got bigger so I dont know. But as far as Kidd for harris, I would take Kidd in a heartbeat!! And on a side trade they Mavericks also got Wright from Jersey for a future 2nd rounder and I like that also for Dallas!! Got Em!!
 
May 9, 2002
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This is a coo trade for Dallas. I aint as high on Harris as u cats seem to be. But they did get smaller by giving away Diop, while the other west teams got bigger so I dont know. But as far as Kidd for harris, I would take Kidd in a heartbeat!! And on a side trade they Mavericks also got Wright from Jersey for a future 2nd rounder and I like that also for Dallas!! Got Em!!
Kidd is also what, in his late 30's? What happens if the trade doesnt pay off and they dont win the title, what then? They dumped off some young talent and a solid bench player for a PG who doesnt have too much left in him...

Suspect trade, unless they win it all.
 
Aug 7, 2003
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hahah, the mavs are stupid as fuck for this trade. they want to win now with this move but can they really beat the spurs, lakers, jazz, warriors with this move?

kidd, eddie jones, josh howard, dirk nowtiski and dampier

with terry, bass, hassel and malik allen off the bench.


haha that lineup is wack as fuck. kidd aint going to make dirk any tougher, dampier is wack, howard is legit but jones is old. and their bench is weak besides at the PG spot exactly what they just traded for.
 

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Kidd is also what, in his late 30's? What happens if the trade doesnt pay off and they dont win the title, what then? They dumped off some young talent and a solid bench player for a PG who doesnt have too much left in him...

Suspect trade, unless they win it all.
They wont win the title but they aint gonna win a title with Harris either so what Im sayin is, they have a better shot with Kidd then with Harris in my opinion. And even after Kidd retires say like 2-3 years or whatever, they will have time to get a new PG by then and maybe even be better than Harris! Again Harris is decent but he aint all that to me so I dont think its as bad as people think!! Got Em!!
 
Dec 19, 2005
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they lost a lot of depth and their only legitimate center now is dampier...

i guess we'll see how it works out, but to me it's stupid. i still don't think they're better than half the teams in the west (LA, Utah, Phoenix, NO, and SA when they get healthy...houston, denver, and the warriors will give them a run for their money too).
 

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^^The funny thing is they may not have been better or as good as those teams u mentioned before this trade either!! Got Em!!
 

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Yea I get that, but what I meant was people are bashing this trade like it made them worse and I think they got better, but they still wont win a title!! Got Em!!!
 
Jun 15, 2005
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PG's like Kidd maximize their production when they can pass the ball to someone who can finish an athletic move to the basket. That was Carter and Jefferson - who is it now?
 

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Terrible, terrible trade... now who's going to keep up with Tony Parker? I like Harris and I thought he was a really good fit for Dallas. Jason Kidd is a great "passing" point guard but he better start knocking down shots consistantly. I wouldn't have pulled this trade off though. Bad move in my opinion.