Okay fellas, "real talk" begins now. The situation that the traditional mexican gangs of Cali face would seem to mirror the Bloods & Crip Gangs if not for the influx of a few "new" players. Both surenos & Nortenosare being Pushed farther north by 18th street & MS 13 gangs that have boomed in Central America and are now expanding. 1 would assume that Nortenos would have more staying power due to their organizational skills, which are much like if not better than the aforemetioned gangs. Surenos however have numbers on their side but this also as b4 seems just like the "bloods (less in-fighting) & Crips (more in-fighting). As for the International scene, Think New York in terms of current L.A. Gangs., their affiliation is self-governed but they mimic those same L.A. gangs 'traits', such as color and identity, but that's where it stops.