I knew this would happen.......school shooting related..

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Authorities Plan High Security After Threat At Turner High School

April 19, 2007 07:26 AM CDT

KANSAS CITY, Kan. -- There will be extra security at a KCK high school after officials found a threatening note in the girls bathroom on Wednesday.

Officials at Turner High School said they will search students cars and personal items and have extra security and metal detectors on campus.

Turner School Board officials told parents in a letter sent home that "in view of recent events nationally and in response to copycat behaviors, we are planning to increase our security measures."

Stay tuned to KCTV5 News for the latest developments on this story.

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This is my little cousins highschool...

basically they found a note in the girls bathroom....stating:

"I'm tired of being picked on. If you dont want to die, dont show up to school tomorrow"

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im in KC visiting my mom...i didnt hear about this...but yeh shit like this happens all the time when something like the massacre happens...kids being stupid wanting to cause trouble is prolly most of it....
 

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They're making a "plan" at my college...IRONIC thing is...the plan is EXACTLY like Virginia Tech's. The school sent out an email, so I sent one back pretty much saying it's not going to fucking work cause that' swhat VT did and it didn't help for shit.

The email was forwarded to cabinet members of the administration...lol...they're talkin about an email, web posting, tv shit, radio shit....what if mother fuckers are IN CLASS or don't have TV or radio or don't check their email ever 10 fucking minutes?
 
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FOR SOME REASON WHEN SHIT POPS OFF ON THE NEWS, THE NEWS STICKS TO ONE STORY, AND FINDS RELATED STORIES, WHAT I MEAN IS THIS TYPE OF SHIT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT NEVER GETS REPORTED, HERES WHAT HAPPENED IN LAS VEGAS

Gun Produced At High School, Two Arrested
LAS VEGAS, Nev. -- A fight at a Las Vegas high school escalated Wednesday when at least one person produced a gun, prompting a school lockdown, police said.

Two 18-year-olds have been arrested and charged with bringing the weapon to Desert Pines High School in northeast Las Vegas. No shots were fired during the ordeal, Las Vegas police said, but students were kept in classrooms or the school gymnasium for several hours while police searched for the teens. Officials said the suspects are not students at the high school, but showed up in a school courtyard before the fight.

Police said they confiscated two 9mm handguns when they searched an apartment in connection with the incident. Authorities have identified the suspects as Terrence Brown and Emmanuel Goins. Both men also face charges of loitering with a weapon on school grounds, police said.
 
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JLMACN said:
http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=6392589

basically they found a note in the girls bathroom....stating:

"I'm tired of being picked on. If you dont want to die, dont show up to school tomorrow"

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What the fuck is wrong with kids these days! Hell, I got picked on in school, but you don't see me makin' no hitlist or threatening to kill people. Get the parents/school counselors involved or some shit. That doesn't make any kind of sense.

Obviously this kid had frustration built up over time. Shit like that doesn't happen overnight. I'm wonderin' why no one saw any signs or chose to step in and do somethin'.
 

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^^i think most people have been picked on, they just deal with it better...

i agree, parents and counselors should have been more involved...but the system will only allow them to do so much, and that's not necessarily a bad thing...just when shit like this happens, people get scared, and they will let the govt' do whatever it wants to ensure out "security" even though our civil liberties and political freedoms get fucked over....
 
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Sometimes shit happens, and there is nothing you can do.

I get so sick of armchair QB motherfuckers talkin bout this this and this shoulda been done.

The guy was obviously a nut. They tried to get shit straight but it wasnt happenin. Guy was nuts. End.

Its like when a school shooting happens and people blame the parents. The fuck do the parents have to do with it? 99% of the time the person is just fucked up.
 

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Parents are the ones that raised the kid and didn't curtail that type of thinking or behavior when he was younger (or whenever). That's like saying a 2 year old is responsible for killing someone...the fuckin kid don't know...the parents should have done something. Not sayin the parents are 100% at fault, but come the fuck on, they RAISED his ass. They can FORCE him to do shit up until he's 18...obviously they didn't do SHIT.

Some things are based on the environment you are surrounded by. This guy was obviously not socialized the way most people are.
 
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I AM said:
Parents are the ones that raised the kid and didn't curtail that type of thinking or behavior when he was younger
Bull mothafuckin shit.

"Mom, is it ok to shoot people?"

"Yes dear, blow their fucking heads off"

That's like saying a 2 year old is responsible for killing someone...the fuckin kid don't know...the parents should have done something.
Was this guy 2?

"The parents should have done something" Yet another dumbass blanket statement. How do you know they didn't? Who are you to judge their parenting?

People can come from what I consider to be excellent homes and great parents and get strung out on meth, become prostitutes, kill people, anything. I have friends who come from the worst environments imaginable and become model citizens. The complete opposite also frequently happens.

This fuckin instant parent blame shit is a cute cop out but its simplistic bullshit...especially when you dont know what the parents did or didnt do.

Not sayin the parents are 100% at fault, but come the fuck on, they RAISED his ass. They can FORCE him to do shit up until he's 18...obviously they didn't do SHIT.
Do you have a seperate mouth in your ass, or do you just frequently make the trip to stick your mouth out of it? You dont know any of this shit. Youre just supposing and going "well, if the guy did this, he must have come from a fucked up home. The parents must have been fucked up people!"

Some things are based on the environment you are surrounded by. This guy was obviously not socialized the way most people are.
Or, maybe the guy was a fuckin kook. Or, the fact that he was an asian Napolean Dynamite really fucked with his head. Or, maybe he was just a bad person.

How old was he? 19? And youre still blaming the parents?
 

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Anyone Ever Think This Might Be A Childish Response To The VT Shooting And A Reach For Attention?

Lol Remember Half The High School Kids Now-a-days Arent Normal Considering Rising Various Factors In Our Country

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you dont know what the parents did or didnt do.
Precisely. Do you think this means we should not investigate?

It's the classic nature vs. nurture. And you are making the case for nature. I happen to believe that there are a little of both involved, but I place much more emphasis on nurture.

Every single experience we have when we are born and growing up makes an imprint in our psyche. Most of these imprints come from those who we directly interact with: our parents. Our imprints determine the way we react to certain stimulus in the future. These imprints can be very hard to reprogram in adolescence and adulthood, often requiring large amounts of psychotherapy, psychedelic drugs, or near death experience.

"The circuitry of the human robot, like that of other primates, is wired to take imprints at crucial moments of what ethologists call "imprint vulnerability." These occur on a pre-programmed schedule; the bio-suvival imprint is taken as soon as the mother's breast is offered; the territorial imprint as soon as the infant is able to walk about, yell and generally meddle in family politics; the laryngeal imprint as soon as the DNA-RNA signals trigger the talking stage; the sexual imprint at the first orgasm or mating experience, etc."

"Each of these imprints exists in the nervous system as a separate circuit or network. Any one of them can be kinky or odd, since the biocomputer imprints literally anything at the moments of imprint vulnerability.

A kinky bio-survival imprint may take such forms as anxiety, phobias or outright autism. A weird territorial-emotional imprint can be overly submissive, in which case the subject suffers, or overy dominant, in which case those unfortunate enough to associate with the subject do the suffering. A bizarre symbolic is, at this stage of evolution, the norm: almost every society educates the young for stupidity, dogmatism, intolerance and inability to learn anything new. As for the sexual imprints: everybody can see how compulsive abd weird everybody else's sexual imprint is; but alas, few can see that about themselves." From Robert Anton Wilson http://www.rawilsonfans.com/articles/IRobot.html

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Neuronal imprinting of human values.

* Delgado JM.

Centro de Estudios Neurobiologicos, Pasage de Caleruega 13, 38033, Madrid, Spain.

In the 21st century, psychophysiology will face the challenge of establishing ethical principles and practical means for the genetic and social influencing of the development of human beings. Neuronal imprinting of beliefs and morality within infantile minds will be necessary for the peaceful coexistence of races and cultures. This process requires study and consideration, among others, of the following psychophysiological facts: (1) Genes do not transmit moral values. (2) Material support of physiological activities is necessary for the existence and development of mental functions. (3) Imprinting of human values is based on material changes within neuronal structures. (4) Early neuronal imprinting is performed without personal awareness or consent of the individual and depends on sensory inputs, mainly from the social structure of the group. (5) Biological structures lack values. Personal and social antagonisms do not depend on genes, but on cultural indoctrination. (6) Pleasure and punishment (positive and negative reinforcement) are the two main elements, which regulate animal and human behavior. (7) Values must be chosen by adults, who decide the questions 'why'? 'when'? 'which ones'?, 'who should teach'?, 'what?' and 'how'? (8) Many biological imperatives are shared by all animals and by all people. Human beings may be considered the 'crickets of the Universe', unable to understand the mysteries of nature because of our insufficient neuronal capacity. (9) Our emotional life is mainly related to the structure of the limbic system controlled by the neocortex. (10) New theories based on the integration of physics, chemistry, biology and other specific areas of knowledge, as proposed by the General Theory of Systems, will avoid 'opposites', favoring the acceptance of complementary aspects of reality. (11) Early education will promote preferential learning which depends on both genetic endowment and neuronal development influenced by experience. It is the responsibility of psychophysiology to establish the guidelines for better education, clarifying the material and psychological aspects of the mind.

PMID: 10677650 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10677650&dopt=Abstract

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It could be just that the kid was simply "nuts", as you put it, but it's a mistake to jump to that conclusion without investigating.
 
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WhiteDevil...I see your point but..

bad parent doesnt always equal (in these cases) "Son, go kill 32 people in school"

bad parent in situations like this are the ones with no communication...or no relationship with their children..

Im not blaming parents for these killings because for the most part these kids are old enough to know better.....but they do have some accountablity...and Im sure it eats at them...in the end.

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JLMACN said:
but they do have some accountablity...
This is what I really can't get my head around. Do we really live in such a blame-dependent society? Because this is all I seem to hear.

and Im sure it eats at them...in the end.
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Oh no doubt whatsoever.

But I've seen too many people come from admittedly great homes and parents making ridiculously stupid decisions to ever blame someone's parents off top.

Some of the people I'd call the worst failures I know personally are/were simply selfish, lazy, depressed, or bored, and they choose the outcome of their own lives, just as Napolean chose to end 30 other lives.
 

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^^^Sure, Why Dont We Juss Slice The Babies Nuts Off After They Are Born Too, That'll Make Things Juss Dandy