I have this question....

[Y-S]

I have this question that would be appreciated for an answer....I'm wondering, was Bush there taking a visit in elementary school on September 11, 2001?

Thanks

 

[Cmoke]

whats makes you ask this question? according to the media he was..

 

[tweedle]

They got him on video at the school. He was just standing there for like 10 mins after he found out.

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

yeah he was reading a story book to some little kids
in a classroom at the time

 

[I AM]

That's funny, cause I saw on TV the other day that he was in the air on Air Force One, after the towers were hit, just flyin around in circles because their communication systems didn't work or some bullshit. It was on the History channel.

 

[Cmoke]

his reaction is priceless.....

your leading the country and you find out that we are under attack, but you still sit there cuz you "dont wanna scare the kids" for 10 mins.....


why not just say...okay kids i have somthing i have to attend to goodbye...

 

[5-Dime NwK]

^^ we all know if you were in his position all of you would have know EXACTLY what to do without hesitation
because everyone here is perfect at everything


lol

 

[TROLL]

hehe the book was upside down too

 

[I AM]

^^ we all know if you were in his position all of you would have know EXACTLY what to do without hesitation
because everyone here is perfect at everything

I wouldn't have sat around with some fuckin' kids after that shit...I mean, if I was president, I probably would have noted all the memos and shit from the CIA and NSA and the FBI etc about possible attacks...but what do I know? I just watched the questioning of Condel-whatever the fuck-Rice...Listening to them read the memos was pretty distrubing....The shit was blatently there, and this bitch was tryin' to cover up for Bush....If you had seem 5+ memos about a serious attack on the US, I would HOPE that you would have fucking done something....Otherwise you wouldn't deserve to be in office in the first fucking place.

 

[Y-S]

So, since he was there in elementary and then attack happened, then he just sat there.......AND NODDED his head......then this could mean that bush knew it was all going to happen, because you see, if bush wasn't aware that it was all going to happen, after guy notifies him by whispering in his ear, he would have or should have stood up quickly and take the visit to white house or somewhere that to take care of things......here's that video that i found:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4008941961287957237&q=bush

voila. Bush probably knew. Cuz once again, if he didn't, he would've ran so quickly after being notified....and should've been shocked...

 

[Cmoke]

^^ we all know if you were in his position all of you would have know EXACTLY what to do without hesitation

By saying "we" you refer to EVERYONE along with yourself, speaking to me? Or are you speaking in general terms?

Taking into consideration that everyone might react in their own personal way, My initial reaction would be of concern and i would respond quickly to conceal myself so that i could make decisions if the attack turned into somthing more. If i were the leader of the most powerful country in the world, don't you think that others may also be concerned about my saftey? Would they sit there for 10 minutes and do NOTHING? I wouldn't hope so. It doesn't make sense.

because everyone here is perfect at everything


lol

So far you're the only person i see saying that. Why are you sensitive on this subject matter?

 

[Ethereal]

How do we know that the video of him in the classroom took place exactly when the towers collapsed?

 

[TROLL]

heres some questions i have about 9/11...

:entagon::
1)how can an airplane fit thru the small hole supposedly created..
2)why did a supposed piece of wreckage, (an engine piece) DID NOT belong to a passenger jet but instead a government plane?
3)Why did a wheel found there belong too a remote controlled missle that has specific weather resistant materials? and reports show there were a couple sitting on the runway of a washington airport days before
4)Why were video tapes confiscated from several diffrent locations that would, without a doubt, prove conspiracy theorists wrong?
5)Why in the area the plane hit.. was underconstruction for... guess what.. A PLANE CRASHING INTO IT??
6)Is it coincidence that donald rumsfeld was on the direct opposite side of where the plane hit?

::the buildings::
1)Why were there explosions reported AFTER the planes had hit?
2)Why did senior firefighters report that they had seen flashes of light seconds before the explosions (i.e DEMOLITION DETONATORS)
3)Why did building 7 suddenly "collapse" after the towers had fallen?
4)Why were billions of dollars taken out of the banks days before.
5)why did the steel supossedly melt, when it takes 3000 degrees to turn steel molten and jet fuel burns only at 2000 degrees max.
6)Why did a demolition team visit the towers weeks prior?

::the planes::
1)Why were the black boxes ordered to be destroyed?
2)Why were countless eye witnesses claiming the planes had NO WINDOWS or markings??
3)the flight that crash landed in pennsylvania.. WHERES THE WRECKAGE??? not one piece was found..

:NAC::
(Project for a new american century)
Says: To enter a foriegn country (unspecified).. america would have to suffer its next pearl harbor

what does bush say at news confrence three days after the attacks??.....
"america has suffered its new pearl harbor"

coincidence????

 

[I AM]

^^that hole, was apparently cuased by a missile. people around there that were interviewed, at least in a video that i saw, said they heard a plane in the sky, and something hit the building while something else flew away.

 

[Y-S]

heres some questions i have about 9/11...

:entagon::
1)how can an airplane fit thru the small hole supposedly created..
2)why did a supposed piece of wreckage, (an engine piece) DID NOT belong to a passenger jet but instead a government plane?
3)Why did a wheel found there belong too a remote controlled missle that has specific weather resistant materials? and reports show there were a couple sitting on the runway of a washington airport days before
4)Why were video tapes confiscated from several diffrent locations that would, without a doubt, prove conspiracy theorists wrong?
5)Why in the area the plane hit.. was underconstruction for... guess what.. A PLANE CRASHING INTO IT??
6)Is it coincidence that donald rumsfeld was on the direct opposite side of where the plane hit?

::the buildings::
1)Why were there explosions reported AFTER the planes had hit?
2)Why did senior firefighters report that they had seen flashes of light seconds before the explosions (i.e DEMOLITION DETONATORS)
3)Why did building 7 suddenly "collapse" after the towers had fallen?
4)Why were billions of dollars taken out of the banks days before.
5)why did the steel supossedly melt, when it takes 3000 degrees to turn steel molten and jet fuel burns only at 2000 degrees max.
6)Why did a demolition team visit the towers weeks prior?

::the planes::
1)Why were the black boxes ordered to be destroyed?
2)Why were countless eye witnesses claiming the planes had NO WINDOWS or markings??
3)the flight that crash landed in pennsylvania.. WHERES THE WRECKAGE??? not one piece was found..

:NAC::
(Project for a new american century)
Says: To enter a foriegn country (unspecified).. america would have to suffer its next pearl harbor

what does bush say at news confrence three days after the attacks??.....
"america has suffered its new pearl harbor"

coincidence????

good questions.........

I think the steel was probably very old that could be the reason

 

[TROLL]

good questions.........

I think the steel was probably very old that could be the reason

well thats not the first time the WTC towers had a fire..an entire floor had one that lasted 8 hours.. and it didnt collapse.. there wasnt any structural change scince then... but that is a possibility..

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

So, since he was there in elementary and then attack happened, then he just sat there.......AND NODDED his head......then this could mean that bush knew it was all going to happen, because you see, if bush wasn't aware that it was all going to happen, after guy notifies him by whispering in his ear, he would have or should have stood up quickly and take the visit to white house or somewhere that to take care of things......here's that video that i found:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4008941961287957237&q=bush

voila. Bush probably knew. Cuz once again, if he didn't, he would've ran so quickly after being notified....and should've been shocked...

The problem with your theory is this:

Bush reacts to EVERYTHING like a deer in headlights. Debates, reporter questions, press statements...the man is about the biggest idiot to ever be in the White House.

 

[Y-S]

ya, and then, today we have better steels now, right? So....in fact, these skyscrapers were built in around from 1970 to 1977, and today's 2006.

Another possibility - once the planes were hit, there were bombs inside too, to help increase the heat to melt the steel, perhaps?

2000 (jet) + 1000 (bombs) = 3000

I dunno, lol

edit: was replying to troll

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

heres some questions i have about 9/11...

:entagon::
1)how can an airplane fit thru the small hole supposedly created..

The hole was the size of the airplane.

2)why did a supposed piece of wreckage, (an engine piece) DID NOT belong to a passenger jet but instead a government plane?

Where is this piece of wreckage? Did NWO, TLC, CFR, and Bilderberg troops take it away to George Bush the Lizard King before he committed a human sacrifice?

3)Why did a wheel found there belong too a remote controlled missle that has specific weather resistant materials? and reports show there were a couple sitting on the runway of a washington airport days before

Why can a man online quote anything and make it sound factual? Why does it reinforce the conspiracy story when there is absolutely no evidence?

"What wheel? There is no wheel."
"Dont you see? They took it and HID IT."

4)Why were video tapes confiscated from several diffrent locations that would, without a doubt, prove conspiracy theorists wrong?

Have you seen how Bush and Co operate? They believe in hiding things from public view even if they don't need to.

5)Why in the area the plane hit.. was underconstruction for... guess what.. A PLANE CRASHING INTO IT??

Maybe a plane crashed into it.

6)Is it coincidence that donald rumsfeld was on the direct opposite side of where the plane hit?

IS IT?

Or maybe THEY HID RUMSFELD.

1)Why were there explosions reported AFTER the planes had hit?

This is the way a fire works. Fire builds, coming into contact with different incendiary compounds, causing explosions. Where were these explosions in the recorded audio of the WTC? I know, THEY ERASED THE AUDIO.

2)Why did senior firefighters report that they had seen flashes of light seconds before the explosions (i.e DEMOLITION DETONATORS)

Who are these "senior firefighters"? Why haven't they "come out"? I know, THEY HAVE BEEN PRESSURED INTO SILENCE.

5)why did the steel supossedly melt, when it takes 3000 degrees to turn steel molten and jet fuel burns only at 2000 degrees max.

NOVA: How high did the temperatures get, and what did that do to the steel columns?

Eagar: The maximum temperature would have been 1,600°F or 1,700°F. It's impossible to generate temperatures much above that in most cases with just normal fuel, in pure air. In fact, I think the World Trade Center fire was probably only 1,200°F or 1,300°F.

Investigations of fires in other buildings with steel have shown that fires don't usually even melt the aluminum, which melts around 1,200°F. Most fires don't get above 900°F to 1,100°F. The World Trade Center fire did melt some of the aluminum in the aircraft and hence it probably got to 1,300°F or 1,400°F. But that's all it would have taken to trigger the collapse, according to my analysis.

NOVA: You've pointed out that structural steel loses about half its strength at 1,200°F, yet even a 50 percent loss of strength is insufficient, by itself, to explain the collapse.

Eagar: Well, normally the biggest load on this building was the wind load, trying to push it sideways and make it vibrate like a flag in the breeze. The World Trade Center building was designed to withstand a hurricane of about 140 miles an hour, but September 11[SIZE=-2]th[/SIZE] wasn't a windy day, so the major loads it was designed for were not on it at the time.
As a result, the World Trade Center, at the time each airplane hit it, was only loaded to about 20 percent of its capacity. That means it had to lose five times its capacity either due to temperature or buckling—the temperature weakening the steel, the buckling changing the strength of a member because it's bent rather than straight. You can't explain the collapse just in terms of temperature, and you can't explain it just in terms of buckling. It was a combination.

NOVA: So can you give a sequence of events that likely took place in the structural failure?

Eagar: Well, first you had the impact of the plane, of course, and then this spreading of the fireball all the way across within seconds. Then you had a hot fire, but it wasn't an absolutely uniform fire everywhere. You had a wind blowing, so the smoke was going one way more than another way, which means the heat was going one way more than another way. That caused some of the beams to distort, even at fairly low temperatures. You can permanently distort the beams with a temperature difference of only about 300°F.

NOVA: You mean one part of a beam is 300°F hotter than another part of the same beam?

Eagar: Exactly. If there was one part of the building in which a beam had a temperature difference of 300°F, then that beam would have become permanently distorted at relatively low temperatures. So instead of being nice and straight, it had a gentle curve. If you press down on a soda straw, you know that if it's perfectly straight, it will support a lot more load than if you start to put a little sideways bend in it. That's what happened in terms of the beams. They were weakened because they were bent by the fire.

But the steel still had plenty of strength, until it reached temperatures of 1,100°F to 1,300°F. In this range, the steel started losing a lot of strength, and the bending became greater. Eventually the steel lost 80 percent of its strength, because of this fire that consumed the whole floor.

If it had only occurred in one little corner, such as a trashcan caught on fire, you might have had to repair that corner, but the whole building wouldn't have come crashing down. The problem was, it was such a widely distributed fire, and then you got this domino effect. Once you started to get angle clips to fail in one area, it put extra load on other angle clips, and then it unzipped around the building on that floor in a matter of seconds.

 

[TROLL]

....

The hole was the size of the airplane.

correction.. the hole was the width of the cockpit/passenger carrier... WITHOUT the wingspan and engines...

Where is this piece of wreckage? Did NWO, TLC, CFR, and Bilderberg troops take it away to George Bush the Lizard King before he committed a human sacrifice?

wow.. i dont have to ask where you have been when its obvious you spent much of your time in front of a video game.. to answer your sorry exscuse for a sarcastic answer.. it was carried off with the rest of the so called "debris" and straight to the recycler..

Why can a man online quote anything and make it sound factual? Why does it reinforce the conspiracy story when there is absolutely no evidence?

Why does a man feel offended and obligated to answer a question with a question?? if he feels that the mans quotes make it sound factual then that man is a great orator

"What wheel? There is no wheel."
"Dont you see? They took it and HID IT."

makes sense..again.. off too the recycler with the rest of the "debris"

Have you seen how Bush and Co operate? They believe in hiding things from public view even if they don't need to.

what makes more sense... honestly.. hiding something just to do it.. or hiding something because it exposes something?..

Maybe a plane crashed into it.

??? duh.. im askin if its a coincidence...

IS IT?

again answering my question with a question...
Or maybe THEY HID RUMSFELD.
hid?? or strategeically(<<-sp?) placed?

This is the way a fire works. Fire builds, coming into contact with different incendiary compounds, causing explosions. Where were these explosions in the recorded audio of the WTC? I know, THEY ERASED THE AUDIO.

correction.. there ARE recordings of these explosions by MANY diffrent media.. Reporters, Firefighters stating over the radio, police.. ALL have reported and recorded these explosions...they tried to say it was the ovens in the kitchens when janitors AND cooks say that the explosions they heard couldnt have been caused by ovens even given the fact that these explosions were no where near the kitchens..

Who are these "senior firefighters"? Why haven't they "come out"? I know, THEY HAVE BEEN PRESSURED INTO SILENCE.

They have come out.. and were promptly fired..

NOVA: How high did the temperatures get, and what did that do to the steel columns?

Eagar: The maximum temperature would have been 1,600°F or 1,700°F. It's impossible to generate temperatures much above that in most cases with just normal fuel, in pure air. In fact, I think the World Trade Center fire was probably only 1,200°F or 1,300°F.

Investigations of fires in other buildings with steel have shown that fires don't usually even melt the aluminum, which melts around 1,200°F. Most fires don't get above 900°F to 1,100°F. The World Trade Center fire did melt some of the aluminum in the aircraft and hence it probably got to 1,300°F or 1,400°F. But that's all it would have taken to trigger the collapse, according to my analysis.

NOVA: You've pointed out that structural steel loses about half its strength at 1,200°F, yet even a 50 percent loss of strength is insufficient, by itself, to explain the collapse.

Eagar: Well, normally the biggest load on this building was the wind load, trying to push it sideways and make it vibrate like a flag in the breeze. The World Trade Center building was designed to withstand a hurricane of about 140 miles an hour, but September 11[SIZE=-2]th[/SIZE] wasn't a windy day, so the major loads it was designed for were not on it at the time.
As a result, the World Trade Center, at the time each airplane hit it, was only loaded to about 20 percent of its capacity. That means it had to lose five times its capacity either due to temperature or buckling—the temperature weakening the steel, the buckling changing the strength of a member because it's bent rather than straight. You can't explain the collapse just in terms of temperature, and you can't explain it just in terms of buckling. It was a combination.

NOVA: So can you give a sequence of events that likely took place in the structural failure?

Eagar: Well, first you had the impact of the plane, of course, and then this spreading of the fireball all the way across within seconds. Then you had a hot fire, but it wasn't an absolutely uniform fire everywhere. You had a wind blowing, so the smoke was going one way more than another way, which means the heat was going one way more than another way. That caused some of the beams to distort, even at fairly low temperatures. You can permanently distort the beams with a temperature difference of only about 300°F.

NOVA: You mean one part of a beam is 300°F hotter than another part of the same beam?

Eagar: Exactly. If there was one part of the building in which a beam had a temperature difference of 300°F, then that beam would have become permanently distorted at relatively low temperatures. So instead of being nice and straight, it had a gentle curve. If you press down on a soda straw, you know that if it's perfectly straight, it will support a lot more load than if you start to put a little sideways bend in it. That's what happened in terms of the beams. They were weakened because they were bent by the fire.

But the steel still had plenty of strength, until it reached temperatures of 1,100°F to 1,300°F. In this range, the steel started losing a lot of strength, and the bending became greater. Eventually the steel lost 80 percent of its strength, because of this fire that consumed the whole floor.

If it had only occurred in one little corner, such as a trashcan caught on fire, you might have had to repair that corner, but the whole building wouldn't have come crashing down. The problem was, it was such a widely distributed fire, and then you got this domino effect. Once you started to get angle clips to fail in one area, it put extra load on other angle clips, and then it unzipped around the building on that floor in a matter of seconds.

pff yeah that makes sense.. "it was the wind blowing in diffrent directions that caused the towers to collapse" LOL didnt even address the fact that an entire floor burned years back for 8 hours..

Accepting an explanation by someone proven to be untrustworthy is a sign of a feeble mind.. for it takes effort to process thought and would require thinking for yourself... for a neo con and blind followers like yourself, the best question is the question that isnt asked... my condolences too your self thought..