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Wow, I've never been called self righteous before. Or pompous. Didn't mean to come off like that. I just dislike discrimination, and sometimes I get carried away with defending those being discriminated against. This is all just type on the internet and I get caught up. I can't change anyone's opinions on here. All I can do is offer up a different view.
 
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Huh? Can a straight man date his straight sister? Probably a bad idea by American standards. Incest and the products of are usually not good. Inbred kids and all. Hurts the kids. That's why it's bad in general. Generations of inbreeding makes for messed up people. As for, um.. gay.. incest.. I guess that is bad..? I usually draw the line at rational points. Me and my girlfriend can be happy together and hurt none. But if she's a mass murderer who eats babies, then I would yell at her and tell her that is wrong. Bad lesbian! No eating babies!

But there's straight folks who are fucked up too. Orientation isn't indicative of being mentally ill. Gay guys can be incestuous, and so can straight guys. I draw the line where there's harm. If there's a gay, incestuous couple running around I'll think it's weird as hell, and I would thank all that is good that they're not of opposing genders as to bring inbred babies into this world.

Judgment call, that is all. Harm in general. Emotional and physical harm is still harm. How does it emotionally hurt someone to see a gay couple? It harms them only if they let it. If they're so insecure over their own sexuality that they dwell on seeing someone else embrace their homosexuality. That is all.
i never mentioned heterosexual incest btw, i would hope that we all consider that wrong, so the question is why do we consider it wrong? So you guess gay incest is bad? You point out that a gay incestuous couple is weird and not neccessarily bad, and you infer that its not bad because its not a straight brother and sister due to the complications of possible inbred babies. well what if the hetero incestuous couple uses contraception and theres no chance of the hetero incestual couples having kids. surely you would still say that this is wrong wouldnt you???? that would be the same as gay incest. no one is harming anyone right? or are they? so is it harmful? is it still wrong? there are so many holes and gaps in your line of thinking. so where is this rational point you draw the line at? what are your moral standards? seems to me like they criss cross and zig zag all over the place. A lot of people (not neccessarily any of you posting on this thread) who support gay people make a lot of contradictions in what they believe is ok. some say that love is never wrong. you could say that about incest, a pedophile, or a person loving an animal. some say its ok as long as they dont harm anyone. but causing harm is relative. As of yet no one has provided a a concrete reason why being gay is ok.
 
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Being gay is Ok along the same standards as being straight is Ok. My line of thinking may not be able to catch every ball your throw from weird angles.. I mean, if I said being straight wasn't Ok because a father rapes his daughter, is that legitimate as a fact? You're using the same logic. I am saying that being gay, and not hurting anyone is ok. And you're throwing these insane situations at me that could also happen with a straight person.

Of course I am using my own morals to make these opinions, but I don't decide anything.. A gay couple, living happily together is fine. I am not sure what you are asking then, because I don't see a problem with being gay. If I were to take the other side, I'd say being straight is bad because you're overpopulating this damn world. What's good about being straight? You make babies and it's the "normal" way to be. What's wrong with being gay? It isn't normal and it scares you.

There's always weird, extreme situations and I am not in the position to judge every one. I will be wrong now and then, or most of the time.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
WAIT, WAIT, HOLD ON A SECOND. LMAO, are you implying that the world is NOT billions of years old? lmao, please tell me I'm misunderstanding what you wrote.
its impossible for it to be. But hey you think carbon dating is accurate hahaha thats funny its been proven it isnt.

@Crow- Not a crzed religious zealot, just real.

Oh yeah for the record, one day we all will find out whats after life wont we. How did we get here evolution hahaha thats bullshit at least human evolution in a sense we came from monkeys. If someone believes we came from monkeys they are stupid. But hey you cant argue with people who are angry with God about themselves.

Other then that have a good day because outside this thread we are all people.

Oh yeah Being Gay is about as right as robbing your moms purse.

You should wear make up/
Because most of your life is made up...King Koopa.
 
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Pino said:
Incest is wrong because it produces birth defects, plain and simple. Beastiality. . . .self-explanitory. There can be a pshycological impact on the kid if the gay couple were to adopt, but that remains to be seen.

you obviously didnt read the rest of what i wrote, or anything i quoted for that matter. you missed the point entirely
 
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i officially eject myself from this thread, its going no where really fast, and for the record, there are many flaws in cannibalcrow's and 2-0 sixx's line of thinking that they can not see themselves.
 
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Home-E said:
i officially eject myself from this thread, its going no where really fast, and for the record, there are many flaws in cannibalcrow's and 2-0 sixx's line of thinking that they can not see themselves.
Ok. Thanks for the discussion.
 
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Rob S4 said:
its impossible for it to be.
Please explain why.

But hey you think carbon dating is accurate hahaha thats funny its been proven it isnt.
Actually, it has not been proven inaccurate. It has been shown to be some what inaccurate after a certain amount of years (50,000 or so), but highly accurate for matter that is younger than 50,000 years. Anything older is when other methods are used.

If you want to know how old a mummy is, use carbon dating. If you want to know how old a rock is, use radiometric dating or other available methods.

@Crow- Not a crzed religious zealot, just real.
So in other words, you’re a crazed religious zealot?

Oh yeah for the record, one day we all will find out whats after life wont we. How did we get here evolution hahaha thats bullshit at least human evolution in a sense we came from monkeys. If someone believes we came from monkeys they are stupid. But hey you cant argue with people who are angry with God about themselves.
If someone believes evolution means humans come from monkeys then they are truly ignorant and shows how little they know about the subject. Humans and monkeys have common ancestors, not humans evolved from monkeys.


You should wear make up/
Because most of your life is made up...King Koopa.
Wow, that’s deep.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Please explain why.



Actually, it has not been proven inaccurate. It has been shown to be some what inaccurate after a certain amount of years (50,000 or so), but highly accurate for matter that is younger than 50,000 years. Anything older is when other methods are used.

If you want to know how old a mummy is, use carbon dating. If you want to know how old a rock is, use radiometric dating or other available methods.



So in other words, you’re a crazed religious zealot?



If someone believes evolution means humans come from monkeys then they are truly ignorant and shows how little they know about the subject. Humans and monkeys have common ancestors, not humans evolved from monkeys.




Wow, that’s deep.


Think what you want. Call me what you want, we will find out one day wont we. And Chamillionare is real tight. Get your mind correct.
 
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Alright here is what I believe, If the earth was in fact billions of years old then wouldnt we have advanced farther in society then this. Its things like that and just the way we are. I dont know 2-0, I dont know it all nor do I want to, I know a little bit and thats all I can go on. Peace.
 
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Honestly, you can believe whatever you want, I’m cool with that; the only issue I have is when people say “that is wrong!” but don’t explain why. If you can admit that you don’t have the answers about certain things, then that’s fine by me, it’s just when you say “carbon dating has been proved inaccurate” or “the earth is not billions of years old” or whatever, without explaining yourself, I’m going to call you on it. Other than that, I have no problem with your beliefs.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
See, this is exactly what I said to Locc. You simply think its "nasty", its "gross", you are disgusted by it. In other words, you're simply reacting to the "Gross Factor." I'm sure you've looked at lesbian porn many times in you're life and I bet you've even been turned on by it. Why is that? Isn’t that gay? Could it be comrade that it’s because you're attracted to women? See what I’m saying, you're against homosexuality simply because you're not attracted to men and you think it's gross, but deep inside, you don’t really have an issue with gay lesbians because two hot chicks going at it isn’t gross or “nasty”, now is it?
I have never bought, rented, or watched lesbian porn.. You are making assumptions.. It isn't really appealing to me.. Real shit.. The only reason lesbians are more acceptable to me is because I'm looking at it from the perspective as a man with a son, (this is now the 3rd time I've said this) maybe if I had a daughter it would be different so I can't relate. But the same principles apply for them too, do I think two lesbians should be able to raise a child, fucc no.
 
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^^ Haha hell, even I've watched it. I assume most women haven't. I've never rented it. I've been in a porn store.. maybe three times in my life. I have a male friend who doesn't like the idea of lesbians in a sexual way. Doesn't like lesbian porn, and requires that there be a man in the porn alongside the woman. A few of his friends always seem incredulous.
 
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does everything on here require an explaination..i've seen porn where a scene with two females doing what they do but i've never sat down and watched the shit.. cannibal crow pretty much summed it up for me, thats how i feel