Hip Hop Music Raising a Tragic Crop of Teen Age Pimps and Prostitutes

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Hip Hop Music Raising a Tragic Crop of Teen Age Pimps and Prostitutes

by Joe C. Hopkins, Journal Publisher

Recent articles in the Oakland Tribune Newspaper in Northern California and the Vallejo Times, report on the results of investigations of the rising number of teenaged pimps and prostitutes in the Oakland and San Diego communities. With roots directly tied to the Hip Hop culture, boys as young as 12 are convincing young girls in the same age category to have sex with older men and give them the money. Dubbed "the tennis shoe pimps", the boys are convincing the girls to trade their ‘sexual’ favors for a share of the money for cosmetics, concert or movie tickets. The girls are convinced it’s safer to sell sex than to sell drugs. I ask the question, "Safer for who, the boys?"
In my book, "I Will Not Apologize", one article entitled "The Trojan Horses In Our Communities" compares the mythical Trojan Horse of Greek Mythology that brought their enemies into their gates, such as we in our communities are doing, to the beat of Gangster Rap music. I call it "Gangster Crap" music, being brought into our Black commuinties. If the Greeks had investigated the Trojan horse they would have found their enemies and destroyed them before they themselves were destroyed by the enemies which they themselves had brought into their midst. Likewise, the message behind the beat of today’s crap music is successful but detrimental to the Black communities.
For those who say that the brothers are just making money with their crap music, then the same logic applies to those who pimp our girls or sell drugs in our communities, they too are making money. But the problem is that they are not "JUST" making money, they are destroying our community in the process.
Bolstered by their economic success the Rap industry has become bolder and now are less subtle in their music. The ‘Crapper’ 50 Cent whose recent recording, called "Pimp", is quoted in one British magazine (Woman 2 Woman) saying, "Man bitches come and go, every Ni*g*a pimping know." The essence of the song’s message is that women are useful in the pimp business, but for little else. And the beat is there, like the Trojan Horse, the message behind the beat holds danger for Black folks everywhere. And now we have Janet Jackson showing the world her breast as part of the music. Why is that necessary, or have we allowed so much that people don’t know the difference between good taste and bad taste and right and wrong? Anything goes I guess. Is this what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? Are we next?
What I see is a generation that will accept pay to demean Black people in as many ways as possible. They're ignorant to the design to keep them out of competition with the rest of America. Black women fill two thirds of all seats in Black Colleges while brothers are seemingly trying to figure out new ways to pimp them. In California Black men are convincing Black women with jobs to take care of them often getting them to steal from their jobs to support them. This is a new brand of pimping, and T- shirts are popping up with the insignia NPA (National Pimping Association) on them.
The question is, "Where is the opposition from our so-called leaders and churches to the fast moving influence of this demonic music? Well The NAACP has nominated R. Kelly for an Image Award, in spite of being prosecuted for his sexual antics with teen aged girls. A few years ago they nominated the foul mouthed Jay-Z for an Image Award. Ebony glorified Russell Simmons in a recent front page article with an article showing how he spends money on Beverly Hills mansions outside the ghettoes where he sells his sisters demeaning music.
At a recent Awards event where Simmons was honored at a Black tie dinner he snubbed the crowd and by inference to the pioneers of Black music by saying that the Hip Hop generation was better than any who had gone before. He also snubbed the producers of the Awards event by showing up in a cap and jogging suit while the instructions said Black Tie (Formal only). Maybe that is part of the generation of hip hoppers who when they see the word FRONT (on a cap) they wear it to the BACK. Black Colleges are bringing the crappers onto campus to perform and further indoctrinate the most talented of our people.
At a recent Martin Luther King parade in Los Angeles foul language crap music was blaring from one of the floats just before the gunshots started. At a recent Black College Expo in Los Angeles fights broke out and the police were called in to stop the fighting after the crappers were brought in to perform.
Our leaders are either so mesmerizzed by the shiny trinkets the crappers call "bling bling", or are so honored by just being close to the money and power of a Russell Simmons and the crappers, or they have taken on the theory of not airing our dirty laundry too far, or they have simply outlived their usefulness and are just taking up space while they fill their pockets with crap money, as we all await the arrival of a new breed of leaders who have their integrity and love for our people intact. If the spectacle of seeing our young girls pimped by tennis shoe pimps does not energize us to take up the banner of C. Dolores Tucker and form new organizations to meet the challenge of the Trojan Horse crappers in our community, what will? If you have ideas contact me at the Journal.
 
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sounds like some parents need to step up and teach there children right and wrong..if kids 12 years old are pimpin..or gettin pimped..its some household issues.....

but of course..now adays..everything is raps fault..
 
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But now, we gotta know that the words we say on these cd's has meaning to some people. Me myself, I don't believe the tv is as strong as this music. If mutha fukkas be honest for a minute, think about how your lifestyle has been influenced by this music. The alcohol we drink was probably made popular by the music we hear, the clothes we select was probably made popular by the music we hear, some of the slang we use, and a bunch of other shit. If the music influences us like that then it probably influences us in other ways - like the ways we handle conflicts, or whether we choose to do dope or not, or the way we categorize females.

I aint got no room to preach cuz I'm knee deep in it. I know the shit that Doomsday spits aint overall uplifitng. But at the least I'm aware that the shit we say goes directly into folks ear and then you got 30 other artists that you are listening to and they are all basically saying the same shit that we are saying. It's got to have an effect on a persons mentality.

To me it all comes down to if an artist gives a shit or not. Me myself, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I'm a hypocrite and I know it. I don't think we should just blame it on tv and parents. My moms raised me right as far as I am concerned but it sure as hell didn't stop me from doing a whole bunch of shit as soon as a nigga walked out the house. Matter of fact I don't think you can blame it on just 1 thing, but us artists gotta know that the words we spit has an influence on folks...

and with that, please pick up the new Doomsday CD "Survival Of The Siccest" March 16 - filled with a whole bunch of nasty violent lyrics:dead:
 
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Dats real talk right there. but i still feel that if you hear don't do this or that a million and one times than when you get into that situation that phrase might stick in your head enough to stop you from doing that wrong thang. but maybe i'm wrong i don't know but i do know that words and images hold a lot.
 
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yea, I mean first we have emotionally and even physically unavailable parents, then we have some shit talkin wanna be gangsters turned P.I.M.P. ta ring in the kids ear all day like its tha cool thing ta do, sad case. What else can people expect.
On that note, ....waiting on the real passion of Christ. 1
 

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I THOUGHT PARENTS RAISED KIDS GOOD OR BAD... MUSIC CAN ONLY INFLUENCE THE EASILY INFLUENCED. IF SOME ONE IS SO EASILY INFLUENCED MEANS THEY MAY HAVE LACKED SOMETHING GROWING UP, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARENTS COME INTO PLAY. UNFORTUNATLEY TODAYS YOUTH ARE USUALLY WITHOUT THERE PARENTS FOR WHAT EVER REASON. THE GENERATION THAT WILL BE WORSE THAN THIS ONE IS THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN LOSING THEIR FATHER TO GUNPLAY OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY KIDS ARE FATHERLESS FROM COAST TO COAST SINCE 1989... THEM THE KIDS THAT'S GONE BE THE WORSE CAUSE AT SOME POINT MOMS WILL LOSE TOTAL CONTROL OF THEIR SONS.... TRAGIC CAUSE MOST OF THESE KIDS ARE EITHER BLACK OR BROWN....
 

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BEFORE RAP, ROCK AND ROLL WAS PROSICUTED FOR BEING POPULAR, AND TREND SETTING... I THINK ITS A LINE OF HORSE SHIT, AND A POOR EXCUSE FOR THE MEDIA TO BLAME A BRAND OF MUSIC FOR ITS COMMUNITY'S DOWN FLAWS....


FUCK THE SOURCE MAGAZINE AND ANY PUBLICATION THAT DOESNT OWN UP TO ITS OWN PROBLEMS WHICH THEY CREATED...


my 2 penny's


here goes some more crap music for you... for free of course....

http://www.dugoutent.com/dutch.html
 
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DUTCH-F.E said:
BEFORE RAP, ROCK AND ROLL WAS PROSICUTED FOR BEING POPULAR, AND TREND SETTING... I THINK ITS A LINE OF HORSE SHIT, AND A POOR EXCUSE FOR THE MEDIA TO BLAME A BRAND OF MUSIC FOR ITS COMMUNITY'S DOWN FLAWS....


FUCK THE SOURCE MAGAZINE AND ANY PUBLICATION THAT DOESNT OWN UP TO ITS OWN PROBLEMS WHICH THEY CREATED...


my 2 penny's


here goes some more crap music for you... for free of course....

http://www.dugoutent.com/dutch.html
I agree...people need to stop looking for scapegoats. As Eazy-E once said, "Records don't make anyone do nothing. You MAKE YOURSELF get up and do that."

PEACE!
 
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yea it seems like in this day & age people wanna point ta finger everyother direction but they own, including alotta artists talkin alotta bullshit. Too bad tho, the kids dont know anybetter and are jus looking for direction. no one seems ta take that into consideration when they speak over a cool beat.

And most kids without dads are because the dads a deadbeat.
 
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yea it seems like in this day & age people wanna point ta finger everyother direction but they own, including alotta artists talkin alotta bullshit. Too bad tho, the kids dont know anybetter and are jus looking for direction. no one seems ta take that into consideration when they speak over a cool beat.

And most kids without dads are because the dads a deadbeat.
Yeah, expect to see a lot more of that finger-pointing shit, because remember: this is an election year, and those politicians are gonna jump on this "blame the media for everything" bandwagon just to get elected. Clinton and Bush did it in '92 w/ the hype over Ice-T's "Cop Killer", Dole did it before the '96 elections (when he criticized Rap), and then Eminem was made a scapegoat in 2000 (Bush Vs. Gore). Shit's real fucked up...

PEACE!
 
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yeah I've been hearin a lot about those young ass pimps in San Diego. they supposedly have a pretty big network.

pimpin been around since the first though, its ridiculous to blame rap music for it
 
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Yea, and the key difference here is kids dont listen ta politicians, they listen too musicians. I feel you tho mayng, peace.
sav-man said:
Yeah, expect to see a lot more of that finger-pointing shit, because remember: this is an election year, and those politicians are gonna jump on this "blame the media for everything" bandwagon just to get elected. Clinton and Bush did it in '92 w/ the hype over Ice-T's "Cop Killer", Dole did it before the '96 elections (when he criticized Rap), and then Eminem was made a scapegoat in 2000 (Bush Vs. Gore). Shit's real fucked up...

PEACE!
 
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IF THE WHITE GOVEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD STOP PIMPING MINORITIES AND UNDER CLASS MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THESE FATHERLESS CHILDREN,PIMPS, DRUG DEALERS, AND KILLERS.

THATS CAPITALISM.

THE GOVERMENT USES TALKS LIKE THIS FOR VOTES .(STATED ABOVE) THEY THROW OUT FEAR AND SAY I HAVE THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROB.

BULLSHIT!!!!
ONCE THEY GET IN OFFICE THEY SEE(PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW) THAT WE NEED ALL THIS CRIME TO KEEP OUR COUNTRY RUNNING. TO KEEP MINORITIES BEHIND BARS SO THEY GET PAID KEEP POOR PEOPLE POOR. SO THEY CANT AFFORD HEALTH CARE, FOOD LIGHTS. SO THEY SELL DRUGS, COMMIT CRIMES, ABUSE DRUGS AND KILL. CAUSE LIFE SUX

AND WHAT YA GONNA DO IF YOUR TRAPPED IN A BIG PILE OF SHIT?
SAY:" EXCUSE ME CAN YOU HELP PLEASE?"

WHILE THE CLEAN FOLKS ARE LIKE,

" I AINT DIGGIN IN THAT SHIT IM MIGHT GET DIRTY.FUCK YOU"

SO YOU DO WHAT U GOTTA DO TO SURVIVE AND GET OUT OF THAT PILE OF SHIT.

AND THEN THEY BLAME YOU FOR SMELLING LIKE SHIT. .02
 
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ohh shit! haha real spits, its a lose, lose situation these days, we in BONDAGE FOLKS!! Break FREE! 1-Luv
ECOSE said:
IF THE WHITE GOVEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD STOP PIMPING MINORITIES AND UNDER CLASS MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THESE FATHERLESS CHILDREN,PIMPS, DRUG DEALERS, AND KILLERS.

THATS CAPITALISM.

THE GOVERMENT USES TALKS LIKE THIS FOR VOTES .(STATED ABOVE) THEY THROW OUT FEAR AND SAY I HAVE THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROB.

BULLSHIT!!!!
ONCE THEY GET IN OFFICE THEY SEE(PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW) THAT WE NEED ALL THIS CRIME TO KEEP OUR COUNTRY RUNNING. TO KEEP MINORITIES BEHIND BARS SO THEY GET PAID KEEP POOR PEOPLE POOR. SO THEY CANT AFFORD HEALTH CARE, FOOD LIGHTS. SO THEY SELL DRUGS, COMMIT CRIMES, ABUSE DRUGS AND KILL. CAUSE LIFE SUX

AND WHAT YA GONNA DO IF YOUR TRAPPED IN A BIG PILE OF SHIT?
SAY:" EXCUSE ME CAN YOU HELP PLEASE?"

WHILE THE CLEAN FOLKS ARE LIKE,

" I AINT DIGGIN IN THAT SHIT IM MIGHT GET DIRTY.FUCK YOU"

SO YOU DO WHAT U GOTTA DO TO SURVIVE AND GET OUT OF THAT PILE OF SHIT.

AND THEN THEY BLAME YOU FOR SMELLING LIKE SHIT. .02