***Golden State Warriors 2010-2011 Offseason Thread***

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VanD

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^^^^and we'll get murdered on the defensive end with that small backcourt.
did u watch ellis last year? hes stronger than he looks and improved his de a lot. he can guard 2's and even guarded some 3's well last year. he fucked granger off 1 game.

and curry is big enough for any point in the league.

nelson is the problem for the teams lack of defense and rebounding, with him gone we wont be playing 6 foot 6 guys at power forward anymore.

sell the team asap. i hope 1 of the buyers makes a move to end this fast and not let the idiots make any stupid trades.
 

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Warriors Want David Lee

By Marcus Thompson
Sunday, July 4th, 2010 at 8:20 pm in Uncategorized.

Sure, the Warriors have three power forwards already. Still, they have their sights set on Knicks All-Star PF David Lee.

Several sources told me the Warriors are trying to do a sign-and-trade with the Knicks for Lee. I’m not sure of all the details, but I would call it a long shot. Probably nothing will happen until LeBron James makes up his mind. And there is no telling what kind of domino effect his decision will have, so it could be possible. It would likely require guard Monta Ellis (though in my opinion, Lee is much more appealing if he can play with Ellis and Stephen Curry). And, yes, the Warriors will probably have to overpay to get him.

Lee averaged 20.2 points and 11.7 rebounds last season, which in this market just might land him a max contract. I don’t think he’s a max contract player, but he might end up having New Jersey and Miami and Toronto bidding for him, which will certainly help his pockets.

The Knicks have offered Amar’e Stoudemire on a five-year, $100 million deal according to the NY Times’ Howard Beck. If the Knicks don’t get LeBron James, they will be in a scramble for Plan Bs and Plan Cs. I’m told they like Monta Ellis, but not sure if they like him enough to present him and possibly Stoudemire to their fans as the back-up plan to LeBron. Maybe they’d want a center more and take Andris Biedrins plus other stuff. Certainly, what the Knicks want factors in to sign-and-trade scenarios.

GM Larry Riley is going to have to sale Lee on the Warriors. Doesn’t seem like a hard sale for a guy who met with the Timberwolves (who would have to do a sign-and-trade). If Lee is choosing, I don’t see why Minnesota would be a more desirable place to land than with the Warriors. But New Jersey, Miami, Toronto – those are certainly nice options.

The Warriors’ stance has been if they trade Ellis or Biedrins, they would have to get someone great back. Is Lee that? He’s a 20 and 10 guy and All-Star. His style of play fits the Warriors. But is he good enough to move Ellis? Is he the difference-maker the Warriors’ need? Or will acquiring him and moving Ellis leave the Warriors still in search of another piece?

If you get Lee, Randolph or Wright has to go (probably Randolph because he has the most value). Is Lee worth losing Ellis and Randolph? I like Lee, not as a main guy but as a sidekick. Warriors fans will love him because he hustles, he boards and he finishes. And his game has improved.

* Don’t forget to factor in the sale stuff. Count me among those who just don’t believe the Warriors will be able to acquire someone with five years and $60 to $70 million on their contract. Not until the new owner comes in. Plus, giving up a ticket-seller like Ellis seems like an automatic no-no until th enew owner is identified.

To be sure, the new owner doesn’t have to be in place yet, or even announced. They could just know who it is, run it by him and get a yea or nay. But it seems like at least that would have to happen before a major move like trading for David Lee could be done.

* By the way, I’m told the Warriors have little to no interest in Al Jefferson. Despite being a beast down low, he has knee issues and he’s slow. He’s not a good passer out of the post and he’s expensive.
 

VanD

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but hoo-ray for al jefferson at 13 mill a year??? your logic baffles me sometimes....
jefferson is bigger and better than lee but i'd only consider it for biedrins or randolph, not ellis. - said before many times i want to keep ellis unless its for a star player.


i hope we dont do anything until the team is sold. players are being overpaid like crazy this summer and i'm glad the team didnt have money to be idiots with.
 
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SERIOUSLY, DAVID LEE IS NO BETTER THEN MONTA ELLIS, DAVID LEE IS GONNA BE OVERPAID WARRIORS DO NOT NEED THAT BECAUSE IN 1 OR 2 YEARS THEY WOULD JUST BE LOOKING TO TRADE AWAY LEES CONTRACT FOR EXPIRING SCRUBS ANYWAYS
Lee is a good-great player, he could be great if he would actually play some defense. I don't understand why he sucks so much at defending though, yet dude is one of the best rebounders in the game today. You gotta have some grit to get that many boards in a game so I just don't see why that dont translate into the defensive end with him.

I wouldn't make the trade if I were you guys personally. Ellis>Lee IMO.

But its still a pretty even trade damn near. Only if Lee would get his head out of his ass on the defensive side of things would this trade ever be worth it I think. His defense is piss poor and I don't see that happening over there where ya'll already lead the league in points given up. Not a good match for you guys.

Ellis would be a perfect match for us though....lol

COME ON TRADE EM GS!
 
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I really hope we don't get rid of Ellis...... Sign a free agent or something... fuck trading ellis.... I would be ok to part with AB, Wright, CJ, or even Randolph is we get something decent in return but not Monta
 
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LETS KEEP IN MIND THOUGH THAT IT IS THE NEW YORK POST WHO WROTE THAT THE KNICKS WOULD GET ELLIS, OF COURSE THE KNICKS WOULD BE ASKIN ABOUT THE WARRIORS BEST PLAYER, WARRIORS MIGHT NOT WANT TO TRADE ELLIS FOR LEE THEY MIGHT BE TRYING TO GIVE THEM ONE OF THE PF'S AND THE EXPIRING CONTRACTS SINCE NEW YORK WANTS TO HAVE CAP ROOM NEXT YEAR TO SIGN CARMELO
 

DubbC415

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just cuz we have a "small" team doesnt mean it has to be Nellyball. Nelly thrives on consistency thru inconsistency, an everchanging "rotation" of players at different positions, a different 5 players on the court at all times, mismatches. I think we could have a fast run and gun team but still play "big". the warriors, Nelly or not, can cause turnovers. Whats to say, even though it wont happen, that monta, curry, randolph, wright and biedrins wouldnt fuck shit up? and then the many other combos of players. its like a ghost of nellyball but u can do it more consistently and with more minutes spread around better.