God will heal her.....now shes dead!!!!
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^^So if 50,000 people prayed for one man who was dyeing of cancer and was oblivious of the prayer, would he be cured by this energy, tapped into by the religious? Or is it only beneficial to the individual who is doing the praying?
Wishful thinking, maintaining a positive attitude or meditation can help, in some cases, but prayer helping the sick and dying (whom are oblivious) will never work and in fact, studies have shown that its 50/50 (or in other words, the same chances of dying as those who do not pray or more frankly put- there is absolutely no evidence that prayer helps).
There have been numerous studies with thousands of patients, all with the same results- those who were prayed for were as likely to have a setback in hospital, be re-admitted, or die within six months as those not prayed for.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4681771.stm'
I’d also like to point out the recently departed John Paul II. Hundreds of millions of people prayed for him across the globe and what happened? He died, just like the rest of us, despite all of the “energy” that the religious drones tapped into.
Also consider the millions of Christian Scientists that substitute medical science with Christian Prayer and the countless number of babies, children and grown men and women who die every year as a result of this ridiculous practice, despite all the prayer.
Wishful thinking, maintaining a positive attitude or meditation can help, in some cases, but prayer helping the sick and dying (whom are oblivious) will never work and in fact, studies have shown that its 50/50 (or in other words, the same chances of dying as those who do not pray or more frankly put- there is absolutely no evidence that prayer helps).
There have been numerous studies with thousands of patients, all with the same results- those who were prayed for were as likely to have a setback in hospital, be re-admitted, or die within six months as those not prayed for.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4681771.stm'
I’d also like to point out the recently departed John Paul II. Hundreds of millions of people prayed for him across the globe and what happened? He died, just like the rest of us, despite all of the “energy” that the religious drones tapped into.
Also consider the millions of Christian Scientists that substitute medical science with Christian Prayer and the countless number of babies, children and grown men and women who die every year as a result of this ridiculous practice, despite all the prayer.
See now thats just some bull shit. I hope you one day become wealthy and somebody takes you for all your chips. Seem to me you hate on people just because they have money. That has nothing to do with your morals, but more to do with jelousy. So you might want to take a look at your self in the mirror and let go of all that anger and hatred for those well off from birth, or those who worked hard to become well off.
Get rich, then spread the wealth and help those who want to do the same but dont have the chance.
Get rich, then spread the wealth and help those who want to do the same but dont have the chance.
That shit's fucked up. A family friend's wife and her parents were big church freaks. Their baby had a high fever, I believe it was 103 or so. It was WAAAAY up there, so while the father is at work, the mother and her parents call the church members and they all come to the house to "pray" for the baby so "god" will "heal" the child. When the father finally gets home from work and sees what's happening he flips out and rushes the baby to the hospital. It was too late, the baby died not long afterwards.
how about...
Take your damn kid (or other) that may be sick or need medical attention..
and while they are in the hospital..PRAY..that everything comes out alright..
while you may think prayer works..
it has been proved to NOT work...more than to work..
and believe me homie..
my family is a huge religious family ..
so i know...what im saying is true..
and then when their prayer doesnt happen..
its "well God wanted it to be this way"..
im pretty sure God didnt want these little kids to die..cuase of their parents ignorance..
THANK G-O-D...my parents were never this ignorant..
5000
I would go to a hospital first and foremost. Anything else is folly.
I believe faith and prayer can "tip the scales", so to speak, but in no way does it change what is predestined. The Pope was dying. He could have survived, but he didn't.
The fundamental fact is that he was dying. Whether or not 15 million prayed for him, he was dying, and he died. Does that change my belief that there is power in the fundamental energy that connects the spiritual world to the physical? No.
That's like saying "I invested all my money in Pets.com, and now I'm bankrupt. Investing does not work."
Now is there statistical legitimacy in the study 206 posted? Perhaps. Am I possibly a fool for believing that there is a spiritual realm, or that there is power in prayer? Once again...perhaps. But if the world is an existential nightmare - if nothing exists but physical life and death, and I choose "foolishly" to believe in spirituality - that is my decision, and I will not be hurt or hindered if I see purpose in my beliefs or actions whether or not they come to fruition.
206 is a communist. He believes in the power of socialism to achieve mankind's necessary steps to cohabitability, sustainability, and social justice. Is he wrong? Perhaps. Is modified capitalism the true solution to mankind's problems? Is an unregulated, lassez-faire economy the solution? I would argue against those statements, but I cannot statistically prove it. My belief, as unfounded or grounded it seems to others, is my prerogative, and I may *never* see validation in my lifetime of anything I believe. Such is the case with everyone else on this board.
I believe faith and prayer can "tip the scales", so to speak, but in no way does it change what is predestined. The Pope was dying. He could have survived, but he didn't.
The fundamental fact is that he was dying. Whether or not 15 million prayed for him, he was dying, and he died. Does that change my belief that there is power in the fundamental energy that connects the spiritual world to the physical? No.
That's like saying "I invested all my money in Pets.com, and now I'm bankrupt. Investing does not work."
Now is there statistical legitimacy in the study 206 posted? Perhaps. Am I possibly a fool for believing that there is a spiritual realm, or that there is power in prayer? Once again...perhaps. But if the world is an existential nightmare - if nothing exists but physical life and death, and I choose "foolishly" to believe in spirituality - that is my decision, and I will not be hurt or hindered if I see purpose in my beliefs or actions whether or not they come to fruition.
206 is a communist. He believes in the power of socialism to achieve mankind's necessary steps to cohabitability, sustainability, and social justice. Is he wrong? Perhaps. Is modified capitalism the true solution to mankind's problems? Is an unregulated, lassez-faire economy the solution? I would argue against those statements, but I cannot statistically prove it. My belief, as unfounded or grounded it seems to others, is my prerogative, and I may *never* see validation in my lifetime of anything I believe. Such is the case with everyone else on this board.