God is for the Weak, yes, that includes you too

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So I get to talking to this guy in my math class at school.

We are both working on some math equations and he starts talking aobut religion. He tells me, "You are a christian, right?"....to which I reply..."What do you think?"

He goes on to say, "Well I think you are because you seem like a nice family guy and you help me with this math, so I think you are a 'good guy', thus, you are a christian."

So I put it on him....I tell him that I am not a Christian and that I am actually a full-blown Atheist. He asks me why and I tell him because I realized how much in my life I do not need God or A God to do what I do. I go on to tell him that my life, since I said Fuck God, has been sooooo much better. And I am not saying that because God exists, but because I quit waiting for miracles to happen and understand now that we control out own lives.

So............

He tells me that he wouldnt be the man he is if it wasnt for God. He states that Jesus changed him and he would be dead if it wasnt for Jesus.

To which i reply....."It is to bad you need a reason such as the belief in Jesus to lead the life you do." I told him that he would never known I was Atheist if I didnt tell him. And I told him that peoples biggest misconception about Atheism is that we are all long haired, tattooed, freaks roaming the earth, and we arent. most of us are naturally good people that lead very normal lifes, but we do not NEED God to live a "good" life.

Anyway......this is the email he sent me after class was over, later that night:

JLMACN,
I wanted to take just a moment to Thank You for a couple of things, and I meant to do it today.
1) Thank You for your patients and help during this math class. I appreciate the extra time and effort you have put in to make sure that this old guy is making it. It really does mean a lot to me.
2) I wanted to Thank You for our good conversation last week about God, and being or not being a Christian. When ever I meet someone like you who is not a believer, I automatically assume that God put you in my life for me to save you? I forget that it works both ways and sometimes non-believers are put in my life to help stregthen me and my relationship with God. And that is Exactly what you did. After our conversation, I thought about all we talked about all night and the next day, and it opened my eyes and my heart even more to the man I want to be for Jesus. Thank YOU for helping me. Whether you believe or not, you are working for God.

And, just so you know, After careful thinking about your question "would you be the same with out God?" NO, I would definitely not be the same guy. (been there, done that...and it wasn't pretty)

Again, Thank you for both of these areas and I will try to always keep you and your family in my prayers.

God Bless

Michael
Fucking weak minded bitches....

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The Apostate JLMACN said:
And I am not saying that because God exists, but because I quit waiting for miracles to happen

HAHAHA, EXACTLY, THE SEED WHICH FELL UPON THE STONES!!!!! I PROVE MYSELF RIGHT

and understand now that we control out own lives.
who said we didn't? LOL, I guess your dad is weak and blind. And according to your logic it's his fault, AND NOT HUMAN NATURE OR THE NATURAL PROCESS OF LIFE, who's at fault. LOL! God BLess your father man
 
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I have never understood why Atheisim (sp?) is so looked down up on in the US.
The way people are christians in the US looks almost like a sect from my view from Europe to the US.

I don't know what the definition of Atheist is in the US but I am one aswell and I have short hair and look "normal" like the next man. Also I am very helpfull friendly and kind to persons close or strangers... I prefer to do "good" rather then harm to people... most moral values I tressure you can compare to christian values I think (not sure since I am not one)
Altho most christians I know myself are shallow/materialistic/sneaky backstabbing/ego centric motherfuckers... none is really living up to Jesus word... the proof of this already starts when they look down up on an atheist ... I alway's thought we are all equal
 
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Iaoish said:
Altho most christians I know myself are shallow/materialistic/sneaky backstabbing/ego centric motherfuckers... none is really living up to Jesus word
Then chances are Brother, THESE PEOPLE AREN'T CHRISTIANS.
 
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Yet they go to church, yet they pray, yet they talk about god. Why should I open the discussion they are or are not? It would not be my place to judge them about that because. I just let them be and couldn't care less if they see them selfs christians but for me they are not christians

Judge not for you shall surely be judged
 
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Yet they go to church, yet they pray, yet they talk about god. Why should I open the discussion they are or are not? It would not be my place to judge them about that because. I just let them be and couldn't care less if they see them selfs christians but for me they are not christians
Altho most christians I know myself are shallow/materialistic/sneaky backstabbing/ego centric motherfuckers... none is really living up to Jesus word
Brother you've already passed Judgment LOL! We as Christians do not judge other yes, but we must rebuke or correct our brothers with scripture, and if they don't change their blood is not on our hands. In James Chapter 5:16, if you may bare with me, it says ,"Confess your faults to one another, and pray for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

You can either do three things, ignore him, help them realize what wrong they are doing, to pass judgment.
 
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You my internet friend are wrong. I did not pass judgement on any. It may seem that way over the internet but that is false.

You can either do three things
You miss again. There are three things I can do according the bible. But you fail to see that not every man follows the bible.
 
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Everyone is different.....i dont think hes weak for believing in god...he depends on the bible and his belief in god to get him by like you depend on your self to get you by.I believe that everyone has a belief system,it might be religion which is the most common belief system society has pushed on us,or it might be totaly different.......without some sort of belief system we would all go crazy.

Heres a good read on that...

http://www.fringewisdom.com/your_belief_system.php
 
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iaoish said:
You miss again. There are three things I can do according the bible. But you fail to see that not every man follows the bible.
this is my opinion, there are many other things you can do in the bible, but for the sake of not bring them up and many ignoring it, I didn't bother to bring them up. I could have easily gave more than three option internet friend.
 
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I wanted to Thank You for our good conversation last week about God, and being or not being a Christian. When ever I meet someone like you who is not a believer, I automatically assume that God put you in my life for me to save you? I forget that it works both ways and sometimes non-believers are put in my life to help stregthen me and my relationship with God. And that is Exactly what you did. After our conversation, I thought about all we talked about all night and the next day, and it opened my eyes and my heart even more to the man I want to be for Jesus. Thank YOU for helping me. Whether you believe or not, you are working for God.
i've heard this a number of times...it reminds me of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_EY1k0-NQ
 
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HAHAHA, EXACTLY, THE SEED WHICH FELL UPON THE STONES!!!!! I PROVE MYSELF RIGHT

who said we didn't? LOL, I guess your dad is weak and blind. And according to your logic it's his fault, AND NOT HUMAN NATURE OR THE NATURAL PROCESS OF LIFE, who's at fault. LOL! God BLess your father man


Shut the fuck up you fucking Chink......You aint proved shit.

You had a "miracle" happen which is why you even claim there to be a God. Didnt your mom have aids or something for being a phillipine hooker? and then it miraculously went away....so you are your hoe mom said "God" did it?

or something like that....

You sit here and laugh because I said there are no such thing as miracles but your whole belief is based on your mom being healed of Aids.

Go die already, so you can see Heaven.....

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Everyone is different.....i dont think hes weak for believing in god...he depends on the bible and his belief in god to get him by like you depend on your self to get you by.I believe that everyone has a belief system,it might be religion which is the most common belief system society has pushed on us,or it might be totaly different.......without some sort of belief system we would all go crazy.

Heres a good read on that...

http://www.fringewisdom.com/your_belief_system.php
yes this makes sense to me..
 
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Then chances are Brother, THESE PEOPLE AREN'T CHRISTIANS.
Who the fuck are you say someone isnt a Christian. You idiots make me laugh more and more. You all claim to be christian, practice differently, have different views on how you need to live, but all assume you are going to heaven.

Thats like all of us doing 2 + 2 differently and coming up with different answers but saying we are all right!

You fucking idiots have NO logic in your beliefs. It is just "We believe something that we just CAN NOT explain"...

Let me go laugh a little bit more..
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You show how pathetic you are calling someone pathetic because believing in something makes them stronger, while you show how weak your belief system is because you were tired of waiting for your dying blind father to become whole(healed). You show how retarded you are by resorting to name callings because you disagree with someone's belief? Yet you don't see any spiritual person, OR SELDOM see a spiritual or religious person doing what you do. Your Just a sad obese man, who hates on Everyman or woman that believes in something you stopped believing in because you couldn't wait for a miracle. LOL! I'm done, have fun acting like a kid.
 
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Oh shut the fuck up and go pray on a mountain....errr....I mean your basement.

I called you names from the get so quit acting like this is something new you piece of shit. You keep saying I want my father healed and my beliefs have NOTHING to do with that. Go fuck your hoe mom.....

That bitch need to die along with you so Jesus can have some chinese food.

^^^hey that rhymed...

give me a beat bitch..


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people can believe in whatever they want as long as they don't force their shit on me. Why are you guys being racist and talking about people's parents?
 
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aristotle,plato,einstein,galileo,and mlk jr, i suppose these were weak minded people also.why talk bad about someones elses beliefs when all of us are looking for answers to the question [why we are]?
 
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I admit to being weak without Jesus, without whom I am guilty of everything you charge, without whom, I am an undeserving wretch who is only saved through God's grace, not upon my own merit. I would be let down quite often if I put my faith in men, so I put my faith in God
whose love succeeds where mine and others fails.
 
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lol, just let everyone do what they do, i honestly see why Christians are so widely hated but its no reason to REPEATEDLY attack them for it with talk about their parents and puns at their faith.

i dont honestly see how anyone can call you a good family man specially if your teaching your kids so much arrogance and hate, which hopefully your not.

and its funny after talking to you, the guy is indirectly saying you seem weak minded by your own theory. and it amazes me that you even try to bring these types of topics up being that you cant even have an intelligent conversation, you jump straight to name calling and attacks on character. doing this isnt the way to learn anything, so your not accomplishing anything besides looking like a man with an anger problem, lol. but we are the weak minded ones correct?
 
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lol, just let everyone do what they do, i honestly see why Christians are so widely hated but its no reason to REPEATEDLY attack them for it with talk about their parents and puns at their faith.

i dont honestly see how anyone can call you a good family man specially if your teaching your kids so much arrogance and hate, which hopefully your not.

and its funny after talking to you, the guy is indirectly saying you seem weak minded by your own theory. and it amazes me that you even try to bring these types of topics up being that you cant even have an intelligent conversation, you jump straight to name calling and attacks on character. doing this isnt the way to learn anything, so your not accomplishing anything besides looking like a man with an anger problem, lol. but we are the weak minded ones correct?
:lick::lick::lick::lick::lick::lick:

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