Funny shit.Penn & Teller.....On 9-11 conspiracy theories. I agree with them in fact..

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If you want to learn more about provable facts of 9/11 I suggest you check out the documentary film The Truth and Lies of 9-11 by Michael Ruppert. You can find the 2004 update version DVD on most of the .torrent sites or the original on Google Video. It is by far the best 9/11 documentary due to the credibility of Michael Ruppert, the way the facts are methodically presented and that Mr. Ruppert focuses on facts that can be documented and proven and not making wild conclusions that are more opinion and what if's than documentable facts.

When you bring up 9/11 films most people (especially those younger than than 30) will cite Loose Change 2nd edition as THE film to watch. While I agree it has some valid points (regarding to the WTC 1, 2, 7 collapses) it is full of disinfo and unproven conclusions when it covers the pentagon and flight 93.

If you are still skeptical of government involvement the films Truth and Lies of 9/11 and Michael Rupports newer film Denial Stops Here which is more of a compilation of newer footage from his speaking engagements from 2001 - 2005.
 
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Geez,conservatives, liberals and communists are morons.........They hate truth. Glad I'm a libertarian.........you will see soon.........the liberal moonbat democrat party will become null and void........Libertarianism will take over the Democrat party.




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Eternal Designs said:
If you want to learn more about provable facts of 9/11 I suggest you check out the documentary film The Truth and Lies of 9-11 by Michael Ruppert. You can find the 2004 update version DVD on most of the .torrent sites or the original on Google Video. It is by far the best 9/11 documentary due to the credibility of Michael Ruppert, the way the facts are methodically presented and that Mr. Ruppert focuses on facts that can be documented and proven and not making wild conclusions that are more opinion and what if's than documentable facts.

When you bring up 9/11 films most people (especially those younger than than 30) will cite Loose Change 2nd edition as THE film to watch. While I agree it has some valid points (regarding to the WTC 1, 2, 7 collapses) it is full of disinfo and unproven conclusions when it covers the pentagon and flight 93.

If you are still skeptical of government involvement the films Truth and Lies of 9/11 and Michael Rupports newer film Denial Stops Here which is more of a compilation of newer footage from his speaking engagements from 2001 - 2005.
Did you like Farenheit 9/11?
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Did you like Farenheit 9/11?
No. Michael Moore didn't even get close to any of the many fact of 9/11 and chose to make it look like it was because GW took too much time off that 9/11 happened. I'll give him credit for bringing up the saudis and bin ladens being able to fly out of the country when no one else was. For example he hyped up the 7 1/2 minutes that Bush stayed at Booker after being told of the attack. But he failed to to completely connect the dots as to why that was so important in understanding Bush's involvement. At that moment, if we are to believe Bush had no foreknowledge, all that was known was there was upto 20+ airliners in the air with missions to strike major buildings. It was public knowledge Bush was going to be at Booker several days in advance. Also Booker is within several miles of a major airport. So that would make the president a target and make it more dangerous for him to stay put. Lets talk about the Secret Service. Their #1 job is to protect the president AT ALL TIMES from harm. They deemed it safe to allow the president to stay where he was. This means they were certain he wasn't a potential target. How could they of known this UNLESS there was foreknowledge of the targets? If they didn't have foreknowledge they would of IMMEDIATELY rushed in, grabbed the president and wisked him away to a secure location. Also why did Florida Gov Jeb Bush declare MARTIAL LAW 3 days prior to 9/11? And he didn't even touch NORAD standing down for the first time in its close to 40 year history.

Michael Moore is just another NWO shill. He gives a little truth to seem like a outsider but its full of disinfo.

this1guy said:
Geez,conservatives, liberals and communists are morons.........They hate truth. Glad I'm a libertarian.........you will see soon.........the liberal moonbat democrat party will become null and void........Libertarianism will take over the Democrat party.
Political parties are just a way to devide and conquer. Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans. If you don't believe me just look at their voting records. Nancy Pelosi (House minority leader) says even if the dems get a house majority she won't support impeachment. Barbara Boxer voted for Iraq, the patriot act, renewing the patriot act, confirming Hayden for CIA, confirming Alito... Now some of the other parties are not are currupted as the main two but they are no less [SIZE=-1]supseptable [/SIZE] to curruption. The way to fix congress is to fire every single one of them, kill lobbying (legalized bribes), and return congress to a part-time congress. Other wise no matter who it is in office they can be bought. Clinton deserved to be impeached, just not for the BS infidelity/perjury charge he was brought up on. 2008 will probably bring in another democrat (possibly another Clinton) to quiet the liberals into thinking all will be right again. In the end its just two separate but equal "gangs" who are run by the same bosses. Then again by 2008 we may be under total martial law/dictatorship. There is already a plan to retract the 22nd amendment that puts term limits on the president. FEMA is openly building concentration camps. We lose more rights every day.

Just remember it only takes a few to resist to win. When they start coming for your guns don't give them to them. Make them take them from your bloodly hands. A disarmed population is a enslaved population. I'd rather give my life than my liberty.
 
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Eternal Designs said:
No. Michael Moore didn't even get close to any of the many fact of 9/11 and chose to make it look like it was because GW took too much time off that 9/11 happened. I'll give him credit for bringing up the saudis and bin ladens being able to fly out of the country when no one else was. For example he hyped up the 7 1/2 minutes that Bush stayed at Booker after being told of the attack. But he failed to to completely connect the dots as to why that was so important in understanding Bush's involvement. At that moment, if we are to believe Bush had no foreknowledge, all that was known was there was upto 20+ airliners in the air with missions to strike major buildings. It was public knowledge Bush was going to be at Booker several days in advance. Also Booker is within several miles of a major airport. So that would make the president a target and make it more dangerous for him to stay put. Lets talk about the Secret Service. Their #1 job is to protect the president AT ALL TIMES from harm. They deemed it safe to allow the president to stay where he was. This means they were certain he wasn't a potential target. How could they of known this UNLESS there was foreknowledge of the targets? If they didn't have foreknowledge they would of IMMEDIATELY rushed in, grabbed the president and wisked him away to a secure location. Also why did Florida Gov Jeb Bush declare MARTIAL LAW 3 days prior to 9/11? And he didn't even touch NORAD standing down for the first time in its close to 40 year history.

Michael Moore is just another NWO shill. He gives a little truth to seem like a outsider but its full of disinfo.


Political parties are just a way to devide and conquer. Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans. If you don't believe me just look at their voting records. Nancy Pelosi (House minority leader) says even if the dems get a house majority she won't support impeachment. Barbara Boxer voted for Iraq, the patriot act, renewing the patriot act, confirming Hayden for CIA, confirming Alito... Now some of the other parties are not are currupted as the main two but they are no less [SIZE=-1]supseptable [/SIZE] to curruption. The way to fix congress is to fire every single one of them, kill lobbying (legalized bribes), and return congress to a part-time congress. Other wise no matter who it is in office they can be bought. Clinton deserved to be impeached, just not for the BS infidelity/perjury charge he was brought up on. 2008 will probably bring in another democrat (possibly another Clinton) to quiet the liberals into thinking all will be right again. In the end its just two separate but equal "gangs" who are run by the same bosses. Then again by 2008 we may be under total martial law/dictatorship. There is already a plan to retract the 22nd amendment that puts term limits on the president. FEMA is openly building concentration camps. We lose more rights every day.

Just remember it only takes a few to resist to win. When they start coming for your guns don't give them to them. Make them take them from your bloodly hands. A disarmed population is a enslaved population. I'd rather give my life than my liberty.
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I always thought Penn and Teller were magicians/comedians

i remember them being guests to Rachel Rays food show on the Food Network
 
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Ricky530Furl said:
^^^wow.....judging their background as magicians and comedians i,myself would never take them seriously
SO they could never be right about something because they have successful carreers in magic and comedy? That's pretty shallow thinking, homes.
 

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^YUP, DON'T ATTAK THE MESSENgER, BUT THE MESSAgE.

BUT I JUST SEEN ALL THE SEASON ON COMCAST ON DEMAND. I AgREE WITH SOME OF THEIR STANCE, BUT 9-11 IS NOT ONE OF THEM. I REALLY RECCOMEND FOR THOSE IN DOUBT ABOUT 9-11 TO HIT THE OPEN YOUR EYES THREAD BY COCA-LEAFS. SOME OF THOSE LINKS WILL OPEN YOUR EYES(AND AIN'T TALKIN' ABOUT THE ALIEN SHIT).