Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez - September 14, 2013

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Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez

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JLMACN

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T-Rip said:
Come on dude, give credit where credit is due. Mayweather sells fight, love him or hate him. Not referring to you obviously but to say Floyd is cherrypicking is pretty dumb. Rasan had a good point but at the same time Mayweather and Canelo were damn near planning this fight before Canelo fought Trout they just didnt make it official cuz it would have been stupid if they did.
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TRip no where did I say Floyd was cherry picking. I honestly believe Floyd would have preferred to fight Canelo next year, Cinco De Mayo. That would have given Canelo an opportunity to make his fan base even bigger by beating someone else.

But because Floyds numbers were bad in his last fight (or not as good as they thought) then I honestly believe Showtime put pressure on Floyd to fight Canelo.


Or Floyd is starting to feel his age and knows his body isn't holding up as well so he wants to fight him earlier than later. But mark my words......there will be 2 Canelo fights. 1 this year and 1 next year.
 
CZAR

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battle619 said:
CZAR @CZAR a lot of people inculding Floyd said they had the Canelo Trout fight very close. If Trout was that good then it would have made more sense to fight Trout than Canelo. I think that would be even a tougher fight than this one coming up and that's the fight I would have rather see. Trout embarrased Cotto, Floyd didn't. So I can see why people would say Floyd is cherry picking on this one.
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Of course the Canelo/Trout fight was close. What does that have to do with anything. I also disagree and think Canelo is a much better opponent for Mayweather than Trout. Canelo has real punching power and is much bigger fighter. I think Floyd would easily beat Trout actually. Got Em!!
 
Rumpelstiltskin

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Canelo is a much better opponent than Trout.
I sort of see it playing out the same way the fight with Hatton did, without the KO.
He might take 2 of the first 3, but over time Floyd should pick him apart.
Stamina is going to be key and Floyd conserves energy with the best of them.

I don't know why people talk about his legs so much. It's a waste of energy. If you can make people miss with upper body movement, why would you dance around all fight?
 
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battle619

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CZAR @CZAR I'm telling u the reason in my second to last sentence to you. What Trout did to Cotto was superb He walked away hella clean, yet Mayweather struggled. I personally think Canelo handled Trout with ease. It's a style issue for me. I think Trouts footwork, height,, and jabwork would actually get to Floyd and would outbox him. It's a legit boxer vs boxer fight
 
2-0-Sixx

2-0-Sixx

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Tony said:
Mayweather struggled because he's not a 154 pound fighter!
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Neither is Cotto.

Size played no role. Cotto has a very good jab and he used it well. He also used some good pressure, trapped Floyd against the ropes etc. Part of that was Floyd's willingness to stand in the pocket though. Against Guerrero Floyd used much more movement than he did against Cotto.
 
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battle619

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Exactly 2-0-Sixx @2-0-Sixx . I'm not saying Floyd is cherrypicking but for some people to say it makes sense. But I still got Canelo, who is not my boy, KTFO Floyd by 6!
 
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bigface

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bigface said:
Answer these questions Mr. Double talk. Which win was better Manny vs. Cotto at 145lb or Mayweather vs. Cotto at 154lb

Which is worst Manny ducking Mayweather for 3 years because of random testing, then asking a 140lber in Rios for random testing?

Or Mayweather asking for a catchweight against a fighters who called him out and was 172 on fight his last fight? )

I asked these questions a few days ago, and like normal not one person whining about catchweights answers any of them you guys just changed the subject. Why is that because if u answer those questions you will prove my point. If you say Mannys win is better the u have no reason to whin about the 152 catchweight, but if you say Mayweather wins over Cotto is better then you are taking anyway one of Mannys best wins. Lol.. You guys are too funny its so easy to expose your double standards. Now which one of u guys will have the guts to answer the questions. Lol.. I guess its's time for a subject change again.

Fyi, some of you already answered this question before will u flip flop now or will u duck like Manny and needles. Lol..
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Your questions aren't questions there loaded with your own opinion. As I've stated numerous times now Canelo vs Mayweather at 152 is legit and a great fight for everyone involved.

Obviously Pacquiao vs Cotto was a better win for Pac compared to Floyd's (u admitted this yourself).
 
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CZAR

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battle619 said:
CZAR @CZAR I'm telling u the reason in my second to last sentence to you. What Trout did to Cotto was superb He walked away hella clean, yet Mayweather struggled. I personally think Canelo handled Trout with ease. It's a style issue for me. I think Trouts footwork, height,, and jabwork would actually get to Floyd and would outbox him. It's a legit boxer vs boxer fight
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Ok thats cool thats what u think. I disagree. Also Mayweather didnt struggle against Cotto. Cotto won what 2-3 rounds at best so how is that struggling? Mayweather also didnt use as much movement as usual and allowed Cotto to get him on the ropes a few times but that was because he allowed it. He wasnt afraid of Cotto's punching power. In the end Mayweather won another wide margin decision so not sure what u mean lol. Trout didnt do that against Cotto and used a lot of movement. Believe if Floyd wouldve fought Cotto like he did Guerrero it would been another boxing clinic. Got Em!!
 
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He struggled with Cotto AT TIMES which we haven't seen in a long time, and bloodied up Floyd's face a bit which we haven't seen since going all the way back to Emmanuel Augustus! (Not counting Victor's dirty headbutt). I think most people gave Cotto 4 rounds.

It was enough for Mayweather to train with his father again and become more defensively orientated. I don't think Floyd was pleased by the amount of times he got hit by Cotto.

Floyd obviously he clearly won, and dominated the rounds he won, but Cotto certainly gave him some problems and Floyd struggled a bit.
 
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I'll add that we are so used to see Floyd dominate with ease it was a bit surprising to see him in a real tough fight. That's how good Floyd is that people trip out when he's in a competitive fight! Reminds me of Vitali vs Chisora, i was absolutely amazed that Chisora won four rounds and got major props for it since its been like 10 years since Vitali lost more than a couple.
 
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CZAR

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Ok Ill say he struggled a bit but like u said i think he allowed it by allowing Cotto to get him on the ropes. People thought his legs were gone but I think he just chose to fight that way and obviously while he won by a wide margin its still not the smart thing to do. He needs to fight like he fights and take advantage of his great skill set. He doesnt need to prove nuthin to anyone by going toe to toe and letting himself get hit lmao. Got Em!!
 
Coach E. No

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I think the biggest reason Cotto had success was that he would throw a combo but then add a jab at the end. He landed a heavy job quite a bit. Floyd was in his defensive posture and blocked most of the punches in the combination but then he'd peek out over the shoulder when he thought Cotto was done and a jab would come down the pipe. He had a bloody nose, no big deal. Happens all the time in sparring I'm sure. Cotto had his moments but hardly won any actual rounds.

I'm sure Floyd will utilize movement all night against Canelo. Canelo does have explosive power though. That's what I really took from the Trout fight. He was dog tired yet threw a huge right hand every so often, way faster than I thought he would be able to being that tired. Fact is though, that wasn't the type of fight that should've had Canelo that winded at this level of the game, at his age. He better step his cardio up.
 
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battle619

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Yeah, but Trouts cardio is insane! He worked hella hard in his last fight and he ballooned up to 171 too. I'm just saying style wise, Trout vs mayweather would be Floyds first loss.
 
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