Fallujah slaughter set to occur immediately AFTER elections

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.S. said readying for Fallujah showdown

By EDWARD HARRIS
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq -- American forces are gearing up for a major operation in the insurgent bastion of Fallujah, where up to 5,000 Islamic militants, Saddam Hussein loyalists and common criminals are hunkered down, U.S. officers said Friday.

U.S. planners believe many of Fallujah's 300,000 residents have already fled the city, which has become the symbol of Iraqi resistance and where militants last spring ambushed and killed four American contractors, mutilated their bodies and hung them from a bridge.

American officials stress that the final order to launch a big operation would come from Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, who has warned Fallujah to hand over followers of terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or face attack.

Allawi has issued no such order, but preparations are clearly under way, including the movement of British soldiers into areas close to Baghdad so that American forces can be redeployed for the showdown in Fallujah.

"We're gearing up to do an operation and when were told to go we'll go," Brig. Gen. Dennis Hejlik, deputy commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said at a camp near Fallujah. "When we do go, we'll whack them."

Meanwhile, Marines have been hitting Fallujah with frequent airstrikes, targeting buildings believed used by al-Zarqawi's followers. Marines have also launched probing attacks into Fallujah's outskirts to test insurgent defenses, Marine Col. Mike Shupp said.

Iraqi public outrage over reports of civilian casualties pressured the Marines into calling off their siege of Fallujah last April - a move which strengthened the insurgents' hold on the Sunni city 40 miles west of Baghdad and likely contributed to the dramatic deterioration of security in the capital itself.

The April siege came after the killing of the four U.S. contractors.

On Friday, a Sunni cleric in Baghdad, Sheik Mahdi al-Sumaidaei, warned the Americans and Iraqis against launching a full-scale attack on Fallujah. If they do, he said Sunni clerics in the capital will issue a fatwa, or a binding religious decree, ordering Muslims to launch street protests and a campaign of civil disobedience.

"Everybody knows that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is another lie like the WMD," he told The Associated Press, referring to Saddam Hussein's supposed weapons of mass destruction. Hardline clerics who rule Fallujah insist al-Zarqawi is not in the city - a claim disputed by U.S. and Iraqi officials.

U.S. forces plan to use U.S.-trained Iraqi forces - especially around Fallujah's many mosques - to avoid allegations that the attack is nothing more than a bid by the Americans to crush a city widely known in Iraq for religious piety.

"The difference this time is it's driven by the" interim Iraqi government, Hejlik said. "They're calling the shots."

U.S. and Iraqi authorities want to curb the increasingly violent Sunni insurgency in order to hold nationwide elections by Jan. 31.

As a sign that preparations are under way, the first wave of troops from the Black Watch regiment arrived at the base near Baghdad, the British Defense Ministry said in London. The Americans asked the British to send troops to the area to free up U.S. forces for an assault on Sunni insurgents.

The rest of the 850-strong battle group from the Black Watch regiment were to arrive over the weekend, the ministry said. The base is 20 miles west of Mahmoudiya, a town that has seen frequent insurgent attacks, according to the report.

The United States has offered a $25 million reward for the capture of al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian extremist who announced his allegiance to al-Qaida on the Internet this month. Al-Zarqawi's movement is responsible for numerous car bombings and beheadings of foreign hostages, including three Americans.

However, U.S. officials acknowledge that even if they kill or capture al-Zarqawi, the insurgency is likely to continue.

"Just if you chop off the head, Zarqawi, it won't stop the insurgency," said Maj. James West, a Marine intelligence officer.

Nevertheless, re-establishing control in Fallujah would cut vital links among insurgent groups and impact their ability to plan and carry out attacks, particularly in Baghdad.

"Baghdad is the heart of Iraq and this is the throat to Baghdad," West said.

He estimated that between 50,000 and 60,000 civilians remain in Fallujah, which had an estimated population between 250,000 and 300,0000.

Fallujah residents confirm that up to half the population left at the start of Ramadan this month although some have returned.

Shupp, the Marine colonel, said insurgents are fortifying positions and are blocking roads with cement barriers and cars. Some Arab reporters who visited Fallujah in recent weeks say many neighborhoods on the edge of the city have been abandoned with only fighters remaining.

In other developments:

- Kidnappers released a 7-year-old Lebanese boy a week after they grabbed him as he was walking home from school.

- Two car bombs exploded in the northern city of Mosul, killing an Iraqi civilian and slightly wounding five U.S. soldiers, U.S. and Iraqi officials said.

- Aqil Hamid al-Adili, an assistant to the governor of Diyala province, was killed by gunmen as he was sitting in a friend's office, police said. Al-Adili had warned of insurgent infiltration in Iraqi forces after 50 U.S.-trained Iraqi soldiers were killed last weekend.

- An American contract worker from Columbus, Ga., was killed Wednesday in a car bomb attack, the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer reported. Travis Schnoor, 39, died when his vehicle flipped over after hitting an explosive device, the report said.
 
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"Everybody knows that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is another lie like the WMD,"
i read that qoute like a week ago o like Yahoo..and its a strong one

thats what the Iraqis understand....and AMERICANS DONT GET....they are understanding the rhetoric..the bullshit phrases and terms... for the white house it's what THEY want and they try to make Americans think its fine cuz "zarqawi" is there and he chops off peoples heads...this goes along wiht what i posted about North Korea...and the white house referring to it as a "terrorist state"...

they are fucking with us..im tellin u man...its gettin bad too...the thing is..a year ago..i woudlnt have cared or even noticed this....BUT i see it now...i usta be a person perfectly fine being a american,supporting the white house,etc. its getting HARDER AND HARDER to support this country...the policy,decisions,etc. are all going down hill...9/11 kicked us in the ass..DEFINATELY...but the way we handled the awakening was led by a person who twisted and distorted 9/11...look at where we are now....its fucked up..
 
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"Everybody knows that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is another lie like the WMD,"
i read that qoute like a week ago o like Yahoo..and its a strong one

thats what the Iraqis understand....and AMERICANS DONT GET....they are understanding the rhetoric..the bullshit phrases and terms... for the white house it's what THEY want and they try to make Americans think its fine cuz "zarqawi" is there and he chops off peoples heads...this goes along wiht what i posted about North Korea...and the white house referring to it as a "terrorist state"...

they are fucking with us..im tellin u man...its gettin bad too...the thing is..a year ago..i woudlnt have cared or even noticed this....BUT i see it now...i usta be a person perfectly fine being a american,supporting the white house,etc. its getting HARDER AND HARDER to support this country...the policy,decisions,etc. are all going down hill...9/11 kicked us in the ass..DEFINATELY...but the way we handled the awakening was led by a person who twisted and distorted 9/11...look at where we are now....its fucked up..
Thats some real shit.
 
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AGENT707 said:
"Everybody knows that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is another lie like the WMD,"
i read that qoute like a week ago o like Yahoo..and its a strong one

thats what the Iraqis understand....and AMERICANS DONT GET....they are understanding the rhetoric..the bullshit phrases and terms... for the white house it's what THEY want and they try to make Americans think its fine cuz "zarqawi" is there and he chops off peoples heads...this goes along wiht what i posted about North Korea...and the white house referring to it as a "terrorist state"...

they are fucking with us..im tellin u man...its gettin bad too...the thing is..a year ago..i woudlnt have cared or even noticed this....BUT i see it now...i usta be a person perfectly fine being a american,supporting the white house,etc. its getting HARDER AND HARDER to support this country...the policy,decisions,etc. are all going down hill...9/11 kicked us in the ass..DEFINATELY...but the way we handled the awakening was led by a person who twisted and distorted 9/11...look at where we are now....its fucked up..

i swear to god i was the same way 2-3 years ago. then as i started to pay attension and read up on shit ive started to see the lil lies and games they play with my own eyes.

and i aint gonna lie at first i was shocked and id tell everyone that would listen that were being lied to. and theyed start sayin shit in talking points and spin that didnt adgress what i was talking about. but now im just like......ahhhh shit here we go again.

the goverment - media- billionair conspircy aint fake. i can see it now. its fuckin crazy.

i dont know whats worse, the fact that its goin on so out in the open and people dont relize it. or the fact that i see it so much now im no longer suprized at it.

fucked up and scary eighter way.
 

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THE BOMBING OF FALLUJAH HAS STARTED TODAY. JUST TWO DAYS AFTER THE ELECTIONS. NO REPORTS AS OF YET OF IRAQI CASUALTIES BUT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE VERY HIGH.

for our sake i hope their low.

this is gonna be the defining moment in all this iraq shit. right now the anger they feel toward our troops is at a steady simmer. if theirs massive civilians killed it will go right into a boil and then..................well its all bad.

i wonder if they will have the imbeded journalist like they did during the invasion. let us all see this shit first hand in real time on our tv stations
 
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We will NOT see the bombs landing on our TV screens. This is not vietnam, this is the age of spin and the age of journalists getting fired for taking pictures of US coffins.

My best wishes to the people of Iraq. I hope they stay strong and continue to fight the good fight against the Corporate Invasion led by greedy madmen in the whitehouse. The U.S can be defeated and this was shown to the world in Vietnam. The best technology is no match for the unity of people and the will to "fight to the death."
 
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its gonna happin HELLLLA soon. i read an article on YAHOO which qouted a commander(or w/e ranking) and he said they were waiting and ready,pretty much just waiting for the word. sooo its gonna go down in fallujah, theres no question about it.
 
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I was reading an imbedded journalist' diary online and he said most of Fallujah is desolate because all the citizens have gone elsewhere from the constant military skirmishes. I dont believe the "innocent" count will be that high. Most of the militants and resistance are in and around the giant mosque they have in Fallujah and they will be the majority of the ones to get blown to bits.

You have to understand that the military has been patiently waiting for the election to pass before they bring the full force of their explosives down on Fallujah. If it was up to them they would have already done what Mikey Savage has said on the radio many, many times.
 

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I was reading an imbedded journalist' diary online and he said most of Fallujah is desolate because all the citizens have gone elsewhere from the constant military skirmishes. I dont believe the "innocent" count will be that high. Most of the militants and resistance are in and around the giant mosque they have in Fallujah and they will be the majority of the ones to get blown to bits.


how do you know that most of the insurgance havent just wlked out with the rest of the civilans?
as far as anyone knows some stayed behind to fight the rest are moveing to another town to start all over again.

KEEP IN MIND THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TIME NOW THAT WEVE WENT IN THEIR TO "GET THE TERROST"

see thats the problem with fighting a faceless enemy. you NEVER know who, what, when and where.

for that reason alone you cant win the war on terror. and chances are you aint gonna beat them in iraq eighter.

but you cant tell us americans that. were a bunch of jhon waynes
 
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There were over 500,000 people living in Fullujah. The US reports say 60-70% (one always must question the accuracy of US reports) of the population has left. Do the math.



Shit already started people.

ROLLING: A convoy of American armored vehicles headed for Fallujah Thursday. US warplanes have been pounding insurgent positions in the northeastern and southern parts of the city in preparation for what could be an imminent attack. http://search.csmonitor.com/search_content/1105/p06s01-woiq.html

...The second vehicle, however, hit another antitank mine, blowing the 14-ton chassis into a muddy fishtail, tearing away a rear tire, and blasting open the armored rear doors, wounding two marines and an American photographer.

"There are berms, there is wire. They are there, and they are ready," says Lieutenant Webber. "They're not stupid - we killed all the stupid ones."
 

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There were over 500,000 people living in Fullujah. The US reports say 60-70% (one always must question the accuracy of US reports) of the population has left. Do the math.



Shit already started people.

eighter that means theirs over 150.000 fuckers waiting for us to come up in their. or a shit load of them got away and will pop up somewhere else.
 
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I dont think I've ever been more scared for this country.
well said,
think about the thousands of survivors and family members of those slaughtered who will come back at the US for revenge.

Either we need to annihilate the entire middle east, or we just leave them alone. Well it's too late for the latter so we might as well bring out the nukes.... it's essential for our security.