FACTUAL OR BULLSHIT?

[REDRUM559]

BITCH TO BEGIN WITH

CALIFORNIA , ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO, AND TEXAS WAS ARES MOTHA FUCKERS SO STFU

U LOST AT THE ALAMO STUPID BITCH ya US LOST IN THE ALAMO GOT KILLED DESTROYED

WE ARE JUST TAKING BACK WHATS ARES.

if we wanted to destroy the us all you have to do is create a new siccness import with mexican beers and products and destroy everyone one by one

STFU YOUR LUCKY MEXICO MAKES EVERYTHING FOR THE US FOR MINIMUM WAGE MONEY BITCH

OPEN YOUR MICROSOFT PRODUCTS AND TELL ME WHERE ITS MADE AT

WHEN YOU BUY YOUR CHEVY FORD OR DODGE (MADE IN MEXICO, ASSEMBLED IN CANADA)

ONLY THING THE US DOES IS FUCKIN MAKE HAMBURGERS AND WARS SO STFU.

GO BACK ON YOUR MAYFLOWER WHERE U CAME FROM CRACKER.

our military has more latinos and other rasces than white.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

IMHO if you are not rooted to the Western Hemisphere prior to 1492 you are an illegal alien. All this BS about illegal aliens from south of the imaginary line is just that BS because how can this american society forget that they are aliens themselves.

The times may have changed and american society may be in denial about being aliens themselves because their ancestors came over here and they had nothing to do with the genocide of the indigenous people of the western hemisphere but the effect of colonialization is still a felt through generational hate towards the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere calling a brown brother/sister from south of an imaginary line is BS. This is still a form of divide and conquer that european societies used to kill indigenous peoples off to proffit off of.

All this media coverage of this so called immigration issue is just a smoke screen for political gain pointing fingers trying to blame them for this economical erosion society is going through because corporations are going over seas with cheaper labor in other countries, with the loss of jobs here there has to be a scape goat right?

just my .02

Just one problem: we've had somethingl ike 30 straight quarters of economic GROWTH, and we've added millions of jobs in the last few years. This isn't about a struggling economy looking for a scape goat--this is about a vibrant economy that isn't as dominant as it could be because there is so much waste going on.



Lies in general are the problem--the economic lies 503 is being told, and the lies the public is being told about illegal immigrants.

Oh yeah, and the "Cali Mentality" has got to stop. You Californians seriously have no clue what you're talking about when you go around thinking that Illegal Immigrant labor dominates this country.....it doesn't. It dominates YOUR STATE, Texas and not too many others. The other 40-something states would do just fine (and do just fine) without it.

 

[LaKeRzz8]

BITCH TO BEGIN WITH

CALIFORNIA , ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO, AND TEXAS WAS ARES MOTHA FUCKERS SO STFU

U LOST AT THE ALAMO STUPID BITCH ya US LOST IN THE ALAMO GOT KILLED DESTROYED

WE ARE JUST TAKING BACK WHATS ARES.

if we wanted to destroy the us all you have to do is create a new siccness import with mexican beers and products and destroy everyone one by one

STFU YOUR LUCKY MEXICO MAKES EVERYTHING FOR THE US FOR MINIMUM WAGE MONEY BITCH

OPEN YOUR MICROSOFT PRODUCTS AND TELL ME WHERE ITS MADE AT

WHEN YOU BUY YOUR CHEVY FORD OR DODGE (MADE IN MEXICO, ASSEMBLED IN CANADA)

ONLY THING THE US DOES IS FUCKIN MAKE HAMBURGERS AND WARS SO STFU.

GO BACK ON YOUR MAYFLOWER WHERE U CAME FROM CRACKER.

our military has more latinos and other rasces than white.

I don't know who you're talking to or half of what you just typed because you're a dumbass, but if I think what you said is what you tried to say then WRONG! Mexico does not make everything for the US and if they stopped making what they do now we'd ship more stuff to China. Obviously the military will not be all white because the country is not all white. The country is a country made of immigrants from all places (Europe, Asia, South America, etc) which is fine as long as they are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Which is different than illegal immigrants. And if Mexico is so great why is the whole fucking country a big dump and in an economic crisis all the time? Why do so many Mexicans want to come here and work for low wages? Because it is still better than at home.

 

[REDRUM559]

I don't know who you're talking to or half of what you just typed because you're a dumbass, but if I think what you said is what you tried to say then WRONG! Mexico does not make everything for the US and if they stopped making what they do now we'd ship more stuff to China. Obviously the military will not be all white because the country is not all white. The country is a country made of immigrants from all places (Europe, Asia, South America, etc) which is fine as long as they are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Which is different than illegal immigrants. And if Mexico is so great why is the whole fucking country a big dump and in an economic crisis all the time? Why do so many Mexicans want to come here and work for low wages? Because it is still better than at home.

then if your whole military is being runned by many rasces why not give there reaces a chance for a new feature

actually mexico is poor because countries like the US that abuse mexicos minimum wages and laborers.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH LISTEN TO MEDIA THAT ISNT FROM THE U.S YOU DICKHEAD.

the united states controls the media. if you read foreign mexican history it tells how the US, took advantage of from the native indians to the black people to the mexican people.

US HISTORY JUST BRAIN WASHES YOU TO BELIEVE THE US IS BEST.

lmfao how come they dont talk about when the US try to take over canada 4 times and failed.

offtopic; my point is we are all immigrants, but answer mer this

WHAT IF YOU LIVED IN CUBA WITH AN OVERRUNNED DICTATORSHIP AND POOR AND YOU ONLY HAD LIMITED MONEY AND GOVERMENT OVER RUNNING YOU, WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE THIS GREAT COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WOULD YOU?

 

[The Anti-Vidual]

I don't know who you're talking to or half of what you just typed because you're a dumbass.

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

 

[LaKeRzz8]

then if your whole military is being runned by many rasces why not give there reaces a chance for a new feature

actually mexico is poor because countries like the US that abuse mexicos minimum wages and laborers.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH LISTEN TO MEDIA THAT ISNT FROM THE U.S YOU DICKHEAD.

the united states controls the media. if you read foreign mexican history it tells how the US, took advantage of from the native indians to the black people to the mexican people.

US HISTORY JUST BRAIN WASHES YOU TO BELIEVE THE US IS BEST.

lmfao how come they dont talk about when the US try to take over canada 4 times and failed.

offtopic; my point is we are all immigrants, but answer mer this

WHAT IF YOU LIVED IN CUBA WITH AN OVERRUNNED DICTATORSHIP AND POOR AND YOU ONLY HAD LIMITED MONEY AND GOVERMENT OVER RUNNING YOU, WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE THIS GREAT COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WOULD YOU?

I don't know what "runned" and "reaces" or a chance for a "new feature" but like I said before Legal Immigrants have many opportunities to succeed. My parents came from a pretty poor country and now I'm happy to say we're upper middle class and only getting better.

I'm sure that's not the sole reason for Mexico being poor. And if the government is not happy with the low pay then why do they continue to do the work? How come Mexico can't improve it's own economy and must rely on US outsourcing?

Oh yes, because other country's media does not have it's own self-agenda propaganda like US media.

I learned from US history books how US took advantage of Native Americans and all this shit. It happened. No one is denying it. But that is a long time ago, even your current Mexican people, yes the ones that speak Spanish, they also took over native Aztecs and Mayans.

I've been to other countries (Germany, Canada, France, Italy) and I am not brainwashed by the US government. I see that we are not an elite nation. We used to be and we caused lots of reforms elsewhere, but many other nations have since caught up.

Who really cares about Canada? HAHAHA

According to you, US is not such a great country and if I listened to the media in Cuba, which I guess does not brainwash like US media, then Cuba would be a perfect country and US would suck. And sure I would want to leave, but this thread was about illegals coming to California not Florida

 

[REDRUM559]

I don't know what "runned" and "reaces" or a chance for a "new feature" but like I said before Legal Immigrants have many opportunities to succeed. My parents came from a pretty poor country and now I'm happy to say we're upper middle class and only getting better.

I'm sure that's not the sole reason for Mexico being poor. And if the government is not happy with the low pay then why do they continue to do the work? How come Mexico can't improve it's own economy and must rely on US outsourcing?

Oh yes, because other country's media does not have it's own self-agenda propaganda like US media.

I learned from US history books how US took advantage of Native Americans and all this shit. It happened. No one is denying it. But that is a long time ago, even your current Mexican people, yes the ones that speak Spanish, they also took over native Aztecs and Mayans.

I've been to other countries (Germany, Canada, France, Italy) and I am not brainwashed by the US government. I see that we are not an elite nation. We used to be and we caused lots of reforms elsewhere, but many other nations have since caught up.

Who really cares about Canada? HAHAHA

According to you, US is not such a great country and if I listened to the media in Cuba, which I guess does not brainwash like US media, then Cuba would be a perfect country and US would suck. And sure I would want to leave, but this thread was about illegals coming to California not Florida

i thought california and florida were in the same country dayum thats weird.

 

[LaKeRzz8]

They are in the same country (and thanks for ignoring everything else because you know it's true) but we were talking about illegals from Mexico not Cuba. Cuba has a different government and they are not allowed to leave their country.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

This has been discussed many times on this site, and REDRUM559 isn't exactly the spokesperson of the people, unless we're talking about retards.

Check this link out if you're interested in this discussion:

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=235857&highlight=illegal+immigration

 

[LaKeRzz8]

Alright I'll check out the thread, thanks

 

[IronLungs420]

Oh yeah, and the "Cali Mentality" has got to stop. You Californians seriously have no clue what you're talking about when you go around thinking that Illegal Immigrant labor dominates this country.....it doesn't. It dominates YOUR STATE, Texas and not too many others. The other 40-something states would do just fine (and do just fine) without it.

stfu! cali mentality dont make me catch a a plane to washington or wherever you are just to slap the shit out of you dumb bitch. how is the rest of the country going to get vegetebals and fruits that are trasnported outta california. youre dumb ass is going to be paying like 5 bucks for a apple. and 10 bucks for a gallon of orange juice

 

[TRAJIK1]

Geirge Bush doesnt care about Surenos

lol

 

[Honestyiskey]

IMHO if you are not rooted to the Western Hemisphere prior to 1492 you are an illegal alien. All this BS about illegal aliens from south of the imaginary line is just that BS because how can this american society forget that they are aliens themselves.

The times may have changed and american society may be in denial about being aliens themselves because their ancestors came over here and they had nothing to do with the genocide of the indigenous people of the western hemisphere but the effect of colonialization is still a felt through generational hate towards the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere calling a brown brother/sister from south of an imaginary line is BS. This is still a form of divide and conquer that european societies used to kill indigenous peoples off to proffit off of.

All this media coverage of this so called immigration issue is just a smoke screen for political gain pointing fingers trying to blame them for this economical erosion society is going through because corporations are going over seas with cheaper labor in other countries, with the loss of jobs here there has to be a scape goat right?

just my .02

Couldnt agree more.



It's crazy how people are so quick to forget the circumstances that bring the Migrants of today here.. NAFTA: the majority of 'Latin' America is poor already, but Mexico has the 3rd richest man in the world, why? He profits off NAFTA and the slave work done by honest & hardworking people.. they're the ones with blood money stuffed down their throats at the cost of all this.. it's not the migrants you have to be worried about its what the GOVERNMENTS OF BOTH 'Latin' AMERICA & THE U.S. are doing because of it, think about it whose to gain and who's been persecuted all this time..

 

[Honestyiskey]

I learned from US history books how US took advantage of Native Americans and all this shit. It happened. No one is denying it. But that is a long time ago, even your current Mexican people, yes the ones that speak Spanish, they also took over native Aztecs and Mayans.

Actually it continues to happen on this land, the NATIVES are not being heard, look at the conditions on reservations where people have no clean water and high suicide rates.. to conditions on Native land in 'latin' america where American oil companies drill on their land and simply choose not to clean up the spills that run through their only water source because its simply ''cheaper'' not to.

also the word 'Mexican' comes from Mexica [Meh-Shee-Kah] when Mexico gained its independence from Spain they kept that name in honor of its indigenous culture.. when Spain came to Mexico they called the 'Aztecs' Mexicanos.. and Mexicans of today were victims of enslavement and genocide [Google Encomienda].. it happened throughout Latin America.. there was no 'peaceful gathering' to create the 'Mestizo race'...

but anyway, why judge these people? this new wave of anti-illegal sentiment is ignorant for the most part, makes me realize we havent progressed much as a country as there are still plenty of racist sentiments.

And for those who dont know, the new wave of immigrants are full-blooded Native Americans south of the border that have managed to fight off opression, many only know a Native tongue, and do not know Spanish, they too come here.

 

[GTS]

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 how good did that do?

 

[Dirty Shoez]

stfu! cali mentality dont make me catch a a plane to washington or wherever you are just to slap the shit out of you dumb bitch. how is the rest of the country going to get vegetebals and fruits that are trasnported outta california. youre dumb ass is going to be paying like 5 bucks for a apple. and 10 bucks for a gallon of orange juice

First of all.....you're a fucking idiot, so go ahead and hop a plane, and waste your money.

Second of all---you do it the fucking old-fashioned way: PAY WORKERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. Washington farm workers get paid almost 8 bucks an hour, the same as all other minimum wage workers in my state. Do you see our economy falling apart?

No...wait...that's YOUR state's economy falling apart. You add fuel to the fire, and then wonder why there's a massive blaze going on that you can't put out.

 

[REDRUM559]

First of all.....you're a fucking idiot, so go ahead and hop a plane, and waste your money.

Second of all---you do it the fucking old-fashioned way: PAY WORKERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. Washington farm workers get paid almost 8 bucks an hour, the same as all other minimum wage workers in my state. Do you see our economy falling apart?

No...wait...that's YOUR state's economy falling apart. You add fuel to the fire, and then wonder why there's a massive blaze going on that you can't put out.

sounds pretty fair to me

YOUR WORKING IN NICE COOL AC WHILE THE FARMERS ARE WORKING UNDER 110 DEGREE WEATHER TO FEED YOU SOUNDS FAIR DOESNT IN

i might be a retard but you just made me look good bro.

i should put tis in my job resemay <<<<< how eva u spell it.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

i might be a retard but you just made me look good bro.

i should put tis in my job resemay <<<<< how eva u spell it.

That is fuckin funny...:cheeky:

 

[Dirty Shoez]

sounds pretty fair to me

YOUR WORKING IN NICE COOL AC WHILE THE FARMERS ARE WORKING UNDER 110 DEGREE WEATHER TO FEED YOU SOUNDS FAIR DOESNT IN

i might be a retard but you just made me look good bro.

i should put tis in my job resemay <<<<< how eva u spell it.

Actually, I work in a musty warehouse thats often overheated, and my work is so hard that the union contract specifies we get overtime after.....5 hours. No, not 8 hours...5 hours. Within the first hour my shirts are soaking wet with sweat. And that's just a warm-up.

Don't talk to me about hard work. Lift 250 packages an hour that weigh an average 20 pounds, do it for 5 hours a day--and did I mention our only break is 15 minutes w/ no lunch?--do that for about 8 weeks without missing a day, THEN talk.

 

[Nuttkase]

Do you work at UPS or something? My friend works there and said more or less what you just wrote one time. The only reason he doesn't leave is because he gets paid decent and is a felon so it's not going to get much better then that.