Explanation of Blazer trade of Z-Bo....

[MrFedEx503]

This was a very rare trade, in that the Blazers sent a player out and got nothing in return. The fudge factor in a trade, as far as getting back what you send out, is 25 percent. In other words, if you send out 12.5 million, you only have to take back 10 million. Because of this factor, the Blazers created a trade exception in the Zach Randolph deal with New York.

Look at it this way. Zach and Dan Dickau were traded for Channing Frye and Steve Francis. The reason the Blazers were able to then pull the second part of the deal was where Fred Jones entered the equation. By adding Jones to the deal, the Blazers were able to then approach Phoenix and take a player off their hands (James Jones) and give them nothing but a cash in return. The Suns, who are trying to cut payroll, were so excited about this opportunity, they threw the 24th draft pick into the deal. That, of course, turned out to be Rudy Fernandez, who was considered by many the "steal of the draft" even though he won't play for the Blazers next season. Several execs said that if not for the buyout in his European contract, Fernandez would have most certainly been a lottery pick.

You don't see this kind of a deal very often because it really can only be executed in bigger trades, like this one. It took the creativity of Penn to discover a way to make this happen. Kevin Pritchard has publically given a lot of credit to Penn for making this deal possible. Another Western Conference executive was earlier quoted as saying, "there are maybe one or two guys in the league who could have pulled a deal like this off." It's about knowledge of the rules, and then having and owner and general manager willing to offer the support to execute the deal.

Once again, the Blazers basically gave up Fred Jones to the Knicks and didn't take anyone in return. By doing that, for one year, the team had the ability to replace Jones' salary plus $100k. They told Phoenix they'd take James Jones off their hands and the Suns wouldn't have to take anyone back. That's why I've termed it as the Blazers "created" the trade exception. I've seen it written a lot that the Blazers traded for a trade exception. That's not accurate. It is difficult to understand, however, and I had to have Penn explain it to me about 10 times to even get this much of an understanding of it. As Penn has told me, he had to do the same thing in the war room on draft night. It actually seemed too good to be true, and that's why he was asked to repeat himself about a dozen times.

This then can be actually viewed as two different trades, even though it came across as one big trade. It's basically, Zach and Dickau for Francis and Frye. Freddie for James Jones and Rudy Fernandez. When you add the second piece, and consider what's coming in the future, as far as cap room in two seasons, and the potential of Fernandez, the deal really gets attractive for Portland.

This is what I was tryin to explain, thank god for www.oregonlive.com/blazers


.. More info..

In other news Wednesday, the Blazers cleared up a couple of loose ends by requesting waivers on Steve Francis, who agreed to a buyout from the Blazers. In turn, the Blazers were able to finalize the draft-day trade with Phoenix that brought small forward James Jones and the rights to Spanish guard Rudy Fernandez.

Pritchard said he was pleased with the Francis buyout, which is believed to be around $30 million. The Blazers negotiated a 50 percent offset in the deal, meaning the team will get 50 percent cap relief from whatever Francis earns in the next two years. It is believed Francis will sign a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, probably for around $1 million this year and around $5 million next season. That means the Blazers will save about $3 million.

Pritchard also said that Portland fans will be pleased with the Jones addition, noting that the 26-year old has the personality to be a locker room leader. I asked Pritchard if he expects Jones to be the starting small forward this season, and he hesitated, saying he wasn't sure if he was done making moves. It confirms a suspicion I've had ever since the draft was done: Pritchard still has one big move left.

Credit: Jason Quick of oregonlive.com/blazers

 

[DubbC415]

dope shit. this is why sports in america are the way they are-things arent always what they seem to the average fan.

 

[MrFedEx503]

^exactly... what was surprising to me was the fact that our trade with PHX, had to do with our trade to NY... when your average fan takes that as two totally different trades that don't have to do with eachother

 

[DankedOut707]

I STILL THINK THAT TRADE WAS DUMB. Z-BO IS A MONSTER, SO WUT HE A THUG. DUDE CAN BALL

 

[[-KoRp$-]559]

I just thought of it as they wanted the players with negative attitudes to be shipped out so they're not an influence over Oden, whom they're building the franchise around. :ermm:

Yea that foo would probably kicked it with oden would of ended up fuckin up the team, cant take no chances he probably gonna get arrested soon anyway hes no loss fuck it.

 

[MrFedEx503]

^exactly I don't need Z-bo sneakin Greg Oden into Strip clubs

 

[MrFedEx503]

I STILL THINK THAT TRADE WAS DUMB. Z-BO IS A MONSTER, SO WUT HE A THUG. DUDE CAN BALL

a monster who scores and rebounds.... thats it, don't expect him to play ANY defense really, and I don't know how they plan on playin Eddy Curry and Z-bo at the same time

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

I STILL THINK THAT TRADE WAS DUMB. Z-BO IS A MONSTER, SO WUT HE A THUG. DUDE CAN BALL

Whats just as important to a team as talented players, is the attitudes. How far have the gotten with that "thug" attitude? Look at a team like the Spurs and Pistons, whom were in the finals. Some may not SAY the Spurs are a "classy" team, but you dont ever seen any of those players in the news for slappin their wives, gettin drunk and pissin on cars, etc.

The Pistions have been a very disciplined team for many years...and its paid off. They have GREAT team chemistry and plsy ball like youre SUPPOSED to play.

Alot of people thought trading Ben Walace was "dumb" and the Pistons matched IDENTICAL numbers throught out the year as they did WITH him...hmmmmmm.

Point is, talented players are great to have...but when they have the mentality of a Z-Bo, it doenst pan out to much now does it? Whats more important to a franchise, winning games and filling seats...or having one semi-star who is always causin drama and only fillin HALF the seats???

 

[MrFedEx503]

^ do work

 

[DankedOut707]

^ do work

LOL DO WORK SON DO WORK! 22'S!

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

My prediction is that the Blazers will make the playoffs this year, even if Oden puts up under 10 points ans 10 rebounds. They have too much young talent and a great coach not to....of course pending on how well Frye wants to prefomr and francis wants to pass...

 

[Quick]

There in the West tho? I think if they wouldve kept Z-ZBo they couldve made the place but I think that they took a step back with that. I think they will miss the playoffs but make it next year.

 

[Quick]

And francis is gone and Wallace was never trade, at least not to the bulls.

 

[DankedOut707]

I DONT THINK BLAZERS IS HITTIN PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR. I THINK GIVIN UP Z-BO IS ON SOME SQUARE BEAR SISSY MORAL SHIT. DUDE WASNT LOCKED UP AND WONT BE LOCKED UP. DUDE IS AVERAGIN DOUBLE DOUBLE. DUDE IS A BEAST PERIOD AND OWNS THE INSIDE. WISH HE CAME TO THE BULLS. HE WOULD FILL THE SPOT WE NEED AND WE WOULD HIT FINALS. JUST LIKE FOLKS PASSIN UP JAMESON CURRY CUZ DUDE GOT BUSTED SELLIN TREE WHEN HE WAS 17 BUT AVERAGED 17 POINTS LAST YEAR AND BROKE HIS SCHOOL RECORD WITH 3,3 07 POINTS BUT HE WAS STILL THERE FOR THE BULLS TO TAKE AT 51. DUDE CAN THROW UP POINTS AND IS A STEAL AT 51

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Z-Bo was above average in my eyes, not even a "star"....he is replacable is my point. The Blazers are gonna try and be a run-and-gun team with stingy transition defense...the same shti Nate ran in Seattle that got us to the playoffs in 03-04.

 

[MrFedEx503]

^exactly, having Z-bo there STUNTS the growth of lamarcus who is the next big thing in portland, along with more of a run and gun style, not throw it to Z-bo and have everyone stand around and watch him while he gets his great double/double and plays no defense

 

[MrFedEx503]

-Portland’s payroll for 2007-08 is about $74 million, a figure that will dip slightly when Steve Francis signs with another team. The Blazers bought out the remaining two years and $33.62 million of Francis’ contract for just under $30 million, but the club gets back half of what Francis signs for the next two seasons.

-The Blazers could find themselves with some $20 million to spend in a free-agent market the summer of 2009 that might include such names as Shawn Marion, Elton Brand, Carlos Boozer, Mehmut Okur, Kevin Martin, Andre Iguodola, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Andrew Bogut, Charlie Villanueva, Eddy Curry and Jamaal Crawford.

-Before Portland made the trade that sent Zach Randolph, Dan Dickau and Freddy Jones to New York in exchange for Frye, Francis, a trade exception that allowed Portland to obtain James Jones and the draft rights to Rudy Fernandez, New Jersey was considering a deal for Randolph that would have sent small forward Richard Jefferson to the Blazers.

More info for the people who don't think we got shit in this trade

 

[Quick]

Damn that wouldve been a nice trade if they wouldve gotten Jefferson. I understand what they did, I just think that wouldve been a better trade. And only two of those players will actually hit the market.

 

[Southend_206]

OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A SMART BY THE BLAZERS. THEY GOT RID OF A HUGE CONTRACT, SOMEONE WHO WAS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM BUT COULDN'T BE A LEADER. HE WAS WILLING TO GET INTO SHAPE, CHANGE HIS ATTITUDE, AND HIS STYLE OF PLAY DIDN'T FIT WELL WITH THE STYLE NATE IS COACHING. AND YOU GUYS GOT A LOAD OF YOUNG TALENT TO BUILD WITH BRANDON & GREG FOR THE FUTURE.

 

[MrFedEx503]

dont forget Lamarcus