dont know if this has already been discussed - anti-war song by WC, Bad Azz, Daz, etc
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yeah i agree the song is tight. its more of an anti-government song than anti-war song though. the wars they talkin bout though aint over -- the U.S. is establishing a miltary dictatorship in Iraq and a puppet regime. also they talk about the wars going on in the communities in this country - the war on "drugs" (poor people), etc.
I disagree w/ most of the bullshit brought up in the song..... but I think it's cool rappers are doing other things on record besides killing and fucking bitches.
Musicians have an outlet to voice their opinions...... but I have to say these actors that speak out on the war are outta line. They're all mis-informed anyway; just like the Dixie chicks wanting bombing out of Puerto Rico I think it was...... all these celebrities show up for a "good cause" to bash on our government and protest our millitary.... what great people right ? Nope, cuz as soon as we pulled our troops the economy of Puerto Rico (I think it was) went to shit...... and where were the celebrities and all their money when these people REALLY needed help ? nowhere to be found..... what a joke.... the list goes on but these people that oppose what we're doing over in Iraq need to step out and take in a nice breath or reality
Musicians have an outlet to voice their opinions...... but I have to say these actors that speak out on the war are outta line. They're all mis-informed anyway; just like the Dixie chicks wanting bombing out of Puerto Rico I think it was...... all these celebrities show up for a "good cause" to bash on our government and protest our millitary.... what great people right ? Nope, cuz as soon as we pulled our troops the economy of Puerto Rico (I think it was) went to shit...... and where were the celebrities and all their money when these people REALLY needed help ? nowhere to be found..... what a joke.... the list goes on but these people that oppose what we're doing over in Iraq need to step out and take in a nice breath or reality
I totally believe what the US did in Iraq was right... Saddam was a mad man that was in power for way too long... we should have handled the situation back in the early 90's... disarming saddam and taking him out of power is a good way any way you look at it... it is one less mad man running around with the capabilities to kill thousand to millions of people...
sup mezzano....long time no post bro....good 2 see ya back.
good shit on that track i didnt even know they had a track like that. its a sik track.
it funny that it is ok 2 attack another country even though they havent done shit 2 us >> i cant wait till the next michael moore movie...i heard it was gonna be about the ties bin ladin and saddam have 2 the bush family
good shit on that track i didnt even know they had a track like that. its a sik track.
it funny that it is ok 2 attack another country even though they havent done shit 2 us >> i cant wait till the next michael moore movie...i heard it was gonna be about the ties bin ladin and saddam have 2 the bush family
I like this mentality of "what did they do to us" I didn't realize until surfing BART how many truely ignorant people there were in the United States, but I'll break it down real quick. In no way would I consider myself to know everything that is going on over there, but there’s a few things you can’t argue. Think back to Hitler..... he was killing innocent Jews and needed to be stopped. Granted he started invading other countries (It took him 3 days to invade France..... what cowards) so there were other reasons to jump in and help other than JUST killing 1,000's of innocent people. With Iraq it's the same thing; Saddam was killing 100,000's of his own people...... do we all agree this isn't right ? I would hope so...... so anyway something had to be done to stop him, and we did......
Keep in mind that after he killed 1,000's of people the UN stepped in and said, "hey you can't do that" The UN tried this 14 seperate times and Saddam kept killing people...... so why could ANYONE sit back and not take millitary action ? Well I'll tell you why the French didn't..... because they've always been arrogant cowards and they will continue to be. They (along w/ Germany and Russia) were getting paid off Saddam being in power...... I'll explain later how the French even took it one step further.... but just recognize that MORE COUNTRIES WERE BEHIND THIS WAR THAN WERE FOR THE FIRST GULF WAR That's a fact.... you cannot dispute this. (and we find out later exactly WHY there are a few countries against it $$$)
and unlike any other United States president in the past (Bill Clinton) Bush is following through and taking out anyone that helped Saddam. He said in the beginning that it would be a long process but he is sticking to his guns...... which in my opinion is very admirable
Not to mention the fact that Saddam had numerous chemical weapons. This is something the Mezzano's of the world will also try and tell you isn't true. Listen, they found numerous chemical labs that when found had RECENTLY BEEN WIPED CLEAN of any fingerprints or chemicals. You'd have to be a moron to think those places weren't used to make weapons...... just because everything was moved to neighboring countries doesn't mean they weren't there and weren't going to be used against innocent people, namely terrorists using them against the U.S.
Does anyone on this board disagree that these Saddam's of the world HATE Americans ? I find it humerous that the people that stick up for Saddam and/or terrorist actions would also be TARGETS of the same people they're sticking up for. Wake up assholes.... take a breath of reality, it's nice out here..... these people are ruthless and don't care who you are, if you're american they want you dead.
Now back to the opposition to the war. The Cowards that call themselves the French were believed to actually HELP saddam and his top officials hide when we went in to bomb. How do we know this ? Because the arabic people keep VERY EXTENSIVE records and everytime we bust in a cave and take these people out they leave behind computers w/ bank roll logs. That’s why you see on the news there’s another member of the ‘deck of cards’ busted each day. It’s going to be a drawn out process but we’ll find everyone…… and sooner than later we’ll prove who helped Saddam. This will be a very long process but the assholes will be found and I am proud to say we've got a president FOR ONCE that will follow up and make them pay.
Keep in mind that after he killed 1,000's of people the UN stepped in and said, "hey you can't do that" The UN tried this 14 seperate times and Saddam kept killing people...... so why could ANYONE sit back and not take millitary action ? Well I'll tell you why the French didn't..... because they've always been arrogant cowards and they will continue to be. They (along w/ Germany and Russia) were getting paid off Saddam being in power...... I'll explain later how the French even took it one step further.... but just recognize that MORE COUNTRIES WERE BEHIND THIS WAR THAN WERE FOR THE FIRST GULF WAR That's a fact.... you cannot dispute this. (and we find out later exactly WHY there are a few countries against it $$$)
and unlike any other United States president in the past (Bill Clinton) Bush is following through and taking out anyone that helped Saddam. He said in the beginning that it would be a long process but he is sticking to his guns...... which in my opinion is very admirable
Not to mention the fact that Saddam had numerous chemical weapons. This is something the Mezzano's of the world will also try and tell you isn't true. Listen, they found numerous chemical labs that when found had RECENTLY BEEN WIPED CLEAN of any fingerprints or chemicals. You'd have to be a moron to think those places weren't used to make weapons...... just because everything was moved to neighboring countries doesn't mean they weren't there and weren't going to be used against innocent people, namely terrorists using them against the U.S.
Does anyone on this board disagree that these Saddam's of the world HATE Americans ? I find it humerous that the people that stick up for Saddam and/or terrorist actions would also be TARGETS of the same people they're sticking up for. Wake up assholes.... take a breath of reality, it's nice out here..... these people are ruthless and don't care who you are, if you're american they want you dead.
Now back to the opposition to the war. The Cowards that call themselves the French were believed to actually HELP saddam and his top officials hide when we went in to bomb. How do we know this ? Because the arabic people keep VERY EXTENSIVE records and everytime we bust in a cave and take these people out they leave behind computers w/ bank roll logs. That’s why you see on the news there’s another member of the ‘deck of cards’ busted each day. It’s going to be a drawn out process but we’ll find everyone…… and sooner than later we’ll prove who helped Saddam. This will be a very long process but the assholes will be found and I am proud to say we've got a president FOR ONCE that will follow up and make them pay.
if the logic to fight the war was strictly to remove a bad guy, why not get rid of sharone, the saudi royal family, that nut in north korea, the leaders of china who have the worst human rights records over the last 30 years. none of those guys should be in power either, but they are our friends (other then n. korea). why wasnt saddam such a bad guy when he was down with us? he killed more of his own people are deployed 8799 times the chemical weapons during that time. knowing all that you should be seein a big red flag or you should have a light bulb turn on or somethin. cmon man this is the real world. think.
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--->The U.S. needs 2 get off its high horse and face all the bullshit they been putting out in the world.
-the fact is the U.S. has also sponserd killing innocent people in many areas in the world as long as some one in the U.S. gets the money....and that aint no lie.
->how many of them countries behind the war were promised money? Turkey was one of the few who had balls enuff 2 say no...and they even gave in some. so the ONLY reason many contries were with us was cuz of $$$. The problem with the U.S. is that they just dont let other countries be....if u got oil--"fuck I want it", u got diamonds--"imma take that 2," yet the mass's here in the U.S. have no say and most are starving.
->>there has been no proof on chemical weapons...DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING U SEE ON TV. Also if they didnt fine WMD (a joke in its self) that mean they did destroy them and they were complying with the UN mandate. there are no links between bin ladin and saddam EXCEPT THAT THEY BOTH DID BUSINESS WITH THE BUSH'S. <<< so whats the new excuse for the war?
"I find it humerous that the people that stick up for Saddam and/or terrorist actions" << i have never heard people acctually stick up for Saddam....as a matter of fact most people believe he should not be in power. BUT there has 2 be a better way 2 deal with the situation....a number of other ways infact but the idiot that we have in office chose his wallet over reason.
-what rite do we have 2 go in 2 a soverign nation and kill 1 innocent person....think about it?
---it is rediculus(sp?) 2 think that a CNN poll asked, "would you support a war if 1,000 U.S. soldiers died? the majority said NO--But when asked "would you support the war if 1,000 innocent iraqi's died? the said YES. >> IT IS THAT KIND OF MENTALITY THAT IS IGNORANT -- AND WE WONDER WHY ARE CITIES ARE SO FUCKED UP WITH VIOLENCE.
-->why is every concervative so concerned with the French....they are doing the SAME SHIT WE DO...u dont think we take money 2 look the other way??? if not you are nieve....do some research and see that the U.S. HAS SPONSERED TERRORISM IN MANY COUNTRIES. The U.S. takes money 2 look the other way....they did it in many african nations, in south america, south east asia, the middle east....u think that the U.S. is a knight in shining armor but we have created more turmoil than most other countries combined.
->>HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE WAR IS RITE? WHEN IN EVERY WAR INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE!
FUCK IT I GOT FINALS 2 DEAL WITH
--->The U.S. needs 2 get off its high horse and face all the bullshit they been putting out in the world.
-the fact is the U.S. has also sponserd killing innocent people in many areas in the world as long as some one in the U.S. gets the money....and that aint no lie.
->how many of them countries behind the war were promised money? Turkey was one of the few who had balls enuff 2 say no...and they even gave in some. so the ONLY reason many contries were with us was cuz of $$$. The problem with the U.S. is that they just dont let other countries be....if u got oil--"fuck I want it", u got diamonds--"imma take that 2," yet the mass's here in the U.S. have no say and most are starving.
->>there has been no proof on chemical weapons...DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING U SEE ON TV. Also if they didnt fine WMD (a joke in its self) that mean they did destroy them and they were complying with the UN mandate. there are no links between bin ladin and saddam EXCEPT THAT THEY BOTH DID BUSINESS WITH THE BUSH'S. <<< so whats the new excuse for the war?
"I find it humerous that the people that stick up for Saddam and/or terrorist actions" << i have never heard people acctually stick up for Saddam....as a matter of fact most people believe he should not be in power. BUT there has 2 be a better way 2 deal with the situation....a number of other ways infact but the idiot that we have in office chose his wallet over reason.
-what rite do we have 2 go in 2 a soverign nation and kill 1 innocent person....think about it?
---it is rediculus(sp?) 2 think that a CNN poll asked, "would you support a war if 1,000 U.S. soldiers died? the majority said NO--But when asked "would you support the war if 1,000 innocent iraqi's died? the said YES. >> IT IS THAT KIND OF MENTALITY THAT IS IGNORANT -- AND WE WONDER WHY ARE CITIES ARE SO FUCKED UP WITH VIOLENCE.
-->why is every concervative so concerned with the French....they are doing the SAME SHIT WE DO...u dont think we take money 2 look the other way??? if not you are nieve....do some research and see that the U.S. HAS SPONSERED TERRORISM IN MANY COUNTRIES. The U.S. takes money 2 look the other way....they did it in many african nations, in south america, south east asia, the middle east....u think that the U.S. is a knight in shining armor but we have created more turmoil than most other countries combined.
->>HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE WAR IS RITE? WHEN IN EVERY WAR INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE!
FUCK IT I GOT FINALS 2 DEAL WITH
then gangs is wrong cops is wrong the streets is wrong. cause innocent people die every day in that shit.
you the type of person who wants everyone to hold flowers and sing and throw away all guns.
also these the same rappers talkin bout blastin and slangin. but war is wrong. come on now wake the fuck up
also it is about fame and record sales and contraversy. the songs free but there albums arnt.
you the type of person who wants everyone to hold flowers and sing and throw away all guns.
also these the same rappers talkin bout blastin and slangin. but war is wrong. come on now wake the fuck up
also it is about fame and record sales and contraversy. the songs free but there albums arnt.
talking 2 me?
What im saying is that there is a reason we have that mentality in this country-->theres a reason why it mostly affects minorities theres a reason why the armed forces target minorities...
->i realize what the streets is like: but when u look at it the violence comes from somewhere....THAT SHIT IS LEARNED.
->and WTF u mean about rappers....theres a big difference between folx TALKING about blastin and slangin and acctually killing innocent people.
-were the richest country in the world yet we cant give back 2 the world-->go 2 NE other "developed" nation in the world and you can see how "underdeveloped" we are as a culture and society. The U.S. done raised a bunch of spoiled kids that are greedy and selfish....its time 2 think of ur neighbor as a HUMAN.
What im saying is that there is a reason we have that mentality in this country-->theres a reason why it mostly affects minorities theres a reason why the armed forces target minorities...
->i realize what the streets is like: but when u look at it the violence comes from somewhere....THAT SHIT IS LEARNED.
->and WTF u mean about rappers....theres a big difference between folx TALKING about blastin and slangin and acctually killing innocent people.
-were the richest country in the world yet we cant give back 2 the world-->go 2 NE other "developed" nation in the world and you can see how "underdeveloped" we are as a culture and society. The U.S. done raised a bunch of spoiled kids that are greedy and selfish....its time 2 think of ur neighbor as a HUMAN.
I see some ppl bashing on French ppl well it ain't a thing...most french ppl disagreed with this war because UN officers were already in Iraq at the time and were looking for weapons of mass destruction. They were doing a good job. And MOST countries were taking the same position.
Why trying to invade them ? Well you might think it's to save ppl from the dictator bla bla but the truth is that the US really doesn't care about that. If they did they would have helped other minor African countries. take Nigeria. The president was taking about $4 million a day from the country funds for personal use while he was in power and no intervention. Take North Korea. It's the biggest dictatorship in the World. And they HAVE weapons of mass destruction.
No, the reason is simply because Iraq got the oil and also because the US wants to be more present in this area. And I know French government was against the war also because of the oil (our contracts with Iraq are probably gonna be cancelled). Bush administration made up false proofs that Iraq had chemical weapons. They didn't find anything except 4 containers in a school what a threat. It's a cold game all 4 the money now how can you be in favor of a man who waste your money on war instead of education, health care and so on.
Of course if you listen to FOX the whole day they gonna show you the good part of the situations.
Why trying to invade them ? Well you might think it's to save ppl from the dictator bla bla but the truth is that the US really doesn't care about that. If they did they would have helped other minor African countries. take Nigeria. The president was taking about $4 million a day from the country funds for personal use while he was in power and no intervention. Take North Korea. It's the biggest dictatorship in the World. And they HAVE weapons of mass destruction.
No, the reason is simply because Iraq got the oil and also because the US wants to be more present in this area. And I know French government was against the war also because of the oil (our contracts with Iraq are probably gonna be cancelled). Bush administration made up false proofs that Iraq had chemical weapons. They didn't find anything except 4 containers in a school what a threat. It's a cold game all 4 the money now how can you be in favor of a man who waste your money on war instead of education, health care and so on.
Of course if you listen to FOX the whole day they gonna show you the good part of the situations.
Let's get back to your country you fucking coward. Actually that's wrong of me to automatically assume that since you're from a country with cowards for leaders that you should be considered one of them..... but lets face it, if the shoe fits wear it. France has proven time and time again they they are a nation of wine sipping, arrogant snobs. What I think is great.... is that your economy is going down the tubes because Americans don't want to visit it anymore. I also think it's funny how anything "France thinks" doesn't matter to the rest of the world. For some reason France feels it is still important..... but it's good to see that people are starting to realize your country is a land of spineless cowards that won't stand up for shit. Your president is about to get into some major trouble for accepting $$$$$ to hide Saddam and his top officials when we started the bombings. I can't wait to see it unfold
I actually talked to a French foreign exchange student and he was telling me how Americans are "too proud" and that he's seen so many American Flags around town..... that it's "rediculous" He says that in France you would never see this..... because they are more down to earth and are a smarter, humble people.
My response to him was, "You don't see Flags up in France because your country has never done anything by itself to be proud of " and that my fellow frenchman is the truth
I actually talked to a French foreign exchange student and he was telling me how Americans are "too proud" and that he's seen so many American Flags around town..... that it's "rediculous" He says that in France you would never see this..... because they are more down to earth and are a smarter, humble people.
My response to him was, "You don't see Flags up in France because your country has never done anything by itself to be proud of " and that my fellow frenchman is the truth