DETLA 1010 OR DIGI 001 ???
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Keep the Delta1010. Protools and the digi001 are not the only high quality audio system. Digidesign just happended to grab a large marketshare years ago with protools. Since it was one of the best products at the time, it got known as the professional standard. But since then, the competition has definately caught up and propriety systems are on the way out in favor of more modular hardware/software combinations.
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It still is one of the best products out there, and still is an indusrty standard. PT set the standards which all are judged by. While now this program or that program may do this or that better, they all have the same basic functions. Never buy another program cause John Doe said it was good, research it, use it and make your desicison based on those points. USE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU PERIOD!!!!!!!!!
This is where PT does fall behind, its midi is not on par which other programs out there, but dont judge the two, cause remeber PT was set up to be a Multi Track Recorder, cubase logic Cakewalk etc ... where set up to be midi sequencers 1st, multi track recording second.
This is where PT does fall behind, its midi is not on par which other programs out there, but dont judge the two, cause remeber PT was set up to be a Multi Track Recorder, cubase logic Cakewalk etc ... where set up to be midi sequencers 1st, multi track recording second.
I always see comments like this and I would like to point out that the main reason Pro-Tools IS an industry standard is because it was released into a market with practically no competition. It didn't see any for a long time either so it had plenty of time to corner the market. It's not hard to become the standard when you're the only one! I don't mean that to sound like I'm taking away from Pro-Tools because high-end PT rigs are defiantely the shit. Pricey, but still the shit!
While we're at it, I hear this question asked a lot; If PC-based setups are just as good, if not better, and less expensive, why don't more studios invest in them instead? The answer is simple... Compatibility and previous investments in Pro-Tools oriented setups. Compatibility is a key factor in the success of any professional studio (recording, mastering or other) and people arn't just going to walk away from Pro-Tools based setups that they've poured tens of thousands of dollars into.
Is Pro-Tools the leading industry standard? Yes. Is it the best? Technically no but in the end the answer to that is all a matter of opinion.
Lastly, I agree with the cat that said 'dont buy something because so-and-so said it was tight'. Don't buy a Pro-Tools rig because you heard that Dr. Dre uses one. The money could be better spent so rather than focusing on what other people use to do their work, focus on what you need to do yours.
While we're at it, I hear this question asked a lot; If PC-based setups are just as good, if not better, and less expensive, why don't more studios invest in them instead? The answer is simple... Compatibility and previous investments in Pro-Tools oriented setups. Compatibility is a key factor in the success of any professional studio (recording, mastering or other) and people arn't just going to walk away from Pro-Tools based setups that they've poured tens of thousands of dollars into.
Is Pro-Tools the leading industry standard? Yes. Is it the best? Technically no but in the end the answer to that is all a matter of opinion.
Lastly, I agree with the cat that said 'dont buy something because so-and-so said it was tight'. Don't buy a Pro-Tools rig because you heard that Dr. Dre uses one. The money could be better spent so rather than focusing on what other people use to do their work, focus on what you need to do yours.
I always see this comment too. People seem to hold that against PT, its not Digidesigns fault that they were the 1st company to make it big with comp based multi tracking ( Radar was also one of the first but it is a stand alone unit.
It all depends on what you want out of the program. I like PT I use PT, but I've also used other programs that I liked as well, DP is one of them. I never really cared for Cubase or Logic, but thats me, my opinion. When I first started looking into comp based system's I was looking at Paris, but now that it is no longer being supported, PT was my next choice. Why, because I was loking for a program that was a Multi Track recorded 1st. Cats gotta remeber that Logic, Cubase, DP, Sonar ( Cakewalk ) where all set up as midi sequencer's 1st. its only now that they had to go in and rewrite there audio code, to make it up to par with PT. And where does PT lack???? MIDI....BIG TIME.. And now programs like Logic have tone of featuers that rival and in some areas surpass PT. For me I sequence on hardware, and while some midi sequencer I like they haven't convinced me to make the jump just yet. Well see in the future though.
It all depends on what you want out of the program. I like PT I use PT, but I've also used other programs that I liked as well, DP is one of them. I never really cared for Cubase or Logic, but thats me, my opinion. When I first started looking into comp based system's I was looking at Paris, but now that it is no longer being supported, PT was my next choice. Why, because I was loking for a program that was a Multi Track recorded 1st. Cats gotta remeber that Logic, Cubase, DP, Sonar ( Cakewalk ) where all set up as midi sequencer's 1st. its only now that they had to go in and rewrite there audio code, to make it up to par with PT. And where does PT lack???? MIDI....BIG TIME.. And now programs like Logic have tone of featuers that rival and in some areas surpass PT. For me I sequence on hardware, and while some midi sequencer I like they haven't convinced me to make the jump just yet. Well see in the future though.
I can't remember anyone ever holding that fact against Pro-Tools. It's more a matter of giving cats an understanding of why things are as they are. PT does what it was designed to do, plain & simple. You can't take away from that.
It's a big MISTAKE to suggest that programs like Logic and Cubase are great for MIDI but weaker when it comes to their audio engine as compared to PT. You can say they started off primarily as sequencers but they have matured far beyond that. Doesn't matter where you started, it only matters where you're at. And how well you know the software you use.
I use all of these software packages and they are all in the same ball-park. They've been developed to the point where there is no clear & stand-out leader. For the most part, it boils down to user-interface preference.
It's a big MISTAKE to suggest that programs like Logic and Cubase are great for MIDI but weaker when it comes to their audio engine as compared to PT. You can say they started off primarily as sequencers but they have matured far beyond that. Doesn't matter where you started, it only matters where you're at. And how well you know the software you use.
I use all of these software packages and they are all in the same ball-park. They've been developed to the point where there is no clear & stand-out leader. For the most part, it boils down to user-interface preference.
I never stated that any program is weaker than another.
But dont you think that if you are getting into something no matter what it is, it is good to have a little history on it to help benifit you??? Thats why I stated that the other programs started out as midi sequencers 1st. Thats all. Now they all have gone out and recoded there programs and there audio paths are as strong, and like I stated before also surpass PT is some ways.
But dont you think that if you are getting into something no matter what it is, it is good to have a little history on it to help benifit you??? Thats why I stated that the other programs started out as midi sequencers 1st. Thats all. Now they all have gone out and recoded there programs and there audio paths are as strong, and like I stated before also surpass PT is some ways.
get them both if you can afford too. use cubase, cakewalk, sonar, fruity loops, soundforge, digital performer and etc. and use them from your midi tracks and then transfer all your tracks to pro tools and record your vocals like your using the pro tools setup as an
2- track recorder. you might be taking advantage of both weak points at once. just me talking. you might be getting the best of both worlds.
2- track recorder. you might be taking advantage of both weak points at once. just me talking. you might be getting the best of both worlds.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU PREFER.... I BEEN AROUND, SO MOST PEOPLES STUDIOS I BEEN TO USED PRO TOOLS, SO THATS WHAT I GOT, ITS EASY TO USE, IT SOUNDS GREAT, AND I NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS EVER... ALSO ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT BEEN AROUND WANT PRO TOOLS, OR HAVE IT, AND IT MAKES IT EASY TO DO BUSSINESS WITH OTHERS... NOT TO MENTION PEOPLE COME TO MY STUDIO JUST CUZ I HAVE PRO TOOLS.... CUZ ANYONE CAN GET CUBASE OR WHATEVER AND A PC AND SAY THEY GOT A STUDIO, ITS TOO EASY NOW...TO BE HONEST IF I DIDNT HAVE MY OWN STUDIO, I WOULDNT PAY TO RECORD ANYWHERE THAT DONT HAVE PRO TOOLS... TO ME ALL THAT PC SHIT LOOKS CHEESY.... AND THE 001 HAS A GREAT SOUND CARD... NOT TO MENTION WHEN YOU GOT THE RIGHT PRE-AMP AND MIC, IT CAN MAKE ALL YA SHIT SOUND GREAT...
BUT I HAVE HEARD SOME DECENT SHIT FROM PC USERS OF CUBASE AND ALL T HAT OTHER SHIT, BUT LIKE I SAID ITS PREFERANCE, BUT PEOPLE DO HAVE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING A PRO TOOLS SYSTEM...
WETHER ARTIST ARE DUMB OR NOT, ITS STUCK IN THERE HEAD THAT PRO TOOLS IS THE BEST, SO PT USERS WILL THRIVE...
BUT I HAVE HEARD SOME DECENT SHIT FROM PC USERS OF CUBASE AND ALL T HAT OTHER SHIT, BUT LIKE I SAID ITS PREFERANCE, BUT PEOPLE DO HAVE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING A PRO TOOLS SYSTEM...
WETHER ARTIST ARE DUMB OR NOT, ITS STUCK IN THERE HEAD THAT PRO TOOLS IS THE BEST, SO PT USERS WILL THRIVE...
