Denver Vs Seattle

Gringo Starr · Dec 12, 2006

xpanther206 said:

Again, you ASSUME i didnt know. I dont see why you think i didnt or dont.

Did the Hawks win the division?A simple yes or no will suffice.

Now, for the 5th time, you asked me a question to which i answered, yet you persisted to be an annoying little shit like you ALWAYS are, and TRY to antagonize me. Now, if you cant comprehend that, than you can fuck off. Ive had enough of your persistent retardation.

I know how the playoffs work, and i also know the season is NOT over, do you?

Unless you have something constructive to talk about, i will NOT respond to you again.

xpanther206 · Dec 12, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

Alright, honest I'm not trying to be a dick, but you're still missing a valuable piece of information. You overlook details, I point them out that's the way our conversations generally go.

You are correct, no the Seahawks have not clinched the NFC West. But the only situation that allows them to lose the NFC West puts them out of the playoffs entirely. The Seahawks have been eliminated as a potential Wild Card team at this point. If you don't understand, go to the NFC Standings page, look at the contenders schedules, set up a little rectangular matrix, bang out the probabilities and you will see.

So the Seahawks will either open the playoffs at home or not be in the playoffs at all, making that "if we go on the road first" comment erroneous. That's why I jumped on you, b/c you proposed a hypothetical that is mathematically impossible at this point.

Gringo Starr · Dec 12, 2006

xpanther206 said:

As are you

No, it doesnt. Seattle can still be a Wildcard team.

Again, you are WRONG.

Dallas is 8-5.IF they go 8-8 and NYG or Philly go 8-8, NYG or Phillt will win the division and giving Seattle a shot to get into the playoffs as a whildcard team.

Not to mention, these teams ALL have a shot of going 8-8 and becoming Wildcard contenders.

Philly
Minnesota
Green Bay
Atlanta
Carolina

What if all these teams go 8-8? Because the NFC West is so weak, it gives us a chance to get into the Wildcard.

If you can mathematically prove me wrong, ill say youre right and we can move on. But until then, fuck off.

Fuck you very much.

xpanther206 · Dec 12, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

1) I am on my knees begging you to please cite an example where my facts were wrong (not a prediction or a subjective opinion, but a fact). I only jump people when their facts are wrong, not their opinions b/c there's no such thing as an incorrect opinion.

2) * IF Dallas Goes 8-8 THEN Philadelphia & Atlanta would each finish ahead of the Seahawks in the Wild Card Standings {Philadelphia b/c of a superior NFC Record (7-5 at worst), Atlanta b/c of either a superior NFC Record (8-4, 7-5 or 6-6) or in the event of that 6-6 scenerio, a superior Common Games Record (Atlanta 3-2, Seattle 2-3)}

3) All of those teams you listed would win an 8-8 Wild Card Tie-Breaker with the Hawks except Green Bay:
Philly (superior NFC Record)
Minnesota (Head to Head)
Atlanta (Superior NFC Record)
Carolina (Superior Common Games)

If Green Bay does emerges from that Group at 8-8, then Dallas and Philly/Atlanta would edge them based on NFC Record.

4) Hawks are mathematically eliminated from a wild card spot homie.

You can't just throw out records you have to look at the respective teams schedules b/c so many of them play each other, and realize that for Team X to go 8-8 would affect Team Y in this manner. A rectangular matrix is the only way to do this, b/c with three weeks left it is too complicated to just eyeball the schedule.

Gringo Starr · Dec 12, 2006

xpanther206 said:

ERRRRRRRRRRRRR....wrong. And what if half those teams DONT go 8-8?What if Dallas only goes 8-8 and Phillys win the East and the Giants falter to the way side?What if its the opposite?What if NYG and Philly goth lose the rest of their games and Dallas wins?

Seattle aint out of it, trust me. There are a SHITLOAD of scenarios.You picked the one that was mentioned.

Heres how it would be if the season ended now:

FROM ESPN.COM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2668613

NFC wild-card matchups
New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys
Philadelphia Eagles at Seattle Seahawks

Ill check this every week until until/if we clinch.

xpanther206 · Dec 12, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

Man I'm really trying to be nice, trying to keep it civil but you just never take any time to do any homework at all, that's part of the reason I'm so hard on you. You keep saying I'm wrong yet you're the one who's got nothing each time as the scenerios you pose are either 1) impossible due to scheduling or 2) would still fail to put the Seahawks in as a Wild Card team.

1) Atlanta OR Philadelphia is guaranteed to go atleast 8-8 b/c they are each 7-6 and they play each other. Dallas is also guaranteed to go no worse than 8-8, and if they do go 8-8, Atlanta is also guaranteed to go 8-8 b/c Dallas and Atlanta play). Two of those three teams (ATL, PHI & Dallas) will be fighting for two wild card spots, all three have the tiebreaker over the Hawks.

2) With Philly winning the East at 9-7 and Dallas finishing 8-8, by default the Falcons also go atleast 8-8 b/c they play Dallas. That's two teams (DAL & ATL) with the tiebreaker over the Hawks.

3) Impossible, they NYG & Philly play each other Dec. 17.

4) Correct, there are a shitload of scenerios but not a single one of them involves the Seahawks as a wild card team.

xpanther206 · Dec 12, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

I hope you don't think that right ^^^ there means the Seahawks are a Wild Card team. You probably know this (God I hope so, please please please know this), but just b/c you are playing in "NFC Wild Card Weekend" doesn't mean you are a Wild Card team. I'm not going to patronize you and assume you know this.

Gringo Starr · Dec 12, 2006

xpanther206 said:

Yes, they do. Youre the only one thats saying they are not. Go over to the Seahawks board on ESPN and see what im saying.

Gringo Starr · Dec 12, 2006

xpanther206 said:

I do know this. I got excited and then realized Seattle is hosting the game therefore would be the winner of the Division.

xpanther206 · Dec 12, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

If it's there, please link me. I just gave it a quick look and didn't see anything.

I just want some evidence, that's what I'm trying to provide you, that's what I wish you would provide me. Rather than telling me I'm wrong, show me. Give me a scenerio which would put the Seahawks in as a Wild Card seed b/c so far you've failed to do so.

And it is of course a moot point b/c everybody knows the Hawks are winning the Division.

Dugless206 · Dec 13, 2006

goddamn boys, the hawks is gonna fuck the niners up on thursday so it aint no thing!!! ima go fuck with softy and the groz at the pheonix for pre game for a change haha im goin wit pops for his first game at the qwest. but its good to see you guys arguing over these "nothing comes easy for us" hawks

xpanther206 · Dec 13, 2006

StressedOutEnt. said:

That sounds like a good time, I love The Soft One, he's hilarious, listened to him at work everyday this summer.

I'm as psyched up for this team as any other Seahawk team, we're going to have a home game in the Playoffs, that hasn't happened very often in the 30 years the team's been around. Fuck the ups and downs this year, we can't become spoiled after one year and forget where we're coming from. I can't wait for the Playoffs.

xpanther206 · Dec 13, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

The reason I'm the only one saying that is b/c nobody's talking about the Hawks as a Wild Card b/c they are 95% sure of winning the Division.

xpanther206 · Dec 13, 2006

Gringo Starr said:

Actually, the opposite is true.

The NFC West being so weak is actually the reason why they canNOT get a Wild Card birth. To not win the division, they'd have to lose out. They'd have to end up at 8-8 where they would lose all those tiebreakers I mentioned earlier. If they were in any other division, they could be in any of the other 3 NFC Divisions and still have a shot at a Wild Card by going 9-7. But in the NFC West, 9-7 gives them the Division.

The correct statement is "because the NFC is so weak" not "NFC West"

savage · Dec 14, 2006

hopefully the seahawks will win

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