Denver Vs Seattle
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you can run your mouth all day long but facts are facts. he had 2 touchdown passes in his first game. www.nfl.com
It was really just a bad bad game. Seattle really didn't deserve to win that game at all. They had another horrible first half, and only came out on top cause Cutler and the Broncos are just that bad. I'm not worried though, Seahawks are just getting their stars back, and we're still missing a couple. I think we'll be ready by the playoffs.
I was at the game, sportin a deion branch patriots jersey getting harrassed as fuck. I was there with only one other dude, both of us are die hard Hawks fans, and we were in an all Bronco fan section. It was so satisfying getting the W and just looking back at all them bitches talken shit the whole game.
I was at the game, sportin a deion branch patriots jersey getting harrassed as fuck. I was there with only one other dude, both of us are die hard Hawks fans, and we were in an all Bronco fan section. It was so satisfying getting the W and just looking back at all them bitches talken shit the whole game.
Very very very flawed way of thinking, overlooking some really important things. You have a tendency to neglect the details and be somewhat irrationally "doom & gloom."
Kick 1: 42 yarder while tied
Kick 2: 54 yarder while losing
Kick 3: 38 yarder while losing
Kick 4: 50 yarder while tied
Kick 1 & 3: Modest distances, you look at the other 31 kickers, 25 of them would have made both kicks. Nothing special.
Kick 4: The game was tied, so if he missed, it wasn't an immediate loss, they still would've had overtime, where I say last night it's a 50-50 shot.
Kick 2: Truly special, not reasonable to expect a kicker to hit from 54 yards while losing the game.
He's directly responsible for only 1 of those 4 wins.
I would argue that his performance last week (where he did not hit a game winning FG) was his 2nd most important game because hitting 4 middle-long field goals in a snow storm to keep a team that was getting out played close was HUGE.
I ain't opposed to doom & gloom, certainly the team is not playing like last year's club. I am opposed to irrational doom & gloom.
Kick 1: 42 yarder while tied
Kick 2: 54 yarder while losing
Kick 3: 38 yarder while losing
Kick 4: 50 yarder while tied
Kick 1 & 3: Modest distances, you look at the other 31 kickers, 25 of them would have made both kicks. Nothing special.
Kick 4: The game was tied, so if he missed, it wasn't an immediate loss, they still would've had overtime, where I say last night it's a 50-50 shot.
Kick 2: Truly special, not reasonable to expect a kicker to hit from 54 yards while losing the game.
He's directly responsible for only 1 of those 4 wins.
I would argue that his performance last week (where he did not hit a game winning FG) was his 2nd most important game because hitting 4 middle-long field goals in a snow storm to keep a team that was getting out played close was HUGE.
I ain't opposed to doom & gloom, certainly the team is not playing like last year's club. I am opposed to irrational doom & gloom.
You're right on every point regarding everything except QB. Would you rather have Cutler begin his learning curve this year when we're not strong enough to win a SB anyway or next year when we are starting fresh?
Ya gotta put him in this year to get the "rookie" out of him so he can be primed for next year. It ain't like Plummer is going to lead us anywhere this year. The team is too shitty and injured to do anything this year. There ain't know way we could beat Indy/Balt/NE or SD in the playoffs with our current team Jake or no Jake.
Jake coulda come out and thrown 3 tds or 3ints. Ya never know. The way he has played this year, i would say he would have been comparable to Cutler's numbers anyway. You're totally underrating seattle by saying we would have beat them easily with Jake in there.
At least under Jay we're averaging 3 more points a game than with Jake!
Josh Brown has to be put in the position to win those games. It's not like seattle magically gets the ball and Brown kicks it. The Offense has to drive down the field effectively in the final minutes or seconds. Not too mention the Defense usually is responsible for getting the ball back, either by turnover or forcing a punt.
It's a team effort, not one single man winning the game.
It's a team effort, not one single man winning the game.
big D said:
You're right on every point regarding everything except QB. Would you rather have Cutler begin his learning curve this year when we're not strong enough to win a SB anyway or next year when we are starting fresh?
Ya gotta put him in this year to get the "rookie" out of him so he can be primed for next year. It ain't like Plummer is going to lead us anywhere this year. The team is too shitty and injured to do anything this year. There ain't know way we could beat Indy/Balt/NE or SD in the playoffs with our current team Jake or no Jake.
Jake coulda come out and thrown 3 tds or 3ints. Ya never know. The way he has played this year, i would say he would have been comparable to Cutler's numbers anyway. You're totally underrating seattle by saying we would have beat them easily with Jake in there.
At least under Jay we're averaging 3 more points a game than with Jake!
Ya gotta put him in this year to get the "rookie" out of him so he can be primed for next year. It ain't like Plummer is going to lead us anywhere this year. The team is too shitty and injured to do anything this year. There ain't know way we could beat Indy/Balt/NE or SD in the playoffs with our current team Jake or no Jake.
Jake coulda come out and thrown 3 tds or 3ints. Ya never know. The way he has played this year, i would say he would have been comparable to Cutler's numbers anyway. You're totally underrating seattle by saying we would have beat them easily with Jake in there.
At least under Jay we're averaging 3 more points a game than with Jake!
We hadn't already killed Pats in thier own home.........with jake
We hadn't already beat Ravens........with Jake
We hadn't had Chargers beat, defense couldn't stop anyone, play calling got conservetive...........with Jake
We hadn't lost by only 3 to this tough Indy team losing to lower teams.....with Jake
Throwing in Cutler you give up all hope of the season, and Sunday proved way more is wrong than the QB position.
I thought Cutler was ready, and shanny himself said the whole playbook is now open....really? then why was it still run run pass punt?
Once you get into the playoffs anything can happen, but now that chance of playoffs is all but gone.
3 out of 4 of those games were won by FG's over 50 yards. The point is, without that great leg, we wouldnt stand a chance.
Seattle's offense has put us in positions to LOSE those games up until the defining moment of Brown kicking the ball through the up-rights.
Seattle should be positioning themselves to be up by 2 TD's instead of leaning on their kicker week in and week out to come from behind. This is what makes them an average team with a special kicker.
Seattle's offense has put us in positions to LOSE those games up until the defining moment of Brown kicking the ball through the up-rights.
Seattle should be positioning themselves to be up by 2 TD's instead of leaning on their kicker week in and week out to come from behind. This is what makes them an average team with a special kicker.
exactly! There's more wrong than just the QB. The playcalling is the most of it. Enough wrong to realize the Broncos are going nowhere. So invest some experience in the 11th pick in the draft, instead of a 10-year vet. We've seen so many close games this year lost. If Jake had pulled out a win in any of those he'd still be in there. Has Jake ever had a 4th qtr comeback in a Denver uniform?
I'm think I'm just gonna butt in on this little debate.
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the kicker not part of the team? What's the difference if we win by 3 or 30? That's like saying the colts aint shit, they just have a great QB. It doesn't matter who wins the game for them or how it's done, the bottom fucking line is that we win. An average team wouldn't be 8-4 right now, it's ridiculous to sit here and argue that we're an average team with a special kicker. That special kicker is part of the team making them a better than average team. That's not my opinion that's just a fact. He contributes to our overall team just like a QB or a WR does.
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the kicker not part of the team? What's the difference if we win by 3 or 30? That's like saying the colts aint shit, they just have a great QB. It doesn't matter who wins the game for them or how it's done, the bottom fucking line is that we win. An average team wouldn't be 8-4 right now, it's ridiculous to sit here and argue that we're an average team with a special kicker. That special kicker is part of the team making them a better than average team. That's not my opinion that's just a fact. He contributes to our overall team just like a QB or a WR does.