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Tony

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thascary 1 your defense didn't hold up... But Jake is Jake. All Denver needed was a field goal and Jake couldn't get them in field goal position. Can't put all the blame on Jake, but like I said before Jake can't win games. He choked big time. He threw an INT when he needed to get his team in field goal position.

Brooks threw one too yesterday but he needed a touchdown and got desperate looking for Randy Moss. Bad decision by Brooks even Brooks admitted it. But Randy Moss was just walking in the back of the end zone instead of coming back and fighting for the ball to help his QB out.
 
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Tony said:
thascary 1 your defense didn't hold up... But Jake is Jake. All Denver needed was a field goal and Jake couldn't get them in field goal position. Can't put all the blame on Jake, but like I said before Jake can't win games. He choked big time. He threw an INT when he needed to get his team in field goal position.

Brooks threw one too yesterday but he needed a touchdown and got desperate looking for Randy Moss. Bad decision by Brooks even Brooks admitted it. But Randy Moss was just walking in the back of the end zone instead of coming back and fighting for the ball to help his QB out.
but see did you read the play that was called? Jake HAD to throw it. If he held it and ran he would have been stopped and everyone would be saying oh now he's scared to throw picks. But he had to throw to 1 of 2 wr's both of whom were tripled covered because of the shitty play called. If they would have had a TE running an out or a back running into the flat there would have been achance, but that was not the play
 
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PoLLo LoC831 said:
i don't know if Dago is going to the super bowl new england and indianapolis are playing hard in the AFC
New England is not going I can tell you that right now.

Colts and Chargers are in the drivers seat, and I think the chargers could easily beat them.
 
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thascary1 said:
but see did you read the play that was called? Jake HAD to throw it. If he held it and ran he would have been stopped and everyone would be saying oh now he's scared to throw picks. But he had to throw to 1 of 2 wr's both of whom were tripled covered because of the shitty play called. If they would have had a TE running an out or a back running into the flat there would have been achance, but that was not the play
i know what you are saying, but when youre the q.b youre expected to make plays,TOMLINSON HAS TWO MORE TOUCHDOWNS THAN THE WHOLE DENVER OFFENSE shanny is not going to be the fall guy for this, its gonna be plummer
 

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thascary1 said:
but see did you read the play that was called? Jake HAD to throw it. If he held it and ran he would have been stopped and everyone would be saying oh now he's scared to throw picks. But he had to throw to 1 of 2 wr's both of whom were tripled covered because of the shitty play called. If they would have had a TE running an out or a back running into the flat there would have been achance, but that was not the play
So you're saying it was a bad play call because Plummer didn't have many options?

I was just reading on what went on with Brooks and Randy. It was Randy's fault. He was supposed to come back in between the defenders that were playing zone and he didn't do it. Moss is a bitch!
 
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E.S.LoCC said:
Tha Bolts got lucky...Denver had tha win and then got caught slippin...its all good...we get our revenge on 12/10/06 when tha 303 visits tha 619
LUCKY?SORRY HOMIE LUCK HAD 0 TO DO WITH IT, WE CAME IN THERE AND GOT THE WIN,IT WAS A GOOD GAME BUT BLAMING IT ON BAD LUCK FOR THE BRONOCS IS PLAIN STUPIDITY.

WHEN WE HAVE THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE AND YOU GUYS HAVE JAKE PLUMBER, SORRY MAN LUCK AINT INVOLVED
 
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ESCOBAR 92113 said:
i know what you are saying, but when youre the q.b youre expected to make plays,TOMLINSON HAS TWO MORE TOUCHDOWNS THAN THE WHOLE DENVER OFFENSE shanny is not going to be the fall guy for this, its gonna be plummer

I know Plummer will be the fall guy because Shanny is considered god here....but shanny made the play calls and that is what lost the game.
 
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Tony said:
So you're saying it was a bad play call because Plummer didn't have many options?

I was just reading on what went on with Brooks and Randy. It was Randy's fault. He was supposed to come back in between the defenders that were playing zone and he didn't do it. Moss is a bitch!

exactly!

Only 2 players on offense were even past the line of scrimmage! it was 4th & 4. Only 2 players to get the first when Chargers dropped 7 back in pass coverage! do the math and thats both wr's tripled covered and anextra man playing deep or to either side... that is inexcusible.

I saw the moss play and I am still undecided on that 1. Yes Moss should have fought for it...BUT when you look at the play, Moss is in the very back and the ball was caught almost in the middle, that's a 5 yard diff, kinda hard to comeback and make a play that fast.
 

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^Moss was supposed to be there before Brooks threw it. Brooks looked off the coverage and read zone, after reading zone, Moss was supposed to step up in between the two defenders who were playing zone. Yeah it looks like a bad decision by Brooks, but after reading about what happened you can understand. If Moss runs the correct route and comes back and sits in the zone it would have been a TD. Brooks was anticipating Moss coming back.

Moss didn't want to get hit. In a situation like that the receiver should know he has to come back and give his qb an option. Moss left his qb out to dry.

I am not trying to make excuses either. If Brooks screwed up I would admit it. But Moss blew it by walking in the back of the end zone instead of coming back before Brooks threw it.
 
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Tony said:
^Moss was supposed to be there before Brooks threw it. Brooks looked off the coverage and read zone, after reading zone, Moss was supposed to step up in between the two defenders who were playing zone. Yeah it looks like a bad decision by Brooks, but after reading about what happened you can understand. If Moss runs the correct route and comes back and sits in the zone it would have been a TD. Brooks was anticipating Moss coming back.

Moss didn't want to get hit. In a situation like that the receiver should know he has to come back and give his qb an option. Moss left his qb out to dry.

I am not trying to make excuses either. If Brooks screwed up I would admit it. But Moss blew it by walking in the back of the end zone instead of coming back before Brooks threw it.

see I haven't read or heard anything on it so that was kind of why I said I am still undecided. It did seem odd to me that Moss was just walking back there when Brooks knew he was going to him.
 

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thascary1 said:
exactly!

Only 2 players on offense were even past the line of scrimmage! it was 4th & 4. Only 2 players to get the first when Chargers dropped 7 back in pass coverage! do the math and thats both wr's tripled covered and anextra man playing deep or to either side... that is inexcusible.
Mike used to spread teams out with 5 wide receiver sets. His play calling has gotten conservative. If he only gave Jake two options then that's not good on Mike's part. He usually calls better plays than that.
 
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Tony said:
Mike used to spread teams out with 5 wide receiver sets. His play calling has gotten conservative. If he only gave Jake two options then that's not good on Mike's part. He usually calls better plays than that.

the whole game was like that. Jake needs playaction and bootlegs, and he called NONE!

I could understand not calling any if we couldn't run the ball, but we were running the ball just fine.
 

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thascary1 said:
see I haven't read or heard anything on it so that was kind of why I said I am still undecided. It did seem odd to me that Moss was just walking back there when Brooks knew he was going to him.
Look at the headline... This is cut and pasted from sacbee.com I won't post the whole articles because it's a long read. But check this out.

"Moss chooses different path"
'Miscommunication' helps stall the Raiders' comeback hopes.

Aaron Brooks had to be aggressive, but Randy Moss wasn't.

Brooks returned and completed passes to Randal Williams and Ronald Curry to put the Raiders at the Chiefs' 8-yard line.

With 32 seconds left and no timeouts, Brooks took the shotgun snap and looked for Moss.

Moss had the option to run along the back of the end zone or step in front of Chiefs defenders, absorb a big hit and possibly catch the game-winner.

Moss chose the former, and Page gave the Raiders another late-game defeat, the norm in this rivalry since 2003.

"I was anticipating him to come in front of the safety, and he went behind the safety," Brooks said. "Maybe I reacted too fast to the situation."

Brooks said Moss wasn't wrong in his decision, but he had hoped Moss would recognize zone coverage and look for a hole in front of the defenders.

But with time running out, Brooks knew he couldn't hold the ball and take a sack.

"I had to make a decision," Brooks said. "I made that decision, that decision wasn't the right one, and it cost us."

Brooks didn't blame his two months out of the lineup for what he called "miscommunication" with Moss.

It is a trust factor," Brooks said. "But it's not necessarily predicated on working with Randy, working with other guys, making sure the decision I made was right. And it ended up being wrong."
 
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Plummer is GARBAGE. I've been saying it since week 1.

I have no doubts we're going to win the division and at least get to the AFC Championship. Denver could easily lose again this thursday and after we smash on the Raiders again we'll have a comfortable 2-game lead. And ain't no way Denver's comin' down to Dago and beating us with a healthy Castillo and reinstated Merriman. Sorry Broncos fans.
 
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Sicc_Wit_It said:
Plummer is GARBAGE. I've been saying it since week 1.

I have no doubts we're going to win the division and at least get to the AFC Championship. Denver could easily lose again this thursday and after we smash on the Raiders again we'll have a comfortable 2-game lead. And ain't no way Denver's comin' down to Dago and beating us with a healthy Castillo and reinstated Merriman. Sorry Broncos fans.
even if chargers win the division or super bowl it will tainted because of merriman steriod use. we will see if same merriman off the roids
 
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herm96 said:
even if chargers win the division or super bowl it will tainted because of merriman steriod use. we will see if same merriman off the roids
Shut your hatin ass up. Even if Merriman was takin steriods on the regular, What the fuck does that have to do with the offense lightin up the scoreboard like a pinball machine?