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nonstop_ga said:
Portland had 27 murders in 2004 "known to police" lol as quoted by the ppd website...
Yes I knew somebody was going to come from that angle.

So 1) you think that there were (with a very very liberal estimate) about 100 murders that went unreported from Portland PD, which would still bring the total to only about 1/3 of some of the midwestern, southern and eastern cities? and 2) you think that people in Detroit aren't saying the same thing?
 
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And showing that portland and seattle were very close last year... Portlands 27 to seattles 24...

I don't judge cities by crimerate... Cause I've seen death poverty drugs guns robberies and rape around me my whole life... In lil old innocent portland... So the numbers don't mean shit to ME because I see it... I probably know damne near everyone in those small numbers, weather its murder shootings armed robbery and what not... But I'd be damned to be proud of that...

Weather its 27 or 270... It still hurts when it hapens to u
 
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nonstop_ga said:
Weather its 27 or 270... It still hurts when it hapens to u
Yes it certainly does, sorry to hear that. Numbers don't mean they don't happen, they just mean there are a lot more of you running around in other cities than PO.
 
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mayn all those numbers, rates and all that other tampered info......doesn't really mean a mo'fucking thing........like non stop said earlier........if you grew up around shit like that all ya life, I mean I could give a fuck bout a crime rate.......I mean Im down in ATL right now, just young nigga from the Cd tryna make it happen for my corner of the earth and networkin wit all kind of cats from all over the planet, understand me,..........and I can attest and testify that I met not one NY nigga, Detroit nigga, ATL nigga, N.O nigga, Miami nigga, Texas nigga, Cali nigga.....is any harder or smarter..........its not where ya from its how you come and if ya take a look at my sig........you'll slightly be able to understand how I come because its real.......and no I don't gang bang I attain game, and implement it to release these slave chains, How bout it ha................100
 
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btw the latest rankings came out recently with all the data from 2004

Seattle has 217th highest Murder rate out of 365 cities
Portland has 179th

So all in all, the percentage of our populations up here in the NW that have to deal with the horrible stuff that a few people on here like Young E.A.S.T. have posted on is TINY compared to everywhere else which I do think plays a role in the viability of gangster rap music coming out of the area.

But again I don't care anymore if these talented gangster rap acts out here blow or not b/c I have their CDs I'm just thankful for that and am not going to waste my time entertaining the possibility of any of them blowing.
 

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It's like I've said a million times Panther,your stats mean shit.Holly Park and Magnolia would be tied together in your research...are they alike?Queen Anne and the CD?
It ain't ain't where your from,it's right where your at.I mean I grew up in West Seattle,but where I lived was safe.A half mile away was bananas.
 
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xpanther206 said:
btw the latest rankings came out recently with all the data from 2004

Seattle has 217th highest Murder rate out of 365 cities
Portland has 179th

So all in all, the percentage of our populations up here in the NW that have to deal with the horrible stuff that a few people on here like Young E.A.S.T. have posted on is TINY compared to everywhere else which I do think plays a role in the viability of gangster rap music coming out of the area.

But again I don't care anymore if these talented gangster rap acts out here blow or not b/c I have their CDs I'm just thankful for that and am not going to waste my time entertaining the possibility of any of them blowing.
where you from patna........
 
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BAMMER said:
It's like I've said a million times Panther,your stats mean shit.Holly Park and Magnolia would be tied together in your research...are they alike?Queen Anne and the CD?
It ain't ain't where your from,it's right where your at.I mean I grew up in West Seattle,but where I lived was safe.A half mile away was bananas.

EXACTLY....THE 35TH AVE DIVIDE...
 
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BAMMER said:
It's like I've said a million times Panther,your stats mean shit.Holly Park and Magnolia would be tied together in your research...are they alike?Queen Anne and the CD?
It ain't ain't where your from,it's right where your at.I mean I grew up in West Seattle,but where I lived was safe.A half mile away was bananas.
And like I've said a million times....

1) Your point is nowhere near beyond me, there is even a term for it. It's called the ecological fallacy (projecting the characteristics of a larger unit upon a smaller unit within that larger unit), and it's a serious data quality issue in urban geography. However, it does not mean that conclusions cannot be drawn. Of course Holly Park and Magnolia are worlds apart, but what the numbers do mean is that the Holly Park's of the world make up say 10% of Seattle while the Magnolia's make up say 20%, with the other 60% of the town somewhere in between. The numbers show that in places like St. Louis or Richmond VA, the Holly Park's make up a hell of a lot bigger chunk of the city than they do in the S-E-A. Which does NOT mean the worst of those places is worse than the worst of here, or that the people from there are any more 'real' than the people who are from there here. What it DOES mean is that a) Seattle has fewer people from these places b/c they are less of a presence in the city and b) the Holly Park's of the world are going to play a much much smaller role in developing the city's national reputation than they are in other cities, which certainly does have an effect on the look major's will give it.

2) On a personal level I go everywhere I need to go in town without thinking about anything. I won't do the same in my new city nor will I do that in other places. Take that for what it's worth.

So with A and B being said does either one bode well for a gangster rapper making it out here? HELL NO.

Before people start goin off on how the rich whiteboy who graduated from Seattle Prep xpanther206 is on some gay shit or something and doesn't know the hood or hasn't lived through shit, just look at who the guys making a living off this rap in the NW are. It's guys like Grayskul, Boom Bap, Swollen Members etc. NOT gangster rap music, and it's not about the music because the music from those guys SUCKS compared to the gangster music from out here. It is not a coincidence who the hip-hop crews with the money are in this area, just like it's not a coincidence its the gangster guys blowing in other cities.

So I don't know the message I'm trying to deliver other than on both a local consumer and national consumer scale, the DEMOGRAPHICS FOR GANGSTER RAP MUSIC COMING OUT OF THE 206 ARE NOT GOOD BECAUSE IT IS LESS LIKELY TO BE MADE IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE AND ONCE IT IS MADE (guys like SLR, Tha Loc, 151, RHS etc the list goes on), IT IS LESS LIKELY TO BE ACCEPTED BY PEOPLE BOTH HERE AND NATIONALLY LARGELY AS A RESULT OF THE SIMPLE DEMOGRAPHICS .

Bottom Line EVERYBODY nationally and the majority of the population locally does not think that Seattle is 'tough' 'thoro' 'gangsta' whatever you want to call it. And there's a good reason they think that when thinking comparatively. If Seattle wants to be gangster, it should compare itself to Vancouver BC. None of this is a good formula for the exporting of gangster rap music, period.
 
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Anybody questioning my perspective and authority to speak on this despite the fact I have never lived in the ghetto my whole life, GO HERE , I describe something I've been working on for awhile.