Culpepper to Phins

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thascary1 said:
Niether Denver game did he get doubled more than twice. I watched a few other games against KC & SD as well and never saw triple team.....but if Raider fan wants to pull that card that's fine.
heh if you say he hardly got doubled or tripled than that goes to show you how bad of a QB he had and yet still managed to get his yds with minimum passes thrown to him and playin injured throughout the season
 
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RAS 925 said:
heh if you say he hardly got doubled or tripled than that goes to show you how bad of a QB he had and yet still managed to get his yds with minimum passes thrown to him and playin injured throughout the season

It was bad QB yes but I would blame Turner more if I were you guys.

He would run in stupid situations and pretty much force the team to throw when the defenese knew it....We'll see if that changes with Shell.
 
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thascary1 said:
Frerotte is worse than Collins
May be true, but Frerotte knows to look for his best receiver. Collins doesn't. If Frerotte had Moss, his numbers (Moss') would have jumped significantly because he would have had more balls thrown his way. Collins had Jerry Porter (who is as good as Chambers, BTW) to throw to.

thascary1 said:
and Moss didn't get tripled team last year at all..what are you smoking.
Oh? I watched every game. And you're gonna try to tell me Randy Moss wasn't triple teamed? The broadcasters pointed it out on several occasions! Give me a break. LMAO!!!!

thascary1 said:
Dude I loved Moss when he came into the league, but both he and Pep proved that they aren't as good without eachother.
No, Culpepper proved he's not as good without Moss.

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Now Pep has that kind of wr again
BULLSHIT.

Now, I hate the Raiders, but there's no denying Moss' ability. There's no way in hell Chris Chambers is as good as Moss, or even close to his level. Don't get me wrong, I think Chambers is a good WR, but Moss and a grip of others are just on another level.
 
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thascary1 said:
It was bad QB yes but I would blame Turner more if I were you guys.

He would run in stupid situations and pretty much force the team to throw when the defenese knew it....We'll see if that changes with Shell.
yep good thing we got both Turner and Collins outta here...... Now hopefully Shell lets Walter or whoever our starting QB maybe to lead this team and make smart decisions
 
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
May be true, but Frerotte knows to look for his best receiver. Collins doesn't. If Frerotte had Moss, his numbers (Moss') would have jumped significantly because he would have had more balls thrown his way. Collins had Jerry Porter (who is as good as Chambers, BTW) to throw to.



Oh? I watched every game. And you're gonna try to tell me Randy Moss wasn't triple teamed? The broadcasters pointed it out on several occasions! Give me a break. LMAO!!!!



No, Culpepper proved he's not as good without Moss.


BULLSHIT.

Now, I hate the Raiders, but there's no denying Moss' ability. There's no way in hell Chris Chambers is as good as Moss, or even close to his level. Don't get me wrong, I think Chambers is a good WR, but Moss and a grip of others are just on another level.



I watched lots of Raiders games and I never seen them "point out" a triple coverage. maybe it was the games I didn't watch, but the ones I did...never.


Porter is better than Chambers....I could agree with that...Porter is awesome speed and size.


Only time will tell what Pep will do...but remember this thread when Chambers has a second straight pro bowl year with 1400 yards and 14+ td's
 
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RAS 925 said:
yep good thing we got both Turner and Collins outta here...... Now hopefully Shell lets Walter or whoever our starting QB maybe to lead this team and make smart decisions
If it's Walters be prepared for all out blitzes almost all game all year.

Lamont Jordan will be next to nothing if that's the case.
 
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BEING THE BIG PHIN' FAN OF THE BOARD IM HAPPY WITH GETTING DANTE....I KINDA WISHED WE HAD TRADED UP THOUGH AND DRAFTED CUTLER......AS FOR CHAMBERS.....HE IS POSSIBLY THE BEST WR IN THE LEAGUE...NOT JUST BECAUSE IM A FAN BUT HIS NUMBERS DONT LIE.....AND HAVING MCMICHEAL WHO CAUGHT LOTS OF PASSES TOO NEGATES THE WHO ELSE WAS THERE TO THROW TO LAST YEAR...GUS AT QB IS A JOKE AND FOR HIM TO PUT UP THOSE NUMBERS HES A SPECIAL RECIEVER
 
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TRAGIC LOSSES said:
BEING THE BIG PHIN' FAN OF THE BOARD
^^That quote explains this quote:

TRAGIC LOSSES said:
AS FOR CHAMBERS.....HE IS POSSIBLY THE BEST WR IN THE LEAGUE...
TRAGIC LOSSES said:
NOT JUST BECAUSE IM A FAN
Riiiight....

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BUT HIS NUMBERS DONT LIE.....
He didn't put up numbers that were THAT great.

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AND HAVING MCMICHEAL WHO CAUGHT LOTS OF PASSES TOO NEGATES THE WHO ELSE WAS THERE TO THROW TO LAST YEAR...
McMichael caught a decent amount of balls, but was not a force. He averaged under 10 yards per catch and was far from a threat. Any average receiver could have put up those numbers.
 

Tony

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I agree with Fatal's points. Culpepper was lost without Moss... and I did see at times Moss was triple covered. Moss at one time had this look on his face like "why are you throwing it to me".... Collins almost got him killed throwing into triple coverage one time.
 

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thascary1 said:
It was bad QB yes but I would blame Turner more if I were you guys.

He would run in stupid situations and pretty much force the team to throw when the defenese knew it....We'll see if that changes with Shell.
I agree!!