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IMO an assist can be overrated. if u see an amazing pass or an alley oop then yeah thats the shit but if it's just an easy pass and homeboy shoots then it really aint shit. rebounds everyone is goin for near the rim and are a more important stat. say if ur team was to have 0 rebounds the whole game there would be no way to win that game really. if your team was to have 0 assist u can still win it. I dunno i just feel Rebs are more important, specially in playoffs series
0 rebounds can also mean that the other team shot AMAZINGLY well.

0 assists could mean you didnt make any shots.

Bad comparison and bad argument.
 

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Appearntly, that was Baron Davis' thing until he left...
oh.....I haven't watched the hornets play since grandmama was on that bitch....lol

Although assists are harder to obtain, they are still one of the most overated stat there is in any sport. That's why there are only a few pg's to ever win the regular season MVP award.
overrated? you're hella trippin on that one. a rebound means someone missed.....a tall ass center can miss 3 tips in a row and get 3 rebounds added to his stats.....does that mean he's better than the point guard that just drew the defenders to him and shot it out to the open man for a bucket?
IMO an assist can be overrated. if u see an amazing pass or an alley oop then yeah thats the shit but if it's just an easy pass and homeboy shoots then it really aint shit. rebounds everyone is goin for near the rim and are a more important stat. say if ur team was to have 0 rebounds the whole game there would be no way to win that game really. if your team was to have 0 assist u can still win it. I dunno i just feel Rebs are more important, specially in playoffs series
if someone has 20 rebounds, how many points does the team have? who knows, could be 0

if someone has 10 assists, that means the team has AT LEAST 20 points.


CP3 had 32 points and 17 assists.....that means he's directly responsible for at least 66 points

I think that's WAY bigger than someone with the same points & rebounds
 
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Yawn.....Nobody really cares about assists. It doesn't win games or championships like rebounds do. You'll always hear people say "Defense wins championships" or "The reason why they lost the game is cuz they got out-rebounded 50-20". How many times you hear someone say "Obviously they lost cuz they weren't sharing the ball as much as the other team"? Not too often.

If assist>rebounds then why isn't John Stockton (the all-time assist leader) among the top 10 best PLAYERS to ever play the game. Where's Mark Jackson (2nd all-time in assist) ranked at? I believe Scott Skiles may still hold the record for most assists in a game, how good was he? Do people still talk about that record breaking game today?
 

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maybe you dont care about assists, but ask coaches and players and they'll tell you its a very important stat


besides, who's third on the all time assist list and is he not a top 5 all time player?
 
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Yawn.....Nobody really cares about assists. It doesn't win games or championships like rebounds do. You'll always hear people say "Defense wins championships" or "The reason why they lost the game is cuz they got out-rebounded 50-20". How many times you hear someone say "Obviously they lost cuz they weren't sharing the ball as much as the other team"? Not too often.

If assist>rebounds then why isn't John Stockton (the all-time assist leader) among the top 10 best PLAYERS to ever play the game. Where's Mark Jackson (2nd all-time in assist) ranked at? I believe Scott Skiles may still hold the record for most assists in a game, how good was he? Do people still talk about that record breaking game today?
Going by your last few posts, you have no idea what you're talking about, period.
 
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LMAO same shit I was thinking.

If points>rebounds>assists is true, then why is Jason Kidd held in high regards? He's no scorer, he's a good rebounder for a guard but he's mainly known for assists...For an elite PG, his PPG is terrible. He's getting paid almost $20mil/yr for his play. His stats basically go assists>rebounds>points lol. eventhough his career ppg average is in double figures, it's because your given 2pts for one basket. Your logic is flawed.

It's more about big men that can pass the rock as well as rebound and guards that can rebound as well as pass the rock.

Have you even looked at CP3's #'s??? He fills up the stat sheet, including 20+ ppg.

I do think Kobe should get the MVP this year though. A guy like LBJ thinks Kobe should be MVP, C'mon!
 
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maybe you dont care about assists, but ask coaches and players and they'll tell you its a very important stat


besides, who's third on the all time assist list and is he not a top 5 all time player?
yeah and ask any team, specially a chamionship one if rebounding is important and they'll say yes. i have never even heard of a team winning it all for there assists. yeah magic but he had the rebounds as well as the whole team and thats what got them the chamionship. think of the celtic team that won 13 with bill russel and how much rebounds did he average? well his whole career he averaged 20+ and won 13 chamionships so....

trying to compare assists to rebounds is fucking stupid... Whoever brought it up should be banned from the sports forum now!
just debating on whats better, calm down buddy lol

LMAO same shit I was thinking.

If points>rebounds>assists is true, then why is Jason Kidd held in high regards? He's no scorer, he's a good rebounder for a guard but he's mainly known for assists...For an elite PG, his PPG is terrible. He's getting paid almost $20mil/yr for his play. His stats basically go assists>rebounds>points lol. eventhough his career ppg average is in double figures, it's because your given 2pts for one basket. Your logic is flawed.
yeah well how many championships did kidd win? how many did nash win? face it besides magic all the known passers didnt really win it all and the few that did it wasnt because they passed the ball well. seems like the great passing really helps you get into the playoffs but the great rebounding helps you get into the finals. @ mr pete i feel you would have a different tune if CP3 was averaging 20+ rebs and shit was flipped, kinda homerish i feel but it's all good no disrespect i been there lol.

but yeah the #1 quote used for champions and thats defense wins championships and it's been proven every single year, all the great offense never make it the whole way to get the trophy
 
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and my last post before the one above this one was stupid and a bad comparison so my bad on that lol. i just re read it and dont know what i was thinking but i still feel that rebounds are more important
 
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Youre right, i mean....its not like there are more than one player on the floor at once.

And one of the best PF's EVER in Karl Malone never won a championship either...so what is your point?

LOL @ looking at assists as the only way a team CANT win, and rebounding is the end all stat of championships.

CUs its not like scoring has anythig to do with it.

Some of you people really need to check your sports pulse...cus its dieing fast.
 
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Youre right, i mean....its not like tehre are more than one player on the floor at once.

One of the best Qb's ever to play the GAME never won a superbowl...i guess all his pass completetions were for nill.

LOL @ looking at assists as the only way a team CANT win, and rebounding is the end all stat of championships.

CUs its not like scoring has anythig to do with it.

Some of you people really need to check your sports pulse...cus its dieing fast.
are you kidding me, u acting a fool right now cuz. i just said that rebounding is more important in the playoffs than assists thats all and i was using the fact that the teams known for the assists usually never win it when the ones known for rebounding and defense wins alot of the times thats all. and if you dont see that then check ur sport pulse cause mines working fine.

and just so it's not confusing to you i do feel assists are important in games cause it usually means the ball is moving nicley and guy are getting open but that rebounding stat IMO is one of the most important thing a team needs to get to make a serious playoff push to win it all.
 
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alright plain and simple Defense wins chamionships not offense. it's been proven every fucking year, thats why none of these elite scoring teams never make it to the big dance.