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HERESY

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I can only go into half of this right now.

MAN OH MAN,
I'M JUST WASTIN' THE HOMIES TIME NOW. NAW PLAYA, IF N-ETHANg, WE BOTH WASTIN' OUR TIME CHOPPIN' IT UP. BUT I DON'T CONSIDER IT THAT, CAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT I ALWAYS SOAK SOMETHIN' UP, CHOPPIN' IT UP WITH YOU. I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN YOUR REVELATION. I'M SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE VOICE(SINCE I WASN'T THERE PERSONALLY TO ATTEMPT TO JUDgE IT) AND THE PURPOSE OF (gOD) REVEALIN' HIMSELF TO YOU. BUT I AM OPEN TO LISTEN AND MAKE MY OWN ASSESSMENT. I AIN'T DENYIN' SHI.
Cuzzo, EVERYONE has a job they are to do. Many are called but FEW are chosen. Don't think this is something that I actually desired/wanted because it is not. As far as denial or belief this is a case of either you believe it or you don't. If you don't believe it is of no concern to me personally. If you do believe it it is of no concern to me personally, but should be of concern to the believer because I am saying to get right with God FAST!

THE SOUND, THE COLORATION OF IT?
You can color a sound by simply running it through an EQ and not having anything bypassed. You don't need to boost or cut the signal just run it through so the sound goes through the curcuitry.

THE COLORATION WOULD ADD THAT CERTAIN FULLNESS("WARMTH") WOULDN'T IT IF YOU TWEAKED IT LIKE THAT?
Well, it depends on what type of coloration is being made, because all coloring is different. If it is tweaked like that (to sound "analog") you need the proper gear to do it. What you are running your sound through will have more impact on how you tweek it (in regards to getting THAT sound.)

SO YOU BASICALLY SAYIN' BY RAISIN' THE VOLUME, YOU MAKIN' THE SIgNAL MORE "THIK"?
No. What I am saying is in order to get an in your face sound while tracking you need to use a unit that can be pushed very high without peaking. This is a voltage issue and not so much as volume. If you set the 002r to 12 pm on the gain and set the ssl to 12 pm on the one that is able to be driven more will have a better chance of making the instrument sound in your face, BUT you should always operate at where the pre amp sounds good/best so in some cases lower is better.


I NEVA UNDA-STOOD THAT SHIT BAK WHEN. NOW I KNOW BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER AND FOO'S WILL LABEL SOMETHIN' TOO QUIK. AND NOW SINCE TECHNOLOgY KEEPS CHANgIN'....... BUT YEAH, I JUST ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES. SO WHAT JITTER CLOKS AND CONVERTERS ARE THE BEST FROM WHAT YOU SEEN AND HEARD?
No...no...no. No such thing as a "jitter clock" fam. Its called a clock and a low-jitter clock is simply a clock that has low jitter. Low jitter = GREAT. Mid to high jitter = TERRIBLE. Apogee makes good ones.

HOLD UP, NOW YOU SAYIN' "NO", BUT YOU PREVIOUSLY SAID "YES". DISTORTION AND SATURATION IS WHAT TAPE DOES TO ADD THAT "WARMTH", RIgHT?
What I am saying is simply dumping to tape will NOT allow you to get "warmth" and this happens for several reasons. The first is bad tape heads. The second is bad tape. The third is recording at the wrong speed. The fourth is the summing buss of the console, and the fifth is NOT hitting the tape like you should (meaning your average peak on the tape is -26 when you should have hit +6db on the meter.) All of these things if done properly WILL contribute to that sound, but the engineer will help contribute also, and this is why I say simply dumping it to tape will not get you what you want. You have to know HOW to do it.

What I am saying is WARM is a stupid term that people use. A sound cannot be "warm" or "cold".

YEAH. I WAS ASKIN' HOW DO YOU DESCRIBE WHAT IS LABELED "WARMTH" OF A SOUND. WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT FULLNESS?
Warmth = saturation/distortion.

Fullness = something that was properly recorded or mixed. I don't say things like "see how that bass sounds full?" or "I like how the snare drum is full". I know what the terms mean, but I opt to not use them unless someone else is using them and I need to talk to them in those terms.

THAT'S WHY YOU ASK, CAUSE YOU DON'T UNDA-STAND IT AND HE WOULD BE THE TOP AUTHORITY ON CLARIFYIN' SUCH.
Yet you would have NO WAY to know if I am telling the truth or not.

YHWH IS NOT A gOD OF CONFUSION.
Correct.

HE KNOWS HIS OWN NAME, SO WHY WOULD SHIT BE TRIVIAL TO HIM CAUSE IT'S TRIVIAL TO US BASED ON HUMAN ERROR?
So if it is trivial to us why should I waste my time on it? Why should I waste time going over the same thing with you over and over again? Did God himself ever tell you his name was YHWH? Did he tell you how to pronounce it?

SO WHY EQUATE AS YHWH AS BEIN' CONFUSED(TRIVIAL) TO THE PRONUNCIATION OF HIS OWN NAME?
Who said ANYTHING about confusion? STOP MANGLING MY WORDS. TRIVIAL DOES NOT MEAN CONFUSION. Please, either start reading before you type a response or don't type a response at all because right now you aren't making any since homie.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trivial

IF N-E-THANg HE LET'S IT BE KNOWN IN SCRIPTURE ABOUT HIS NAME AND DIFFERENTIATES HIMSELF FROM OTHA "gODS".
EX. 3:15; ISA. 12:4; EZEK. 38:17, 18
So? How is this applicable to what we are talking about? What name did he declare to Job?

I LEARNED THIS FROM TAKIN' IT UPON MYSELF TO RESEARCH SCRIPTURE, MEDITATIN' OVER THE MESSAgE RELATED, AND FORMIN' MY OWN CONCLUSIONS.
So basically you admit to reading what someone else wrote and forming your own opinion because it felt right.

SO WHAT EDJ BELIEVES AIN'T SHIT, BUT WHAT HERESY BELIEVES IS IN THE gRANDER SCHEME OF THANgS?
In THIS instance what you believe does not matter! Why? Because I don't care WHAT you believe! How many different ways can I say it? Do you need to see it in Latin? Greek? Hebrew? Ebonics? Again, what EDJ believes does NOT matter in determining if it was him or not. EDJ's beliefs are insignificant in this aspect.

I ONLY CAN CONSIDER IT TO THE OTHA INFORMATION THAT I KNOW CONCERNIN' THE TOPIC AND FORM MY OWN ASSESSMENTS.
So, if you can only consider it and form your own assessments is this info detrimental to doing so? NO. Why? Because you already have a set of beliefs, and if I were to say "A" you would say "no its B" if "A" did not coincide with what you came with on your own.

I'LL TAKE WHAT YOU WERE TOLD INTO CONSIDERATION IN gETTIN' DOWN TO THE NITTY gRITTY OF THE TOPIC AND MATTER.
You are over 5 years LATE. I've gone over the topic hundreds of times now, I've said the same thing each and everytime. Why you choose to talk about it now is useless. Why? Because you were here when I first came here and you said little to nothing in opposition. Now you are trying to debate something that I am saying I am NOT going to debate. This is something that you either BELIEVE or you DON'T.

NOW, MICHAEL AND JESUS BEIN' THE SAME ENTITY, THAT'S ANOTHA TOPIC AND I WOULD QUESTION EVERYTHANg. I WOULD BRINg FORWARD EVERY INSTANCE IN SCRIPTURE THE ARCH ANgEL IS MENTIONED AND REVIEW WHAT'S PRESENTED AND ATTEMPT TO COME WITH A CONCLUSION
Sure.

I JUST KNOW A FEW WORDS. BUT I AIN'T JEWISH MAN. COME ON NOW.
Knowing this to be true, how do you know for sure that Gods name is YHWH and thats how it is pronounced? Because you read something written by a man, because you thought about it for a bit, and because it fit in with your belief system?

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TRANSLATE AND RECITE LYRICS IN HEBREW?
Yes, but I wouldn't want to.

HE USED "gOD ALMIgHTY" TO ABRAHAM, "YHWH" TO JACOB, BUT HIS PERSONAL NAME IS YHWH WHICH MEANS, "HE CAUSES TO BECOME.
Exodus 6:2-3

ALRIgHTY THEN. NOBODY ASKED YOU TO CARE.
Knowing this do you think I am going to waste both of our time by trying to PROVE it to you? Trying to prove it is something I have NEVER attempted to do nor will I ever attempt to do it.

THEN THAT WOULD LET ME KNOW SOMETHIN'.
What you WANT to know is insignificant. If I tell you it is one way you are going to believe another. You either believe what I am telling you or you don't. No in between zone exists.

MOST DON'T KNOW HIS NAME. SO HOW CAN YOU gET RIgHT WITH SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW?
YOU DON'T KNOW HIS NAME! HAS HE HIMSELF EVER TOLD YOU HIS NAME? NO? So how do you know it? You read and formed your own conclusions right?

ASSUMIN' IT WAS (gOD) AND THAT IT WAS "ACCURATE KNOWLEDgE", OF COURSE YOU WOULD BE WASTIN' YOUR TIME, UNLESS I WAS ONE OF THE ONES YOU WAS TELLIN' ABOUT (gOD)'S MESSAgE.
This doesn't even make sense. Listen, If I told you "A" you would say "B". End of discussion.

I AIN'T WASTIN' SHIT.
No, seriously you are. In the MAJORITY of your posts you go round and round and round and round, until people get tired of it and either don't post or call you on your tactics. Very few people know how to battle this tactic effectively but several have pointed it out. Again, you are wasting my time, by trying to go over this. If you believe me you do, if you don't you don't. It doesn't bother me one bit, but stop wasting my time trying to get me to DEBATE it.

AND I'M STILL TRYIN' TO DETERMINE IF I WANT TO BELIEVE.
If I were in a hostile mood, I would openly laugh at you for typing that. The fact that I am actually sitting here nodding my head in disbelief makes it even worse. Listen, take the advice that I have ALWAYS given since day one. ASK GOD. Go and ask God if I you are to believe me.

SWITCH SHOES. IF I CAME TO YOU PROFESSIN' WHAT YOU IS PROFESSIN', YOU WOULDN'T ATLEAST QUESTION ME? YOU JUST AIN'T gONNA SOAK IT CAUSE SOMEONE SPIT IT.
The first thing I would do is do what I am instructed to do. After that I would have no more need to question it. The problem I have with YOU is that you are TRYING to debate something that was stated almost 5 years ago. This is NOT something I am going to sit and debate. Have I ever asked ANYONE to believe me? NO! Have I ever asked anyone to follow me? NO! Have I ever asked anyone to join a church? NO! Have I gained ANYTHING financially from telling anyone this? NO! What have I done? I told people to TURN TO GOD HIMSELF, ask him teh questions, learn from the holy spirit etc. If I were professing ME (like ALL OF THE DECEIVERS) I would have done it by now. However, I have said the same thing since the begining and now I have to waste my time with you.

EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
Because you don't want to and because you want to waste my time debating.

THE INFO. IF (gOD) CAME TO ME(LIKE IN YOUR CASE) THEN HE TELLIN' ME.
This doesn't even make sense. Listen, if I tell you "A" you are going to believe "B". End of discussion.

BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE. MAN, I KNEW SHOULD'VE QUOTED YOU FROM JUMP.
Falsely attributing words to me or replying without reading is the #1 reason why I run people through the ringer.

I DIDN'T. THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
Yes you did.

IN SCRIPTURE HE TELLS US.
Yet you cant even read the scriptures, you don't know how the name is pronounced and you have yet to ever see it spelled. The only thing you have done is read YHWH (or the many varients) and heard the many pronounciations. NOTHING MORE. Also, in scripture he tells us many things. Do you follow them or do you simply take what benefits you and toss the rest? Do you live your life in accordance to what the scriptures teach or do you make excuses as to why you don't?

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SKEPTICAL HIM JUST COMIN' NOWADAYS TALKIN' TO MUTHA-FUKAS.
You are years LATE. If you wanted to talk about thsi you would have done it PLENTY of times before I chose to not discuss religion/spirituality on this board. YOu had AMPLE time. You simply want to waste my time, and after this post I will not devote any more time to YOU in this thread. If others want to ask and be skeptical thats fine. Gimpypimp is skeptical do you see me going back and fourth with him the same way I am going back and fourth with you? No? Why is that? BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DEBATE NOT LEARN.

I AM ONE OF THE FEW THAT REALLY FOUND THAT INTERESTIN'.
One of the few that found it interesting? LMAO! I receieved HUNDREDS of PMS and HUNDREDS of emails in regards to the subject. Things were OFF THE CHARTS on 9-11 and a lot fo perspectives CHANGED. You are giving yourself TOO MUCH CREDIT edj.

BUT DUE TO THE SICCNESS gOIN' DOWN, ALL THAT gOT LOST IN OBLIVION AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD REPOST THAT INFO.
For you? NO. Because you want to debate this issue.

IF NOT ATLEAST gIVE A DOg A BONE. THE BOOK OF JAMES CAN BE TRANSLATED BY ME DIFFERENTLY THEN HOW YOU ARE ASSESSIN' IT.
Why are we having this discussion? If you are going to "translate" it differently why are we having this discussion? WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?

SHIT, N-E-THANg WE KNOW ABOUT (gOD) AND OUR EXISTENCE LIES IN SCRIPTURE. THE DEVIL USES THAT KNOWLEDgE TO HIS ADVANTAgE, DECEPTIONS, LIES, AND MANIPULATION. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU ARE A FOOL.
AGAIN, WHAT I AM TELLING YOU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING WELL VERSED IN SCRIPTURE. THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING WELL VERSED IN SCRIPTURE. HOMIE STOP WASTING MY TIME. SERIOUSLY. I say this with no malice or anger, but you are wasting my time. If I give you something to read you say its this. If I tell you ABC you make an excuse and say you can trasnlate it as XYZ. STOP WASTING MY TIME.

HE'LL EITHA TWIST THE QUESTION, MANIPULATE IT OR MAKE IT OUT TO BE SOMETHIN' ELSE. CASE IN POINT: HE'LL ANSWER "YES" KNOWIN' DAMN WELL "gOD" IS A TITLE AND HE HIMSELF IS A gOD.
Satan does NOT worship God and could NEVER make that claim. Homie, instead of asking em questions go read the bible and spend your time with God.

EXACTLY. AND ONE OF THEM IS THE UTTERANCE OF HIS NAME.
LOL! This is not biblical, the question I asked IS biblical and we are comamded to do it ANYTIME instances like this pop up.

ALRIgHT CUZZ.
You ask me anything else about this and you'll be ignored. You simply want to debate.
 
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HERESY said:
I already told you what God said. Also, when those who are children of God hear his voice they automatically know. It is the same with animals. A calf in africa can be around 1 million wildebeast, yet thet calf will know EXACTLY where its mother is and which one is its mother regardless of how many are around and doing what they do.
I mean his first words. Did he say "Hi"? "Hello my son"? "This is God"? In what way did he introduce himself?

And if you automatically knew it was him...why would you have to test the voice?

Because things HAPPEN and these are things I have NO CONTROL over or have NO previous knowledge of. My brothers marriage is a prime example.
I don't see how that answers my question.

Is it that you don't care about the subject or you don't care about discussing it with him? If you don't care about the subject why are we discussing it?
I don't care about discussing it with him. At first I do, but he tends to ramble...you get tired of it after a while. I do find it interesting though.

Not just any voice or voices. THE VOICE OF GOD HIMSELF.
Says you.

EVERYONE hears voices. You hear a voice when you can't decide on eating pizza or steak, when you don't know if you should turn left or make a sharp right. You hear your inner voice.
And maybe this is your inner voice you're hearing.

He probably can, and when I mentioned dead people and something being up that wasn't a good thing. If a person is claiming to speak with the dead that person is involved with something they shouldn't be involved in.
I agree.

See, the difference between your friend and myself is I could actually care less if people believe me lol! Yes, on the surface it looks INSANE, but getting people to believe it is not my problem.
Don't you want people to believe you? Otherwise, what's the purpose of telling anyone anything? Yes, it's not your "problem", but I would think that you would want people to believe what you're saying.

Also, what do you consider "extreme"?
I don't know...maybe breaking things, harming himself, harming someone else. Not saying he would do these things of course, but I would consider those extreme.

I'm not familiar with how people go out of their way to make others believe them. I should ask him what other people did to land them in the hospital.
 

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ALRIgHT HERESY,
I'M H, YOUR g(OR I'M A, AND YOUR B). JUST THOUgHT WE'D SHARE INFO. JUST KNOW THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE TRUTH. AND N-E-THANg WE gAIN AS FAR AS KNOWLEDgE IS CAUSE YOU READ IT, EXPERIENCE IT, OR HEARD IT.
BEFORE BAK WHEN BEFORE THAT 9-11 SHIT, I WAS YOUNgER DOIN' DIFFERENT SHIT. NOW AS AN OLDER MAN I HAVE SOAKED MORE gAME AND SEEN MORE CLEARLY YOUR VIEWPOINTS AND STANCES. BUT YEAH, I MIgHT AS WELL NOT EVEN gET INTO ALL THIS WITH YOU OR EVEN COME TO THE g.O.M.
I JUST THOUgHT I'D ENQUIRE ABOUT THE VOICE YOU HEARD, CAUSE WHEN I WAS AROUND 13 A VOICE CAME TO ME, BUT IT TOLD ME "DON'T LET NOBODY TOUCH YOU". AND THAT MUTHA-FUKA SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME. IT WAS RIgHT THERE AND I WAS IN A LITTLE ASS ROOM IN THE BASEMENT IN THE DARK. CAN'T EXPLAIN IT.
 

HERESY

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@Gimpy

I mean his first words. Did he say "Hi"? "Hello my son"? "This is God"? In what way did he introduce himself?

And if you automatically knew it was him...why would you have to test the voice?
No, he called me by my name and I heard it. After that I tested the voice. Why would I have to test the voice? Because the bible says to test/try spirits/voices to see if they are from God or not. You want to know why people go off and join wacky churches and follow strange people? Because they don't keep it simple and are easily mislead. Test the spirits/voices and if they confess/profess/testify/proclaim A they are from God. If they beat around the bush, give you some half truth or don't answer...well...they are NOT from God.

I don't see how that answers my question.
Here is your original question:

Since you already know the answer...how do you know it wasn't you answering yourself. Not saying you're crazy, but maybe you just really want to believe that it's him?
My answer was:

Because things HAPPEN and these are things I have NO CONTROL over or have NO previous knowledge of. My brothers marriage is a prime example.
Now, first off, anyone with the ability to read and comprehend what has been typed can put this together. You are asking me how do I know I was not answering myself. My answer to you is how can I say something is going to happen and it happens? How am I going to tell myself "Wake up, email your brother and tell him "A-B-C" when I had NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE concerning his problem? As far as me asking the question and answering that would mean I would have to have a voice that sounds like many delays stacked on top of each other. No. I CANNOT answer myself, predict things that are going to happen (that actually do end up happening) and talk to people about problems I have no prior knowledge of.

I don't care about discussing it with him. At first I do, but he tends to ramble...you get tired of it after a while. I do find it interesting though.
So he tends to ramble? Maybe he needs help or maybe you should listen to him instead of mocking him in your mind/heart when he speaks.

Says you.
Says God himself. Do you beleive in God?

And maybe this is your inner voice you're hearing.
Do you know what a delay sounds like? I've yet to hear anyone who claims their inner voice sounds like multiple delays at different pitches all stacked on top of each other. Also, if it IS my inner voice that would mean I have the power to predict what is going to happen or what is happening in the lives of others. This is NOT something that I have claimed to have. What I have said and what I will continue to say is that GOD HIMSELF SAID IT. Not HERESY, not the inner voice of heresy, not the guy next door, not some 501 c3 preacher, not some hell fire and brimestone prophet. It takes one of two type of people to say "GOD SAID _____"; A NUTCASE/DECEIVER or a person who was actually told by God to say "____" Now, what you believe is of no importance to me, because YOU have to answer to your maker when you die, and when you stand before him and he asks why didn't you believe, and you say, "because no one told me" and he tells you "Heresy told you why didn't you listen to him?" Thats going to be on YOU. YOUR BLOOD WON'T BE ON MY HANDS.

And trust me, on face value it DOES look insane. Here it is someone is claiming to have talked to God in this day in age. A day where God is trampled on by heathens and people who profess to believe in him yet murder the prophets and children. It also looked insane when a man was building a boat and told people that destruction was coming and to get right with God. They laughed, mocked him, spit on him, married, were given in marriage and lived a self serving life. Finally, when the flood came and destroyed them it was too late. This is the SAME thing that is happening now. You have someone (not just me) telling you about the wrath to come yet you don't believe it. Yeshi said the end times would be JUST LIKE THIS, and this is why I DON'T take it personal or take it to heart. Again, you either believe what I am telling you or you don't. NO IN BETWEEN AREA EXISTS.

Don't you want people to believe you?
I want people to believe God. I want people to believe Yeshua is the one who came in the flesh to die for the sins of many. I want people to believe the words of Ra-Hakodesh. I don't need any belief or glory.

Otherwise, what's the purpose of telling anyone anything?
The purpose of telling them is to show that I am obedient. The purpose of doing it is I was given a job to do and I must do it. Regardless if one or all believe it doesn't matter because I did my job.

Yes, it's not your "problem", but I would think that you would want people to believe what you're saying.
I want people to believe God and to get ready for what is about to happen to this country and this world. Do I want people to be saved from destruction? Yes. Is everyone going to be saved from destruction? NO. If people care or not is not my concern when the day is over. My concern is that I get the message out and that they hear it and see it.

I don't know...maybe breaking things, harming himself, harming someone else. Not saying he would do these things of course, but I would consider those extreme.
Yes, these are extremes and anyone doing this needs help.

I'm not familiar with how people go out of their way to make others believe them. I should ask him what other people did to land them in the hospital.
Others as in those locked in the mental ward? They probably did everything you previously mentioned. Broke stuff, harmed themselves, harmed others, etc.
 
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Hey guys,

I'm new here but would like to share my experience with you all.

I have been 'lead' by God in a life changing experience, in several dreams he didn't speak to me, he only showed me and I remember at that point in time I knew what was going on and in the dream, questioned the reality of it. If you ask me what the dreams where about I can't tell you because I don't remember, but what I do remember is it saved my life and made me believe in God.

This was many years ago and I have not had any recent experiences with God, I think it might have to do with me sinning alot then praying for forgiveness EVERY night. However the scale of my sins are what I would like to think, 'minor'. Previous sins where alot worse and I didn't pray for forgiveness. It's only when shit hit the fan I didn't know where to turn to so I turned to God. Eventually he answered me and my life is much better now.

Before I go to sleep I have conversations with him in my mind and the response I think of to my questions hit me in a split second even though I don't want them to be the answers. But I ignore the answers at times and I think that might contribute to why he doesnt show me direction anymore in my dreams, either that or my life right now is good in his eyes and he leaves me be.

It's all too confusing, but I know that IF I can get into heaven I'll find all the answers..