Christianity is stupid as fuck...

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Have any Christians in here actually read the Bible? If you have, what made you believe this big book of bullshit was true? There are so many contradictions.

It says to worship only God, but then that it is okay to worship Jesus. And all that bullshit about THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE DEVIL DO IT OUT OF FEAR. THOSE WHO WORSHIP GOD DO SO OUT OF LOVE. GOD is a pretty fuckin scurry dude if you ask me. He talks about IF YOU DEFY ME YOU WILL BURN IN HELL and makes a shitload of other threats to those who do not follow him.

Just one more question; why was the Book of Enoch not included in the Bible?
 
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get off the bible's nuts
it's just a book with some stories
noone ever said they were all true
if they did then they're an idiot
also stupid people shouldn't read the bible cause they wont understand it n it could make em crazy
 
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MizeryU said:
get off the bible's nuts
it's just a book with some stories
noone ever said they were all true
if they did then they're an idiot
also stupid people shouldn't read the bible cause they wont understand it n it could make em crazy
huh?
 
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"It says to worship only God, but then that it is okay to worship Jesus."


Okay. I am not a Christian, but in the Vedas it explains that the pure devotee of God is just as good as God and is therefore worshipable. Worshipping God through a succession is fine. For example, in the Vedas there are many personalities who, through worshipping demigods, are worshipping the Supreme Lord by offer their obeisances to this demigod for how he/she very nicely rendered service to the Lord. So, one can even worship God through His associates. But then, I figure most Christians would just tell you that Jesus is God; one-third of the trinity.
 
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RuThLeSs RiCk: Do you know and understand that the Bible was written by human beings like us? Do you understand that the Bible was not written in the English language? I have yet to read this great book, but I have an understanding for how it was written/re-written, and more importantly, though I can not prove it with my own skills, I understand that it is often misinterpreted. Much of this can be attributed to the translations and alterations this book has endured over hundreds of years.

If I could get my hands on an original version of the Bible, written in a non-enlish language, I would study that language, and read it. But as of right now, I could not tell you if I was reading a genuine observatrion of Jesus, or some added writings put on paper to help shape the new-age christian philosophy. Religion (including the Bible) has been watered down to fit those who are in control of it. For these reason I shun religion and establish my own relationship with God. If God approaches me and tells me to read the Bible, I will do so without question, and I will believe that it is genuine. But if not, I will have to assume--with knowledge of this worlds corruption--that the Bible is not as it once was.

Christianity teaches to love one another and to be peaceful. Even if it is a false religion, how could it be stupid as fuck?

I don't think it is wrong to read and worship the Bible.
I also do not think it is wrong to question it.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
If God approaches me and tells me to read the Bible, I will do so without question, and I will believe that it is genuine.
That’s exactly what I’m saying bro! I ask god all the time, “A-yo Gods? What’s crackin man. Anywho, I was thinking about drinkin these 40’s and having unprotected sex with these broads. You think I should or shouldn’t? Just say no if you think it’s wrong, ok mayn?” He’s always cool with my decisions ‘cuz he never tells me not do it, so you know, I must be doing right!
 
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^ you have a good point
you must be doin okay then
but i doubt god will ever holler out "2-0-SIIIIIIXX, DONT FUCK THOSE BROOOADS"
instead he'd do sumthin fucked up like you'd get in a car wreck n your dick would get ripped the fuck
or sumthin else fucked up
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
That’s exactly what I’m saying bro! I ask god all the time, “A-yo Gods? What’s crackin man. Anywho, I was thinking about drinkin these 40’s and having unprotected sex with these broads. You think I should or shouldn’t? Just say no if you think it’s wrong, ok mayn?” He’s always cool with my decisions ‘cuz he never tells me not do it, so you know, I must be doing right!

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Man, I'm fuckin fallin out of my chair over here...LMFAO!!

Nitro and 2-0, I never thought of it like that, that's a really good fuckin point. I mean, I do believe, but lately I've been believing on my own terms, making right with god if I feel it is necessary. There is absolutely no reason to go to church or read the bible in order to make right with a higher power. The bible, in it's entirety, is a book with stories full of lessons and some moral ideals, which we as humans are "supposed to learn from". Some of us do, some of us don't. We all make our own paths.

I don't believe Christianity is stupid as fuck, then again I don't believe buddhism or Catholicism or any other religion is stupid as fuck. Some people choose these things as a form of guidance, and it helps them, but not everybody needs it. What's the point of bashing other peoples belief structure?

But 2-0 and Nitro, I agree 100% with y'all, that's some real spit.
 
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RuThLeSs RiCk said:
Have any Christians in here actually read the Bible? If you have, what made you believe this big book of bullshit was true? There are so many contradictions.

It says to worship only God, but then that it is okay to worship Jesus. And all that bullshit about THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE DEVIL DO IT OUT OF FEAR. THOSE WHO WORSHIP GOD DO SO OUT OF LOVE. GOD is a pretty fuckin scurry dude if you ask me. He talks about IF YOU DEFY ME YOU WILL BURN IN HELL and makes a shitload of other threats to those who do not follow him.

Just one more question; why was the Book of Enoch not included in the Bible?
Aside from giving your opinion what else did you mean to accomplish? At least most other Atheist/agnostics give out evidence to back up their claims. Use biblical passages, church dogma, etc to prove your point. Otherwise I have no reason to believe that what you say is true.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
RuThLeSs RiCk: Do you know and understand that the Bible was written by human beings like us? Do you understand that the Bible was not written in the English language? I have yet to read this great book, but I have an understanding for how it was written/re-written, and more importantly, though I can not prove it with my own skills, I understand that it is often misinterpreted. Much of this can be attributed to the translations and alterations this book has endured over hundreds of years.

If I could get my hands on an original version of the Bible, written in a non-enlish language, I would study that language, and read it. But as of right now, I could not tell you if I was reading a genuine observatrion of Jesus, or some added writings put on paper to help shape the new-age christian philosophy. Religion (including the Bible) has been watered down to fit those who are in control of it. For these reason I shun religion and establish my own relationship with God. If God approaches me and tells me to read the Bible, I will do so without question, and I will believe that it is genuine. But if not, I will have to assume--with knowledge of this worlds corruption--that the Bible is not as it once was.

Christianity teaches to love one another and to be peaceful. Even if it is a false religion, how could it be stupid as fuck?

I don't think it is wrong to read and worship the Bible.
I also do not think it is wrong to question it.
I agree with you 100% Nitro. I have also considered learning the Hebrew language and reading the original bible. Some books are written in Aramaic and Greek, also, so you would have to learn those two languages in addition to Hebrew. I still don't believe Jesus was divine, and I never will, but I would like to look at the bible from a historical perspective.

2-0-sixx..hahahahaa...your God's the shit...

Nitro, here is the Bible in Hebrew and English. Knock yourself out homie. If you find anything interesting, let me know.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm

Of course, even the Hebrew writings could have been altered to better suit those who want to use religion as a device for exploitation, but this is as close as we're gonna get.
 
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But then, I figure most Christians would just tell you that Jesus is God; one-third of the trinity
Part of your statement is true, that Jesus is God, the second part however is not at all true. There never was a trinity, church history along with scriptural documentation lays more than enough of a foundation to this understanding.

The trinity doctrine came long after the account of the church fathers who understood and preserved the oneness view of God. The first recorded documentation of it was by Tertullian, the father of Christian Trinitranism. He lived from 150- 225 A.D. Thier are different understandings of the trinity doctrine.
If I could get my hands on an original version of the Bible, written in a non-enlish language, I would study that language, and read it. But as of right now, I could not tell you if I was reading a genuine observatrion of Jesus, or some added writings put on paper to help shape the new-age christian philosophy
One thing to note about understanding the writing of the bible is to first starting with the most accurate translation. The other is that the word of God was not just written by men on their own accord, but the bible says that men were moved or directed by God to write the things therin. If the word of God was important to God when he instructed man to write it, Im sure its preservation of accuracy was also important to God.

Word in the bible is translated Logos, it means the plan in the mind of God. His forethought, Jesus did not physically exist except in the mind of God. He knew when he created mankind what was capable of transpiring, so in the mind of God he knew Jesus would be the lamb led to the slaughter. Not a second person in the Godhead but God himself would have to take on the form of man.

God has individuality, personality, and rationality, He is Omnipotent(Having all power) he is Omniscient(all knowing)and his Omnipresesent(everywhere present at all times) His oneness was taught throughout the Old Testament and reafirmed in the New Testament. No one will ever be able to dispell the truth of how masterfully woven the scriptures were laced together to deal with all the issues it does with direction to lean on.

God even loves the atheist that does not believe he exists. His hands are not to far where he cant reach you, his ears are not to heavy where he cant hear you, and neither are his eyes covered where he still dosent see you and hope that he can establish a relationship with you.
Just one more question; why was the Book of Enoch not included in the Bible?
Who told you that such a book existed? Enoch was translated to heaven, and there isn't any mention aside from this of him.
 
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Christianity (as well as other forms of organized religion) is a form of brainwashing and oppression in my opinion.

If you think about it, certain pastors make a good chunk of cash. I went to this priest's house once and he was completely decked out like a dealer. Large screen television, a dope ass kitchen, nice furniture.....and I am thinking.....WTF kind of a priest can make this kind of cash?????
 
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Part of your statement is true, that Jesus is God, the second part however is not at all true. There never was a trinity, church history along with scriptural documentation lays more than enough of a foundation to this understanding.

The trinity doctrine came long after the account of the church fathers who understood and preserved the oneness view of God. The first recorded documentation of it was by Tertullian, the father of Christian Trinitranism. He lived from 150- 225 A.D. Thier are different understandings of the trinity doctrine.

One thing to note about understanding the writing of the bible is to first starting with the most accurate translation. The other is that the word of God was not just written by men on their own accord, but the bible says that men were moved or directed by God to write the things therin. If the word of God was important to God when he instructed man to write it, Im sure its preservation of accuracy was also important to God.

Word in the bible is translated Logos, it means the plan in the mind of God. His forethought, Jesus did not physically exist except in the mind of God. He knew when he created mankind what was capable of transpiring, so in the mind of God he knew Jesus would be the lamb led to the slaughter. Not a second person in the Godhead but God himself would have to take on the form of man.

God has individuality, personality, and rationality, He is Omnipotent(Having all power) he is Omniscient(all knowing)and his Omnipresesent(everywhere present at all times) His oneness was taught throughout the Old Testament and reafirmed in the New Testament. No one will ever be able to dispell the truth of how masterfully woven the scriptures were laced together to deal with all the issues it does with direction to lean on.

God even loves the atheist that does not believe he exists. His hands are not to far where he cant reach you, his ears are not to heavy where he cant hear you, and neither are his eyes covered where he still dosent see you and hope that he can establish a relationship with you.

Who told you that such a book existed? Enoch was translated to heaven, and there isn't any mention aside from this of him.
OK, so you say Jesus is God. What about the Virgin Mary? Is she also God, because many pray to her too.

The scriptures were all written in the same place at the same time. Nothing masterful about that.

The books of Enoch were excluded from the Bible. You can find info on the web about the book. What about the fact that Jesus said that he is not found in Church, but everywhere?
 
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OK, so you say Jesus is God. What about the Virgin Mary? Is she also God, because many pray to her too.
Absolutely not, the virgin Mary was simply a vessel used by God. The many you are referring to come from the study of catholicism or the catholic church.

Many hated, despised and thought that Jesus was blasphemouse because he mentioned he was the son of God. Therefore equating him with God in their eyes. The people at that time expected God to come in some magnificent glory and splendor, and when they saw the carpenter(Jesus) a lowly man. They thought he was crazy and showed their disbelief to him.

To this day many still question his first coming. The key is in understanding the Godhead or the revelation of God being manifested in the flesh. Many doctrines will deny the deity of Christ, they will subdue him to a demigod or a great prophet.

The scriptures were all written in the same place at the same time. Nothing masterful about that.
Not quite true, the scriptures were not all written at the same time. Historical documentation will prove the chronological order so to speak. And the fact that the scriptures have endured its accuracy and has had no need for changing is enough in itself. Not to mention the countless principles, the endless amounts of guidance and direction it gives to every day life and need I remind you of the prophetical occurences mentioned that have all come to pass. That in itself is Masterful my friend. Find me another book that even tries to compare.
The books of Enoch were excluded from the Bible. You can find info on the web about the book.
I have heard of the apocrypha and understand their were books that were supposedly added and lacked authenticity. The emphasis shall be placed on the word added.
What about the fact that Jesus said that he is not found in Church, but everywhere?
More importantly, what about the fact that the bible say to forsake not the assembling of yourselves together? I mentioned Jesus was everywhere implying his Omnipresence, Everywhere present at the same time.I know many make the argument of living for God being a personal relationship between the individual and him. And I agree wholeheartedly, They however use it to show that they don't need the structure or instruction from a person appointed by God to minister to them.

It remains comical to me that their is structure in everything we do in life to some degree or another. Teachers to teach in education, Doctors, lawyers even Police for protection etc.. But throw in God and the structure has to go out the door. Everyone and their mom has an opinion about God but few will draw the line, substantiated their belief with documentation or confirmation.

I don't need assistance, I dont need the church, I don't even need God. To each his own. God even loves you my friend, despite your lack of knowledge, comprehension and desire to know him. He will still come to knock on the door of your heart and question "now is it a good time for me to come in to your life?" No matter how much we deny we need him, we will still need him period. He is the perfect gentleman.

Many have already hated, showed their disbelief, were theist, atheist etc.. when he walked among them in times of old. He did mention it would continue long after he would be crucified.
So if they did it in his face when they had all the proof they needed, what more will this generation try when he isn't physically on the scene? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.