Christianity is based on Egyptian Myths - Jesus Christ is Horus?

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Again, It's a myth, I am repeating an established myth, why are you such a cretin? I've even posted a link to the myth on the previous page, I suggest you take a look. You seem unable to digest normal information..

Who says I havent? I never said your myth was WRONG, i just pointed out the fact that its a MYTH, and thats enough for me to shove all validation OUT the window.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

I guess. Again, you are truly creepy and I have no idea who you are. Good thing I take no serious approach to what goof ball siccness members like to say and pull out of their ass when they have no answers. I smell intimidation and desperation.

Just say the word, and ill dig the shit up...its nothin.

^That's rather ignorant to say, and baseless at that..

This coming from someone who worships a god, so of course you think its basless and ignorant.

My point was that this is irrelevant as Horus is a falcon.. Shows how much you know about the myth and how easily distracted you are.. And thanx for the compliment (about me being intelligent), can't say the same for you tho.. I'll think of another compliment and get back to you when I do.

When did i say Horus was or was not a falcon? However, did he NOT have a falcon head?

Im distracted? Yet, here you are backing claims of "myths"...talk about distracted.

And when i said intelligent, i meant ACTS intelligent...my bad.

Homie, I dont need any validation from you on my level of intelligence or anything below or beyond that...you know squat about me and I know squat about you...besides the way you present yourself on ths internet. For all I know, youre actually a chick who is really fat...what difference does it make?

 

[ParkBoyz]

Does it matter how long ago it was?

Yes, since you're the one making the ad hominem claim, I challenged you to back it up but you mumble over your words and provide many inconsistencies that would lead any sound, unbiased mind to doubt everything you say. 6 months, 3 months, 8 months, 11 months, damn you're a low-life liar! Hahaha!

First you call me creepy for having a good memory, now youre bashing me for it...

A good memory? How is that when you keep changing your bullshit story pops, you must have dementia you delusional coward..

way to be a hypocrite.

I don't see how? You're just a stupid liar who got caught, that simple..

The reason I remember you, is

Because you're a fucking weirdo, since I don't remember YOU! No way for me to confirm what you speak of..

becuase you were an ignorant fuck who thought being a gangster was the coolest thing on earth while showing all the signs of a socialpath. Are you disputing this?

I won't dispute that I flame clowns on siccness and always have..

Am I just making this up?

No, you're just being selective, overstating, and using it for an argument in a topic where it doesn't apply, which is sort of pathetic but I entertain it for comedic purposes.

Do want me to dig up some posts proving this? I have a cool job where I do nothing but go to school and surf the net..It is what it is, right?

Go ahead, just shows how much of a loser you really are... LOL! That is so funny..

What am I saving face from?

From being wrong about the subject that we're supposed to be discussing.

I am confused by this statement.

You seem confused by a lot of things. Dates, texts, religion, you're just one confused son of a bitch..

I am merely pointing out your quick turn in attitude over a period of time.

Why? Even if that were true(which it isn't, but oh well)..

Whether that be a w eek ago a 6 months ago, does it matter?

Yes, as that is a big difference and leads people to conclude that you're just being spiteful and deceitful..

You showed all the signs of being happy you learned something like logic that you use it every chance you get...way to be transparent.

I do not remember anything like that, like you pulled that right out of the air. I put this on my life that you are truly truly freaking me out, you are the strangest person I've ever encountered on this forum, I swear to God. LOL! I feel so bad for you and your illusions..

Again with the rhetoric, how cute. See? I can point it out too! Arent I cool???

No, you are not cool, you are an extremely weird guy with no answers..

Maybe maybe not, again, this has nothing to do with any imaginary correlation between Jesus and Horus, which has been soundly refuted and not addressed directly here. This post consists of hot air and rhetoric. The point is that they got nearly all of "the translations wrong"..

So the fact the Horus was born the 25th, performed miracles, including som of the same miracles as Jesus, and died of a crucifixtion and was resurected 3 days later wrong? if it is, then we all stand corrected. If that is the case, then YES, there is a DIRECT correlation.

He wasn't born on December 25th(and according to many, neither was Jesus), did not perform any miracles that coincides with Jesus, he was not crucified, wasn't resurrected(that was Osiris), and all you're doing is repeating lies like you always do it seems, and I've posted a lengthy rebuttal a few pages back. Pay attention...

A diversion? Homie, this topic is techynically a SUB thread of religion, is it not? Are we NOT talking about 2 beings of religion? If so, I must not be able to read, but I thought the thread had the names "Jesus" and "Horus" in it...:ermm:

Topic of the thread is Jesus' relationship to Horus, which is what is being addressed here..

My point is, youre disuputing the claims of the video with what seems to be "sceintific" eivdence of a god being born froma severed penis.

^There is no scientific evidence you buffoon, they simply got the myth wrong as it is written in the Egyptian texts. For some odd reason you fail to comprehend this. I need not provide no furthur proof that the video is falsified and littered with deception.

And youre not a religious histroian either, so whats YOUR point?

I don't have to be in order to use common sense and address the facts according to available research.

BTW, my major is psychology, whats yours?

Do you want to exchange phone numbers also?

When did this happen? I never claimed to know anything about ancient text, you seem to be the self proclaimed translator, so I guess the burden is on YOU, not me.

I don't self-proclaim anything, it's just overtly obvious that you're ignorant and have no argument..

Like I said, you believe myths, not me. Whos mind is being bent?

I don't believe anything besides the fact that you're ignorant.. This is an actual claim that I make, unlike what you attribute to me.

YOU have a nice day, becuase everyday is nice for me.

Ignorance is bliss so they say..

 

[ParkBoyz]

Who says I havent? I never said your myth was WRONG, i just pointed out the fact that its a MYTH, and thats enough for me to shove all validation OUT the window.

Who cares? Of course it is a myth, which is why atheists are so adamant in connecting it with Jesus in an attempt to expose his story as a myth. You obviously can't register the point.. You have exceedingly below average intelligence, I sincerely believe that. You need to stop now!

Just say the word, and ill dig the shit up...its nothin.

I really don't care what you do, it will only make you look worse in my eyes and expose you as an eccentric stalker creep whose exceedingly low IQ forces him to resort to biased selection of 2 year old comments that someone may or may not have made, that doesn't apply to the subject, when they're losing..

This coming from someone who worships a god, so of course you think its basless and ignorant.

^This is universally applied to all God-believers so I don't feel too bad if this is the case, yet I have much reason outside of that to label you as an ignoramus.

When did i say Horus was or was not a falcon? However, did he NOT have a falcon head?

Yes, and Heru means Falcon in Mdu Ntr(ancient Egyptian).. I thought that you were suggesting that he was a supreme sun God, and if not, it makes your previous comment that much more immaterial.

Im distracted? Yet, here you are backing claims of "myths"...talk about distracted.

Distraction once more. The fact that it's a myth is why people try and tag it to Jesus, I am merely of the position that the myth in which is reported in the video and source's list is not an Egyptian myth, but one of their own creation.

And when i said intelligent, i meant ACTS intelligent...my bad.

I don't think you're even capable of doing that..

Homie, I dont need any validation from you on my level of intelligence or anything below or beyond that...you know squat about me and I know squat about you..

If so, then stop attributing personality changes to me as if you know what's really going on, trying to assess my situation from a distance and through a computer. For this and other reasons I still believe that you have a mental defect.

.besides the way you present yourself on ths internet. For all I know, youre actually a chick who is really fat...what difference does it make?

None, so why be concerned? I've been addressing the actual topic from the gate, you're the one who goes off on a tangent and when I respond accordingly, you just cry about it. What a baby this kid is..

 

[ThaG]

Yes you fucking dumb ass, it would be about as impossible as a virgin birth, it's a fucking legend/myth! Hahahaha, some people are just so fucking simple-minded these days.


http://socsci.colorado.edu/LAB/GODS/osiris.html


^Anyways, moving on..

Seth took advantage of Isis's temporary absence on one occasion, cut the body to pieces, and cast them into the Nile. (In the Egyptian texts this incident alone accounts for the murder of Osiris.) Isis searched the land for the body parts of Osiris, and was eventually able to piece together his body, whole save for the penis, which had been swallowed by a crocodile (according to Plutarch) or a fish (according to Egyptian texts). In some Egyptian texts, the penis is buried at Memphis. Isis replaced the penis with a reasonable facsimile, and she was often portrayed in the form of a kite being impregnated by the ithyphallic corpse of Osiris.

OK, but how did she force the dead body to ejaculate????

Whatever long object she used as a substitute, it was not able to ejaculate for sure...

See, that's why all these stories are myths and nothing more - because the people who wrote them were so ignorant that they weren't able to even make them sound possible....

 

[ThaG]

Some people can't accept truth and reality

true, true

 

[ThaG]

Why would God impregnant Mary at her tender age of 14?

Is God a pedaphyl? (sp?)

That is the mystery of Christianity.

5000

LOL

Good point

 

[Y-S]

The truth is,

some people just fucking love to enjoy to bump their foreheads into the walls

I don't know why.

But anyway, your pm is full, Parkboyz.

 

[ParkBoyz]

OK, but how did she force the dead body to ejaculate????

Whatever long object she used as a substitute, it was not able to ejaculate for sure...

Who cares? It's a myth..

See, that's why all these stories are myths and nothing more

Who claimed that the story of Horus wasn't myth?

- because the people who wrote them were so ignorant that they weren't able to even make them sound possible....

Not as ignorant as you are for not understanding what poetry and prose is and consists of.. The incompetence coming from you is literally mind-boggling..

true, true

Cheers to that!

 

[ParkBoyz]

The truth is,

some people just fucking love to enjoy to bump their foreheads into the walls

I don't know why.

But anyway, your pm is full, Parkboyz.

Agreed! I don't know why either honestly.. I cleared my PM box btw..

 

[ThaG]

Who cares? It's a myth..

But Jesus, the Virgin Mary and the resurrection are not??

Although their reality is supported by exactly the same amount of evidence - zero

Who claimed that the story of Horus wasn't myth?

How are you so sure all such stories are myths but yours isn't??

Not as ignorant as you are for not understanding what poetry and prose is and consists of.. The incompetence coming from you is literally mind-boggling..

sigh...
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[ParkBoyz]

But Jesus, the Virgin Mary and the resurrection are not??

^I don't know, but it surely is immaterial to the fact that Jesus does not equal Horus, which is what has been addressed.

Although their reality is supported by exactly the same amount of evidence - zero

False! your ineducable nature restricts you from knowing the facts since Yeshua was attested as being an actual historical figure who made such astounding claims (true or not) by non-Christian writers, directly proceeding his death. The most notable is that of Flavius Josephus whose works have been largely preserved..

How are you so sure all such stories are myths but yours isn't??

I'm not Christian you degenerate monkey..

sigh...

Double sigh.. After all of the refutation provided I still only receive incoherent babble from uninformed, misguided rejects who don't know anything so they degrade themselves further by arguing with points that weren't made or relied on. Beyond pathetic, but a good way of preserving dignity I'd suppose.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Who cares? Of course it is a myth, which is why atheists are so adamant in connecting it with Jesus in an attempt to expose his story as a myth. You obviously can't register the point.. You have exceedingly below average intelligence, I sincerely believe that. You need to stop now!

I think YOU care, otherwise you wouldnt be knee deep in this thread.

I really don't care what you do, it will only make you look worse in my eyes and expose you as an eccentric stalker creep whose exceedingly low IQ forces him to resort to biased selection of 2 year old comments that someone may or may not have made, that doesn't apply to the subject, when they're losing..

Who cares about YOUR eyes? I just find it funny that you were super gangster "nigga" this and "nigga" that..now youre up in here like you know some shit...LOL! Thats funny to me.

^This is universally applied to all God-believers so I don't feel too bad if this is the case, yet I have much reason outside of that to label you as an ignoramus.

LOL! Wowzers...dont feel like i was singling you out, youngin.

Yes, and Heru means Falcon in Mdu Ntr(ancient Egyptian).. I thought that you were suggesting that he was a supreme sun God, and if not, it makes your previous comment that much more immaterial.

My point is that the Sun is the basis of life. With no sun, there would be no food. Therefore, the sun is much more worthy to worship than mythical characters that have no standing proof.

Distraction once more. The fact that it's a myth is why people try and tag it to Jesus, I am merely of the position that the myth in which is reported in the video and source's list is not an Egyptian myth, but one of their own creation.

So youre basically saying that the folks who made the video made that shit up out of thin air, correct?

I don't think you're even capable of doing that..

Never underestimate anyone, dookie.

If so, then stop attributing personality changes to me as if you know what's really going on, trying to assess my situation from a distance and through a computer. For this and other reasons I still believe that you have a mental defect.

Coo. I guess the tough guy gangster you first clamied to be was just afarce...nice to know you have to front on the internet, little guy.:ermm:

None, so why be concerned? I've been addressing the actual topic from the gate, you're the one who goes off on a tangent and when I respond accordingly, you just cry about it. What a baby this kid is..

I only think that your pompous attitude on this subject is worth pointing out. I mean, really, who the FUCK are you? Where is your PhD? Where is your papers sayin you know more than anyone on here than mere webpages and such? I can do a Google search on horus too...not that hard. I just find it funny when peoples own egos fuel conversations..."my dick is bigger than yours" just aint me, buddy...

The fact that you repeatedly refer to me as an inferior person intelligence wise, is a nod to your defensive mechanism...childish at best. If you feel that it helps you get to me, by all means, proceed. Personally, i think its as lame as callin someone a "fag" for no reason other than to throw a low blow and try to discredits ones character.

Good luck with that.

 

[ParkBoyz]

I think YOU care, otherwise you wouldnt be knee deep in this thread.

Who cares?

Who cares about YOUR eyes? I just find it funny that you were super gangster "nigga" this and "nigga" that..now youre up in here like you know some shit...LOL! Thats funny to me.

I guess... Not my fault that you'd like to impose and reinforce the stereotype of the "blackfaced" coon, yet are frustrated now because this is what you're not getting. What a sad day for white supremacy.

LOL! Wowzers...dont feel like i was singling you out, youngin.

^Which makes you slightly more ignorant in my eyes as you're generalizing 75% of the planet, based on nothing at all.. Doesn't matter anyways, you're see-through..

My point is that the Sun is the basis of life. With no sun, there would be no food. Therefore, the sun is much more worthy to worship than mythical characters that have no standing proof

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^You're such an idiot, why don't YOU worship the sun then, I choose not to.. You write some of the dumbest things..

So youre basically saying that the folks who made the video made that shit up out of thin air, correct?

^Not my job to answer that question, ask them why they are telling so many lies.. Hypocritical of you to question that since you're suggesting that the concept of God came out of thin air also..

I don't think you're even capable of doing that..

Never underestimate anyone, dookie.

Anyone except you and a moon rock..

Coo. I guess the tough guy gangster you first clamied to be was just afarce...nice to know you have to front on the internet, little guy.:ermm:

^So am I a gangster or a smart ass? Which one is the front? Both are compliments by siccness standards..

I only think that your pompous attitude on this subject is worth pointing out. I mean, really, who the FUCK are you? Where is your PhD? Where is your papers sayin you know more than anyone on here than mere webpages and such?

It's apparent that I know more than you, which is all that matters.

I can do a Google search on horus too...not that hard. I just find it funny when peoples own egos fuel conversations..."my dick is bigger than yours" just aint me, buddy...

The difference between you and I is that I've been familiar with Egyptian mythology for years now and actually went by the screen name of Horus on a few websites. Maybe it would have been in YOUR best interest to actually google it since even 5 seconds of research would have demolished every claim made by these lunatics.

The fact that you repeatedly refer to me as an inferior person intelligence wise,

Means that it must be worthy of notice since I have to put so much emphasis on this easily proven fact..

is a nod to your defensive mechanism...

More psycho-babble from the pseudo-psychologist, tell me more about myself, will you?

childish at best. If you feel that it helps you get to me, by all means, proceed. Personally, i think its as lame as callin someone a "fag" for no reason other than to throw a low blow and try to discredits ones character.

If I were to call you a fag, I'd have no basis for it and no evidence to back my claims and that is definitely not the case here..

Good luck with that.

Why, thank you!

 

[ThaG]

^I don't know, but it surely is immaterial to the fact that Jesus does not equal Horus, which is what has been addressed.

it isn't but let's move on

False! your ineducable nature restricts you from knowing the facts since Yeshua was attested as being an actual historical figure who made such astounding claims (true or not) by non-Christian writers, directly proceeding his death. The most notable is that of Flavius Josephus whose works have been largely preserved..

really??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#Testimonium_Flavianum

I'm not Christian you degenerate monkey..

then whatever the fuck you believe in is hardly supported by more evidence...

Double sigh.. After all of the refutation provided I still only receive incoherent babble from uninformed, misguided rejects who don't know anything so they degrade themselves further by arguing with points that weren't made or relied on. Beyond pathetic, but a good way of preserving dignity I'd suppose.

refutation, where?

It was already said - you have mastered from HERESY the art of denial and endless nonsensical babbling without ever saying anything, can't deny that

 

[ParkBoyz]

it isn't but let's move on

Move on to what? I'm not letting you guide me in your fucked up direction.

really??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#Testimonium_Flavianum

Yes, really..

then whatever the fuck you believe in is hardly supported by more evidence...

Even if I believed in evolution? Stupid weasel, how can you debunk what you have no idea about? Like in this case of Horus and Jesus also where you fail to provide any sound replies to my intervention, and instead depend on your inherent ability to maneuver around the initial point of contention since you have no answers, as usual.

refutation, where?

Bat..

Since this section is so much focused on religious debates and such, I thought I'd provide this and let you to discuss upon this. Enjoy.



http://atheistempire.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/the-cult-of-horus/

From what I've heard, this author claims that the story of Jesus was plagiarised from earlier Egyptian times - http://www.tomharpur.com/

Nonsense! I've addressed this already in part, in the Zeitgeist thread..

OMG, I watched the first 5 minutes of this video and given what I already know off the top of my head about Egypt, this video has to be pure crap, but I of course can't give a final assessment until I've viewed the entire thing, however, I will address a few claims made early in the video...

Basically, this distorts history in order for it to coincide with their preconceived thesis.

1. The deity of Horus is depicted in several ways, the Falcon being the most common(not the Sun, which was reserved for Amun_Ra), although he was revered as a Sun God, the video is misleading and selective in that this wasn't his primary form.. Actually, in Mdu Ntr (ancient Egyptian), Horus/Heru literally translates to "Falcon"..

2. Seth indeed was depicted as an evil, deceitful God, but never was he associated with "the night" or "the moon", nor did he battle Horus over supremacy of the sky(night and day), which is extremely misleading on their part and rather deceptive. Seth was most commonly associated with the red desert regions actually and was the brother of Osiris..


3. Horus was not the subject of a resurrection as is claimed falsely in the documentary, that honor goes to his father Osiris actually who was killed by Seth and resurrected by Isis, after being chopped up into countless pieces and put back together. Horus then proceeded to battle Seth to avenge his father and came out victorious.

4. All of that bullshit about him being referred to as the lamb of God, the good shepherd, etc, having 12 disciples, and his mother Isis having the surname or alternative name "Mary", is some of the most ridiculous shit that I've ever heard in my entire life, un-fucking-believable.


^I may comment more as I continue to watch the film I guess, but it should be apparent that this is pseudo-historical propaganda, and I say this with confidence even after only watching the first 5 minutes as the entire 5 minutes was total revisionist B.S... Anyone buying into this shit is either completely ignorant of ancient history or just biased and desperate..

^If you haven't studied the subject your self or haven't had an Egyptologist explain Egyptian myths and customs to you, I suggest you take bullshit like this with a grain of salt and if I had the time I'd go into great depth about how most of these claims are just hopelessly false, with the rest being selectively misguided.

More thorough assessment..

http://stupidevilbastard.com/index/seb/comments/ending_the_myth_of_horus/
Ending the Myth of Horus


I’ve heard repeated here several times that Horus, an Egyptian god, is carbon copy of Jesus. The obvious implication by those that have made this statement is that Jesus is a copycat version of an earlier Egyptian deity. The purpose of this entry is to disembowel that proposition once and for all.

When I first heard that Horus was the inspiration for Jesus several years ago, I didn’t give it much credence because I couldn’t establish any source material for the claims. I still can’t, but the internet is as adept at allowing anybody and everybody to pass on misinformation.

Upon further research, I’ve concluded that this theory originated with Gerald Massey, an English poet, born 1828, died 1927. He published primarily poems, but had an interest in Egypt. He parlayed that interest in Egypt into several books and lectures in which he set forth the proposition that Horus was in essence the first Jesus, and Jesus was a cheap imitation. The primary basis for his writing is the Egyptian Book of the Dead. This is available on-line and you can easily look it up to read it yourself. Be forewarned that forced reading of this would be an extremely efficient form of torture.

It should be noted that Massey’s actual proposition was that Jesus was a copycat from more than just Horus. According to Massey, Jesus was a compilation of an innumerable number of Egyptian deities. There were over 2,000 deities who had every human and godlike characteristic one can think of, excepting Superman’s power to stop a speeding bullet.

Since Massey, there is a dearth of anybody with any credentials that has adopted a straight Horus=Jesus theory. There is a one individual that has adopted some of Massey’s thoughts and incorporated them into a book-The Christ Conspiracy. This appears to be the basis for the claims that I see. The author is Acharya S. Her website is http://www.truthbeknown.com I note that Richard Price, a noted Christ Myther, and one that I take much more seriously then Acharya, said the following:

Those of use who uphold any version of the controversial Christ Myth theory find ourselves immediately the object not just of criticism, but even of ridicule. And it causes us chagrin to be lumped together with certain writers with whom we share the Christ Myth butt little else.....

His other criticism, like mine, is that she uses very dated sources (19th Century) who were in Price’s words “eccentrics, freethinkers, and theosophists.”

Les, I am using your post from 1/3/05 as an example of the claims because you carry more credibility than most. That said here are the claims and what I have found:

Claim #1-Horus and Jesus are born from a virgin.

Horus’s mother is Isis. Isis was married to Osiris. We do not know for what length of time, but presumably the marriage was consummated. Whether it was or wasn’t doesn’t matter though. After Osiris is killed, Isis puts him back together again (he was hacked into 14 pieces) except for his penis which was tossed in a river or a lake. Iris fashions a substitute penis for him, humps him and here comes Horus. There is nothing virginal about that.

Claim #2-Both Horus and Jesus were born to a Mary and Joseph. (Seb)

As noted Isis is Horus’s mother’s name not Mary. In addition, Seb is not Horus’s father, Osiris is. Seb is Osiris’s father. Further, Seb is a distinct name from Joseph. Putting them side by side does not make them synonyms, and that appears to be what was done here.

Claim #3-Both were born of royal descent.

This is accurate.

Claim #4-Both births were announced by angels and witnessed by shepherds.

I can find nothing that mentions that the birth of Horus was announced by an angel or witnessed by shepherds. I have found that Horus was born in a swamp, which is a pretty unlikely place for shepherds. In addition Acharya mentions that Horus was born in a cave. Massey makes no mention of this, although he does represent that Mithra was born in a cave.

Claim #5-Both were heralded by stars and angels.

There is no star that heralded Horus’s birth nor is there any angel announcing it. Archarya in a footnote in The Origins of Christianity indicates that that there are three stars named the three kings in Orion and then relates this to the birth of Jesus. When we look to the stories regarding Horus, we find no star or angel announcing his birth. To the extent that Acharya S relies upon Massey and Massey relies upon what is depicted in the panels at Luxor see (from an atheist) further regarding virgin birth and pronouncement by angels http://www.frontline-apologetics.com/carrier_luxor_inscription.htm

Claim #6-Both had later visitors (Horus-3 deities and Jesus-3 wisemen.)

There is no indication that there ever were 3 wisemen. The bible never mentions the number of wisemen, nor is there any document that reflects 3 deities at the birth of Horus. See the website referenced in Claim #5.

Claim #7-Both had murder plots against them.

There is mention that Seth did want to kill Horus, and Herod wanted to kill Jesus. so this is accurate.

Claim#8-Both came of age at 12, were baptized and their baptizers were executed.

There is no indication that Horus was preaching in a temple when he was 12. In fact, Massey indicates that Hours the child was depicted as a “weakling.” That doesn’t jive with story of Jesus preaching in the temple. Again this appears to have been a confabulation from Acharya and repeated by others.

Horus was never baptized in any of the Horus stories. In addition, Acharya mentions that John the Baptist is actually Anup the Baptizer. This individual is never mentioned anywhere in any Horus account. There is not even a footnote in Archaya’s on-line work The Origins of Christianity to support this. There is nothing.

Claim #9-Both had 12 disciples.

According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four semi-gods that were followers. There is some indication of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him. Horus did not have 12 disciples. Jesus reportedly did. Acharya failed to give a footnote to support this.

Massey points to a mural in the Book of Hades in which there are twelve reapers. Horus is not present in this scene. For Massey to make this connection he goes to a different scene within the same mural. In this scene there is a picture of a god whose name is the Master of Joy. Horus is never depicted although in other murals the artists do depict Horus. Had the artists ascribed 12 reapers in any relation to Horus all they had to do was put Horus at the scene. They did not.

Claim #10-Both walked on water.

Horus didn’t, or at least there is no record that I can find that he did. Massey does not maintain that Hours did. Massey uses wild conjecture to connect the story of fish man, Oannes, not Horus, to Jesus. Oannes came out of the sea during the day, and went back into the sea at night. Massey makes the two analogous because by his calculations, Jesus walked on water during the day.

As to Acharya, she as usual provides nothing to substantiate this.

Claim #11-Both performed miracles.

This is true although the miracles were different in scope and nature.

Claim #12 Both exorcised demons and raised Lazarus.

The actual claim is that Horus raised Osiris from the dead and that the name Osiris morphed to Lazarus. It doesn’t matter because Horus did not bring Osiris back to life. There is no mention of this in any document regarding the story. Horus did avenge Osiris’s death, but that did not raise Osiris from the dead.

Claim #13-Both held a Sermon on the Mount; both were transfigured on a mountain, died by crucifixion along with two thieves and were buried in tombs where they paid a quick visit to Hell and then rose from the dead after 3 days time, both resurrections were witness by women, and both will supposedly reign for 1,000 years in the Millennium.

These are the most damning claims if they were proven true in my opinion. Yet, I can locate none of this. No sermon, no transfiguration, certainly no crucifixion w/ two thieves, no trip to hell and no resurrection. There was an incident in which Horus was torn to pieces and Iris requested the crocodile god to fish him out of the water he was tossed into, which was done, but that’s it. I am at a loss to refute this because I can not find anything to support it.

Massey does compares a story about the Autumn Equinox related to Osiris, not Horus, as the symbolic crucifixion. There is no indication that Horus is involved in any way. There is no mention by Massey of any Sermon on the Mount. No mention or any actual crucifixion, no two thieves, no burial in a tomb. Massey does not maintain that anything of the sort occurred with Horus.

In short, of the claims outlined in this entry, I find the comparison between Horus and Jesus to consist of the following: they were of royal descent, they allegedly worked miracles and there were murder plots against them.

It was already said - you have mastered from HERESY the art of denial and endless nonsensical babbling without ever saying anything, can't deny that

^If you say so.. I mean, if that's all you got... Anyways, see above..

 

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or not bothering to waste his time with people who you can never convince anything

 

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or not bothering to waste ParkBoy'z time given my inferior knowledge pertaining to the subject at hand

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