cheap beat makin programs
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I didnt think it got any cheaper...Hmn O.k I got it
go buy two tape recorders, bang some pots pans and buckets and record in 1st tape. while playing that tape and using 2nd tape to record play some finger cymbals,triangle. get the picture you will have a multi-track home studio with out spending alot of money.
go buy two tape recorders, bang some pots pans and buckets and record in 1st tape. while playing that tape and using 2nd tape to record play some finger cymbals,triangle. get the picture you will have a multi-track home studio with out spending alot of money.
magix is cheap....but what do you think is cheap?To me those are cheap, I aint rich or nothin but I dont mind paying for quality,or something that I will get alot of use out of.You can get magix deluxe for about 80 dollars and it has alot of useful things...drum machines,synths,sequencer Its a descent all in one at the lower price levels.
yeah you definatly get WAY mor for your money when you get the full versians of any of these programs. I have Cubase SE and want SX3. I used logic express in school then they let us mess with Logic 7 and damn you can do so much with it. Pro Tools LE ain't nearly as powerful as a full blown TDM system, eventhough most who post in here including myself couldn't afford that shit anyways that shit is bad ass regardless. They cheap way is usually the worst way unless you know your shit and do your reaserch. You usually don't win with cheap software and recording equipment but you can get lucky with a cheap mic if you know whats what.
Nah, I don't think that's necessarily true. It's all a matter of personal preference and the type of environment you like to work in. Just because you use Cubase or ProTools is not going to instantly make you a better musician.
I personally think a lot of the so-called professional users of the more expensive programs like Cubase/ProTools are just jealous that they spend so much money and effort to learn the more "professional" programs and in the end they see their beats are coming out worse or just as good as the people that made beats in FL Studio or Reason.
what kind of professionals make beats with cubase/pro-tools? if they use these its usually to sequence some other instruments or software...ooops and mainly to record.Now neither software or hardware is gonna make you a better musician,but when you giving advice you should state some facts..not just general opinions.There are reasons why some professionals use profesional; gear as opposed to something like fruity loops,and Lets be 100% honest with each other...99% of fruity loops users are using it cause they cant afford anything else....No one goes to the guitar center and passes up all the expensive equipment with all the great features,and buy fruity loops to be limited...sure there are a few pros who use fruity loops.. thats cause when they started they coulnt afford anything else...these producers usually are the laffy taffy type producers....and to get that kind of sound fruity loops is perfect...Too many people associate software as the cheaper route to go....for the quality applications..its still costly.....Its funny cause back in the day someone would have to spend $3500 on a drum machine with like 2 seconds of sample time,and that usually seperated the producers who really were driven and passionate about makin beats...now with programs like fruity loops we got lazy producers who aint willing to program new original sounds in there synths,and we end up with un inspired laffy taffy.....
so in closing for arguements sake....provide info wich makes you beleive what you you do..also fruity loops may be just right for some...but on a professional level...it may be limited....people spend alot of money on equipment cause so and so says its all you need,then they buy it and its unable to do the functions they need
so in closing for arguements sake....provide info wich makes you beleive what you you do..also fruity loops may be just right for some...but on a professional level...it may be limited....people spend alot of money on equipment cause so and so says its all you need,then they buy it and its unable to do the functions they need
1. Can someone define what "professional level" is?
2. I know a lot of people who are "professional" who actually use pro tools or cubase to make the beat/song. Why do you think Digidesign came up with their own instruments and added instrument tracks to pt7? So people could have an easier time using pt to actually make beats.
2. I know a lot of people who are "professional" who actually use pro tools or cubase to make the beat/song. Why do you think Digidesign came up with their own instruments and added instrument tracks to pt7? So people could have an easier time using pt to actually make beats.
..Right..what i was saying is..for example BOSKO (last I heard) uses logic to make beats...of course he has soft synths etc.....I was trying to correct that cubase and such are standalone beatmakin machines
as far as profesional producers.I shouldve said beatmakers..who sell beats for a living
Most the people I either know personally,or know of who make beats professionally use hardware sequencing whether it be ASR10,SP1200,MPC3000-4000...some also use computer for extra sounds....is one greater then the other....that can be argued ..each one has certain characteristics that some swear by...me personally I like to twist knobs in real time,and certain functions on a computer,you need a mouse,and have to type in # values..like transposing(unless things have changed) I can only judge computer programs that I have messed with and being technology is forever changing...my experiences with computers may need an update....I bought fruity loops (full version) when I had My mpc3000 at bruce forats(customizes mpc/repairs) I didnt like it at all..I threw it in the trash...If I ever went full computer...I would pick something like logic or(I have Nuendo Now) and use the sequencer and use some great vsts....I would never entertain the thoughts of fruity loops.Reason is cool..aint for me but at least it seems pretty flexible.
as far as profesional producers.I shouldve said beatmakers..who sell beats for a living
Most the people I either know personally,or know of who make beats professionally use hardware sequencing whether it be ASR10,SP1200,MPC3000-4000...some also use computer for extra sounds....is one greater then the other....that can be argued ..each one has certain characteristics that some swear by...me personally I like to twist knobs in real time,and certain functions on a computer,you need a mouse,and have to type in # values..like transposing(unless things have changed) I can only judge computer programs that I have messed with and being technology is forever changing...my experiences with computers may need an update....I bought fruity loops (full version) when I had My mpc3000 at bruce forats(customizes mpc/repairs) I didnt like it at all..I threw it in the trash...If I ever went full computer...I would pick something like logic or(I have Nuendo Now) and use the sequencer and use some great vsts....I would never entertain the thoughts of fruity loops.Reason is cool..aint for me but at least it seems pretty flexible.
Like I said it's all a matter of personal preference and the type of environment you like to work in.
There's absolutely NO difference in loading a drumloop or singleshot drum sample in Fruity Loops, Reason, Cubase, Pro-Tools, Nuendo, Logic,... or in Hardware. Reason being is because that drumloop or singleshot drum sample you used is EXACTLY the same in whatever program or hardware you use it in!!!! So tell me, WTF is the difference? The same thing can be said about recording a MIDI part while using VSTi Synthesizer instruments. No matter what, it's going to come out the same in whatever VST host program you decide to record it in. That's the point I'm trying to make. Only thing I can see that's probably more better in the more expensive programs is their ability to record & track vocals. But as far as making just the beat itself, I don't see why you can't come out with the same exact results whether you made the beat in FL, Cubase, Pro-Tools,etc... If you use the same exact sounds, it sould come out the same in whatever program you decide to use.
Only difference I see between beatmakers is their ability to MASTER.
And as far as that LaffyTaffy $hit, that's bull$hit dog, not everyone makes silly $hit like that with Fruity Loops. And as far as Reason being more flexible than FL, I don't know about that one. Reason doesn't even support plugins.
There's absolutely NO difference in loading a drumloop or singleshot drum sample in Fruity Loops, Reason, Cubase, Pro-Tools, Nuendo, Logic,... or in Hardware. Reason being is because that drumloop or singleshot drum sample you used is EXACTLY the same in whatever program or hardware you use it in!!!! So tell me, WTF is the difference? The same thing can be said about recording a MIDI part while using VSTi Synthesizer instruments. No matter what, it's going to come out the same in whatever VST host program you decide to record it in. That's the point I'm trying to make. Only thing I can see that's probably more better in the more expensive programs is their ability to record & track vocals. But as far as making just the beat itself, I don't see why you can't come out with the same exact results whether you made the beat in FL, Cubase, Pro-Tools,etc... If you use the same exact sounds, it sould come out the same in whatever program you decide to use.
Only difference I see between beatmakers is their ability to MASTER.
And as far as that LaffyTaffy $hit, that's bull$hit dog, not everyone makes silly $hit like that with Fruity Loops. And as far as Reason being more flexible than FL, I don't know about that one. Reason doesn't even support plugins.
Just because it doesn't support plugins does not make FL more flexable than reason, fact is you can make tighter shit right out of the box in reason than you can with frooty loops not just because it has better sounds but its effects and sound engine is better. Reasons whole thing is that their virtual racks are so solid that you don't need VST support, that is a half truth because there are some super sick virtual synths out there like the indigo that definatly have it going on but for the price the shit in reason can't be beat.