Hemp said:
ok first of all, once again, scripture doesnt count when nothing else supports the view.
moron.
So what else do I go on, the only books I am well aware of that Jesus is mentioned is the Koran and the Bible.
and like you said, it IS as close as sayin mo is god, only the difference is nobody says hes God.
You don't even have a religion, so I wonder to myself, are you worth the time arguing when it comes to religion?
oh? the torah?
well please show me what he fullfilled pretaining to the torah
Fulfilled, I could have went on and on and on, but I'd be wasting my time with a universalist, I guess. So there.
hey im just wondering something, since you agreed that miracles occur in every religion, then what makes your religion anymore valid ?
Tradition, my own reasoning for my Belief in Christ, Religious Experiences. For example during the Time of Moses and the Bondage of the Hebrews, there was also a Pharaoh name Ikhnaton. Roughly around 1380 BC or BCE, and Moses and the Exodus took place around 1300-1310 BC or BCE. Ikhnaton was the only Pharaoh that believed in a Mono-theistic god. All pharaohs prior or after him believed in many gods, polytheism.
I made a quick observation and I noticed how close the time frame was with the exodus and the Existence and notion of Ikhnaton that there was one god. Though he named the god to his likeness, it seems at the time some form of henoism. A form of supreme showmanship between your god and My God. In my opinion, he saw how Moses' People were able to escape the Mighty egypt, even defeating the Egyptian gods, wit the God of Moses Yahweh. So it strikes me, why would this man conform to mono-theism during or near the time of Moses.
My reasoning would be that he saw how Moses was able to flee Egypt, how the plagues ravaged his land, and how a battle between gods and GOD inspired him to conform to mono-theism. But that doesn't necessarily mean, Moses inspired him, or that YHWH, but that's my reasoning.
Now if you want to go with the Story of Gilgamesh, a Babylonian version of Noah, and if you remember a time in Jewish History known as the Babylonian Captivity. Which I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, around 1700 BC or BCE. The Story of Gilgamesh was roughly 400 years before this captivity or bondage of the Jews by the Babylonians. If you're a Jew, you knew the Story of Noah, and his boat. Babylonian's were notorious polytheist, and I believed the Story of Gilgamesh was a twisted version of the Noah Story. It would only make sense, that they would take the Story of the Jews, and make it into their own likeness. Just like how Muslims make Jesus into their own likeness so that in no way, it seems Christianity is Right.
Then I use the process of similarity and elimination. Messianics/Christians believe Jesus is a Prophet Deuteronomy 18:18, so do the Muslims. The Messianics/Christians, believe Jesus is Messiah, so do the Muslims. They also both believe he was born a virgin birth, am I correct? That he would also one day come and rule and judge the people of this earth, do I stand correct? So then, if we Christians/Messianics are considered people of the Islamic Book, why are we included in the Koran, and not the Other way around? I also took notice that, not only did Ikhnaton and the Babylonians take Jewish stories and biblical implications, and twist them to their likeness. So did Islam. By saying, the Koran is the Tanakh or Torah revised, seems like a twisting to their likeness. So Hemp let me ask you, why shouldn't I believe my religion is the ONE TRUE RELIGION, when all these implications seem to lead to believe that my religion exists before many of these religions, and the stories might have possibly been twisted?
