thascary1 said:
I guess Peyton Manning sucks too then huh?Eli?McNair?2 ever in the history of the game huh....wow...
Mcnairs rookie #'s 1995 Houston Oilers 4 2 80 41 51.3 569 7.11 53 3 1 6/63 8 2 81.7
Still not bad for a rookie...wouldnt you say?
p Manning 1998 Indianapolis Colts
Record: 3 - 13 - 0 Had decent #'s but more int's then td's and look at all those wins
Still...that doesnt SUCK...it takes more than a QB to be a good team....isnt that what you are gettin at down below?Sorry,,,im gettin ahead of myself....
e manning 2004 New York Giants 9 7 197 95 48.2 1043 5.29 52 6 9 13/83 11 4 55.4
Not bad...better record than his brother...
Well since I was soooo wrong I googles some stats for you off the the great rookie seasons of player you mentioned, and look it...mcnair was benched most the year, eli was benched half the year, manning lead the team to an awesome 3-13 record.
Of course...ALL these players..played for HORRIBLE teams....it takes more than a year to rebuild a whole TEAM....
AGAIN...ROOKIE QB'S ARE SHIT!
If you put them on shitty teams....then yes....
So you are glad that "experts" agree with you?
I said its "nice"...who said "happy"?
Hell most of us fans know more than the experts
Do you have something to back this claim up?Im not agreeing or disagreein with you....i just wanna see some proof...
all they do is get paid because of who they are not what they know.
Again...proof?
And I do know that Cutler would have got killed behind that line, Plummer had 2 seconds to throw, NOONE would have did anything behind that line Sunday.
No...you DONT know...cus he didnt play...therefore...its SPECULATION...
[quote\]WTF does they have to with anything?Did you ever see Ryan Leaf in college?He was overrated to begin with...and he sucked in the NFL...ithad nothing to do with his OL....cut the crap...
that show you that rookies who get throwin into the mix when not ready to not fair well in the NFL![/quote]
No...that shows you that not every QB drafted is an NFL quarterback...cmon now...i know youre smarter than that....
Right now all we know of Cutler is he looked good in Camp and he looked good against 3rd stringers in preseason...remind what he did in college????oh yeah nothing.
Vanderbilt was one win away from contending for a bowl game....they beat their rival Tennessee for the first time since 1982...a year before Cutler was born....they lost at the last second to a Gators by a TD...
Commodores also scored the second most points ever scored against the University of Florida football team at their current home field at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. They nearly upset the 13th-ranked Gators before falling 49-42 in second overtime.
But it wasnt likehe was a first round draft pick or anything....right?
He needs timt to learn the system and get knowledge of the NFL game which is totally different than the College game.
And how od you know he doesnt right now?Obviously it can be done if Marino and Ben did it...right?Ok then.
Another thing you said
Im not talkin about the team...im talkin about the QB...
well the team lead to what Plummer did
What?
...The o-line gave him no time...
On every single snap huh?Are yousure you arent mistaking youre game for the Raiders/Bolts game?
tatum bell fumbled stopping a drive,
Ok..
mike bell couldn't pick up a blitz to buy plummer time,
Ok...
Javon dropped at least 3 balls 1 for td 2 for first downs,
Ill give you that...
rod smith dropped a first down pass,
Ok...
scheffler dropped a sure first down possible td pass,
Ok..
and special teams roughed the kicker when we would have had the ball on our own side of field to start the drive
Ok...
....but yes it was just the QB...
Im glad youre startin to see that...
get fuckin real, it sounds like you didn't even watch the game.
Funny youshould say that...cus i DID watch the game...Plummer had some arrid throws...i only saw maybe 3 passes that were legitimately dropped by the receivers...2 by Javon...
All the above which was THE TEAM not the qb contributed to what Jake did.
I half agree...but Jake aint good...never has been...hes DESCENT....but he aint gonna win you a championship....he makes alot of big mistakes when he needs to come through....come on bro...Jake is NOT clutch....
Point is...Jake will be replaced sometime this year....i dont care if you believe me or not...just wait..youll see...